Hello and thanks for the replys, I had checked out the stevespages.com before but the data that he has is the same data that the Hornady reloading book (3rd edition I believe) has that I have and they state that you should not use it for a 1889 model rifle. I will have to look into the other sites that you have posted.
Thanks again.
Don Wood
Absolutely Don! The data I saw on steves pages was for the Model 11 cartridge...I would check in with the Swiss Collector's site and ask. Good Luck!
savageT