Author Topic: NRA files bankruptcy (Read 2107 times)

northwoodneil · « **on:** January 15, 2021, 12:19:32 PM »

They are moving to the lone star state. Hopefully without their current leadership.

orerancher · « **Reply #1 on:** January 15, 2021, 01:06:43 PM »

Might as well Disband...They have no Power anymore...

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 15, 2021, 01:11:36 PM »

Unless they fire all of the leadership they are dead to me.

Dee · « **Reply #3 on:** January 15, 2021, 04:02:57 PM »

I quit that bunch years ago.

Davyboy · « **Reply #4 on:** January 15, 2021, 04:42:29 PM »

The NRA has been a big part of your gun rights for a long time. That they are a lightning rod is no contest. Much like McConnell and Pelosi, their influence in DC is debatable, as they were the only game in town until a couple dozen years ago. It may take awhile before anybody can fill their shoes. GOA and others just don’t have the membership numbers.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #5 on:** January 15, 2021, 10:13:49 PM »

heres my take on it. There not dying. there just moving to TX and if i was from TX id be awful proud that they choose my state. Nra might not be perfect. Heck which corporation do you know that is?? Theres even corruption in churches. Right now there HANDS DOWN the most powerful voice protecting the 2nd amendment. I chuckle at guys that have 10 or more guns but are to tight to give a buck a month to the NRA to stand up to the liberals. Basically your giving up a candy bar a month. RIGHT NOW TODAY theres NEVER been more good reason to run to them then run away. We have radicals like cortex, pelosi, shummer, shiff, harris and biden that ARE coming for our guns. Some of you will say that you donate to X organization instead. Well your wasting your money because for the most part there flees the democrats slap away. The NRA scares them. Also with all this talk of corruption have you ever considered that most of it comes from the left. Just more fake news and there proven way of dealing with organizations they fear. Put out a mass misinformation campaign and make them out to be something there not. Dont buy into that bull crap. If you do dont cry to me when they come for your guns AND THEY WILL! A buck a (censored word) month!!!! Even if they just scared them and did nothing else its money well spent in my book.

Land_Owner · « **Reply #6 on:** January 15, 2021, 11:36:22 PM »

Like so many arm chair quarterbacks that talk a big game and then let others do their heavy lifting. Put your money where your mouth is. You want change, you have to PARTICIPATE to VOTE in NRA elections. Don't like one guy and you let that stop you? Go ahead, bury your heads in the sand. Your non-participation keeps adding to the "same old same old".

[SARCASM=ON] This will all just blow over. Nancy, Chuck, and Joe are OK. Clowns, Unicorns, and balloons for all. The Dems have the country's best interest at heart. Let's cozy up and let them run things. We can keep our guns if we want. The 2nd Amendment is secure. Nothing is going to change. [SARCASM=OFF]

My support, and my vote, go with Life Membership in the NRA. I take the good with the bad and make the attempt to change through one vote collectively with the thousands of others that vote. It is the way it is because the majority (and quitters) say so. Your non-participation is continuing the status quo. Participate and stuff the ballot box for a change.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #7 on:** January 16, 2021, 12:21:18 AM »

well said!!

Quote from: Land_Owner on January 15, 2021, 11:36:22 PM

Like so many arm chair quarterbacks that talk a big game and then let others do their heavy lifting. Put your money where your mouth is. You want change, you have to PARTICIPATE to VOTE in NRA elections. Don't like one guy and you let that stop you? Go ahead, bury your heads in the sand. Your non-participation keeps adding to the "same old same old".

[SARCASM=ON] This will all just blow over. Nancy, Chuck, and Joe are OK. Clowns, Unicorns, and balloons for all. The Dems have the country's best interest at heart. Let's cozy up and let them run things. We can keep our guns if we want. The 2nd Amendment is secure. Nothing is going to change. [SARCASM=OFF]

My support, and my vote, go with Life Membership in the NRA. I take the good with the bad and make the attempt to change through one vote collectively with the thousands of others that vote. It is the way it is because the majority (and quitters) say so. Your non-participation is continuing the status quo. Participate and stuff the ballot box for a change.

pastorp · « **Reply #8 on:** January 16, 2021, 02:38:44 AM »

I put my money where my mouth was years ago a bought a life membership too.

You can’t vote if your a annual member only. Go ahead and up to life, then vote your conscious. But your throwing away your money on all the nickel and dime upstarts trying to get your membership money. By the time they get a big enough voice the USA will be a socialist country or worse.

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 16, 2021, 04:04:56 AM »

I always gave money to the NRA until Chris Cox came out and publicly supported red flag laws and the NRA publicly supported banning bump stocks. The NRA can go crap in their hat.

Negotiating
Rights
Away

I joined the GOA instead, they've been doing the heavy lifting lately while Wayne Lapierre has been living the jet set life in his silk suits.

Argent 88 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 16, 2021, 04:13:33 AM »

Biden thinks he can water down the 2nd amendment by using executive orders. And with our upcoming liberal congress he might just get away with it.

wtxbadger · « **Reply #11 on:** January 16, 2021, 04:53:11 AM »

The current leadership needs replacing for sure but that being said the NRA is welcome to come on down to the Lone Star State.

oldandslow · « **Reply #12 on:** January 16, 2021, 05:02:39 AM »

Support whatever organization you wish, it's your money. Just make sure how effective they are or you will be throwing your money away. The NRA is the ONE gun rights organization that politicians pay ANY attention to. The others are just paper tigers and are only feared as such.

As to voting, if you are an annual member you can do so after a certain number of years as a member. I don't remember the exact number of years it requires.

Don't use the mailings and phone calls as an excuse either. That's on you as all it takes is an email or a phone call and they stop.

nw_hunter · « **Reply #13 on:** January 18, 2021, 06:07:47 AM »

Quote from: oldandslow on January 16, 2021, 05:02:39 AM

Support whatever organization you wish, it's your money. Just make sure how effective they are or you will be throwing your money away. The NRA is the ONE gun rights organization that politicians pay ANY attention to. The others are just paper tigers and are only feared as such.

Simply not true!There are other Gun rights organizations that work hard in DC for your right to keep and bear arms. The GOA for one has made a big impact.

The NRA has been buying into gun control for a long time. Just a little research will show it. Here are some examples.

In the 1920s and 1930s, NRA leaders lobbied states to enact stronger gun legislation, ushering in a number of influential laws: the Uniform Firearms Act of 1934, which banned anyone without a proper permit from carrying a concealed gun in public; the Federal Firearms Act of 1938; and the Gun Control Act of 1968.

Decades later, the NRA also supported a number of restrictive federal gun laws. In 1963, Lee Harvey Oswald bought the rifle used to assassinate President John F. Kennedy from a mail order ad in an NRA magazine. The NRA's executive vice president at the time, Franklin Orth, testified to Congress in favor of banning mail-order rifle sales, and gave measured support to the Gun Control Act of 1968.

In the 1960s, the NRA endorsed a proposed federal law that would have required a seven-day waiting period to enable background checks on handgun purchases. An NRA pamphlet from the 1970s noted that “a waiting period could help in reducing crimes of passion [by] preventing people with criminal records or dangerous mental illness from acquiring guns.”

There are other anti second amendment calls by the NRA over the years. Support them if you wish, I chose not too after I became more informed about them. There are some no compromise gun rights Orgs. The NRA isn't one of them.

Land_Owner · « **Reply #14 on:** January 18, 2021, 07:41:03 AM »

Those of you that jumped ship from the NRA now sit in the Monday Morning Quarterback chair, with no skin in the game (i.e. no vote), slinging dirt trying to tell everyone how bad the NRA was when you quit.

PUT UP or SHUT UP. Your continued disconnectivity and apathy in doing something about it speaks volumes...

oldandslow · « **Reply #15 on:** January 18, 2021, 08:11:50 AM »

(The GOA for one has made a big impact)

Then why why do we see the NRA vilified in the news and never see anything about GOA? Because they don't manage to accomplish enough to scare the anti-gunners? Jst asking.

I'm with Land_Owner.

orerancher · « **Reply #16 on:** January 18, 2021, 08:20:41 AM »

The NRA's Power has always been that They Represented a very large Voting Block....The DNC does not Fear That any longer....They can Rig any Election at Will Now...

Been a Life Member 40+years,

Last Few Years, In My Eyes, The NRA has been lookin alot like It did just Prior to Cincinnati...

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 18, 2021, 10:10:42 AM »

Quote from: nw_hunter on January 18, 2021, 06:07:47 AM

Quote from: oldandslow on January 16, 2021, 05:02:39 AM
Support whatever organization you wish, it's your money. Just make sure how effective they are or you will be throwing your money away. The NRA is the ONE gun rights organization that politicians pay ANY attention to. The others are just paper tigers and are only feared as such.

Simply not true!There are other Gun rights organizations that work hard in DC for your right to keep and bear arms. The GOA for one has made a big impact.

The NRA has been buying into gun control for a long time. Just a little research will show it. Here are some examples.

In the 1920s and 1930s, NRA leaders lobbied states to enact stronger gun legislation, ushering in a number of influential laws: the Uniform Firearms Act of 1934, which banned anyone without a proper permit from carrying a concealed gun in public; the Federal Firearms Act of 1938; and the Gun Control Act of 1968.

Decades later, the NRA also supported a number of restrictive federal gun laws. In 1963, Lee Harvey Oswald bought the rifle used to assassinate President John F. Kennedy from a mail order ad in an NRA magazine. The NRA's executive vice president at the time, Franklin Orth, testified to Congress in favor of banning mail-order rifle sales, and gave measured support to the Gun Control Act of 1968.

In the 1960s, the NRA endorsed a proposed federal law that would have required a seven-day waiting period to enable background checks on handgun purchases. An NRA pamphlet from the 1970s noted that “a waiting period could help in reducing crimes of passion [by] preventing people with criminal records or dangerous mental illness from acquiring guns.”

There are other anti second amendment calls by the NRA over the years. Support them if you wish, I chose not too after I became more informed about them. There are some no compromise gun rights Orgs. The NRA isn't one of them.

The NRA supported the NICS as well, a mandatory background check to exercise a right already guaranteed to you.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #18 on:** January 18, 2021, 10:03:47 PM »

Ill give that one a HUGE AMEN!! There not willing to crack open there wallets and sure arent willing to actually fight. If it cant be done hiding behind a computer bitching or done by someone else then there out. They just want to stir up others to do the real fighting and let us pay there part in protecting our second amendment rights. Comical thing is they will probably be the first ones posting here crying because they came for there guns. No doubt again CLAIMING there actually going to do something about it. At least a few of them donate to the ineffective groups. I guess thats better then nothing. But i say even if you do do that another 10 bucks a month sure isnt going to break you.

Bottom line is without the NRA we wouldnt have survived the 16 years of clinton and oboma and without them we probably wont survive the new even farther left administration today. Its a very sad day to me when the democrats are elected as president. control the house and senate, and the NRA is filing bankruptcy!! Let that sink in a bit. What hope does that leave us that the second amemendement would be near abolished in the next 4 years. Biden and the rest of the liberals are celebrating. the brainwashed people into believing the nra was corrupt and even those on here that try to come off as intellegent and KNOW the way the democratic spin doctors warp the truth bought into it like zoombies. The democrats even made it impossible for them to operate at there headquarters in VA so they have to move to texas. It is sad to me the liberals got away with this trash. Its discusting to me that gun owning conservatives bought into there bs. Keep your 10 bucks a month. Save it up for a year and buy yourself a good knife or a baseball bat. YOUR GOING TO NEED IT.

Quote from: Land_Owner on January 18, 2021, 07:41:03 AM

Those of you that jumped ship from the NRA now sit in the Monday Morning Quarterback chair, with no skin in the game (i.e. no vote), slinging dirt trying to tell everyone how bad the NRA was when you quit.

PUT UP or SHUT UP. Your continued disconnectivity and apathy in doing something about it speaks volumes...

Dee · « **Reply #19 on:** January 19, 2021, 02:49:26 AM »

I dropped my membership from the NRA years ago for various, an obvious instances of mismanagement, kowtowing to those in wanting gun control.
When, and if, they get their britches on straight, and fire that overpaid, lightning rod peacock, Wayne LaPierre I might consider getting back in.

As for the sarcasm, and slamming, and disparaging remarks you self-righteous, all knowing "monday morning quarterbacks" made about us that dropped out that feed that money pit called "the NRA " you afore poster slammers on this thread?
RIGHT BACK AT YA, IN SPADES for being dumb enough to feed do nuthin hucksters.

I follow my own common sense, not somebodys BS has been pipedream.
Your blind willingness to financially support political losers, speaks volumes.

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 19, 2021, 03:08:35 PM »

Quote from: Dee on January 19, 2021, 02:49:26 AM

I dropped my membership from the NRA years ago for various, an obvious instances of mismanagement, kowtowing to those in wanting gun control.
When, and if, they get their britches on straight, and fire that overpaid, lightning rod peacock, Wayne LaPierre I might consider getting back in.

As for the sarcasm, and slamming, and disparaging remarks you self-righteous, all knowing "monday morning quarterbacks" made about us that dropped out that feed that money pit called "the NRA " you afore poster slammers on this thread?
RIGHT BACK AT YA, IN SPADES for being dumb enough to feed do nuthin hucksters.

I follow my own common sense, not somebodys BS has been pipedream.
Your blind willingness to financially support political losers, speaks volumes.

Well said. I guess some people think they're better than others because they buy silk suits for Wayne LaPierre.

Dee · « **Reply #21 on:** January 19, 2021, 04:05:29 PM »

Exactly! The NRA is bankrupt because as a business, they they have made LOTS of bad decisions, on things like endless mailouts of repetitive information, a magazine that is in my opinion WORTHLESS.
Kowtowing to gun regulations without a fight. Exorbitant salaries, vacations, and on and on, and on.

An example is Wayne LaPierres net worth of 10+ million dollars.

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 20, 2021, 03:09:06 AM »

If you take Wayne's $10,000,000 net worth and divide it by the $35 NRA membership fee it comes out to 285,714 suckers I mean members just to pay for Wayne alone. I include myself in that list of suckers because I was a member up until 2019. Never again. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Dee · « **Reply #23 on:** January 20, 2021, 03:21:16 AM »

Well, the 10+ million dollar net worth is beyond his "cost of living expenses" lavish vacations, expensive clothes, homes, etc.
The millions hes spent, I'm sure is many times more than his accumulated wealth.
He's "a snow job extraordinaire" and members are still being snowed, snookered, and exploited, by a dog that hasn't hunted in years.

Argent 88 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 20, 2021, 03:43:55 AM »

Gone are the days of Charlton Heston.

nw_hunter · « **Reply #25 on:** January 20, 2021, 04:00:07 AM »

Lloyd Smale said:

Ill give that one a HUGE AMEN!! There not willing to crack open there wallets and sure arent willing to actually fight. If it cant be done hiding behind a computer bitching or done by someone else then there out. They just want to stir up others to do the real fighting and let us pay there part in protecting our second amendment rights. Comical thing is they will probably be the first ones posting here crying because they came for there guns. No doubt again CLAIMING there actually going to do something about it. At least a few of them donate to the ineffective groups. I guess thats better then nothing. But i say even if you do do that another 10 bucks a month sure isnt going to break you.

It's not about 10.00, or any other measly sum Lloyd. It's about contributing to an organization that lies to it's supporters. The NRA has been doing it for years.I'm disappointed in you and Land Owner for dissing your fellow members here on GBO reloaded, for having a different opinion.Including the people who started this great forum .Are you saying they have done nothing about the right to keep and bear arms? Is what they have contributed equal to 10 measly bucks? You don't have a clue about others involvement with the battle to save the second amendment.

Graybeard · « **Reply #26 on:** January 20, 2021, 05:30:54 AM »

I'm a LONG TIME life member of the NRA. It was so long ago the cost back then was only $150. I've given my share to them over the years.

But the NRA is NOT a friend to gun owner's even if you believe they are. They have supported every single major gun bill passed since the first in 1934.

The info is out there for those who wish to look for it.

GOA has done ten times more than the NRA to actually help gun owners. GOA starts the lawsuits to help and then the NRA jumps in at last minute and tries to take credit for the good done by GOA.

At such time as LaPierre is fired I'll consider again donating money, until then they'll not get one dime of money or one single good word from me. They've been morally bankrupt for many years, now thanks to LaPierre they are financially bankrupt also. The only way they avoided it a few short years ago was to sell premium memberships dirt cheap to get money knowing that long term it was a money losing proposition.

northwoodneil · « **Reply #27 on:** January 20, 2021, 11:30:50 AM »

NWHunter is right. A lot of people support the 2nd in different ways. I taught hunters safety, 4-H shooting sports and youth trap for many years. Bringing in the next generation of firearm owners. I've been in the NRA but now feel they lack the balls to fight. GOA is the next NRA.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #28 on:** January 20, 2021, 11:08:07 PM »

yahoo news this morning said Harris first goal in office is to Ban assult rifles, make all dealers do mandatory back ground checks on all gun purchases. End castle doctrine laws cause were shooting to many blacks that are breaking into our homes and GOING AFTER THE NRA. Funny, none of those other organizations were even mentioned. They know if they take down the NRA those others will be about like george foreman in his day going up against a 10 year old. Heck it looks like half there battle with the NRA is in the bag already. SO MANY AVID gun owners on a conservatives forum like this are ready to throw the most powerful gun lobbying organization in front of harris to stomp into the ground. Right along with our gun rights.

Sure hope you bullet casters like to fish because unless you step up now your going to be casting fishing sinkers in a couple years. That is if those socialist dont catch on and ban LEAD too. You know the neighbor 2 miles down the road might breath in those fumes!! What did Jesus say with his last breath?? YOU KNOW NOT WHAT YOU DO! So many republicans sold out trump and sided with the liberals in the biggest fight for America since the civil war. Now there siding with the liberals to take down the most powerful voice for the second amendment in the country. It is right up there with if NC an VA and AL would have bowed out of the civil war because lee was paid to much to lead the army. Now think back on that war. What would have happened if FL and TX would have gone in full force with the same effort the other southern states did? THIS is our war.

The deck is stacked against us. Time to lead follow or get out of the way. Either your with us or you share the blame when it goes down and it will unless ALL gun owners stand as one. Until something else comes along the NRA is hands down our best play right now to unite behind. Even if we all donated to the noa today. It would take them a year of shuffling papers and buying favors ect to even be a pimple on the but of the NRA. Its exactly why harris didnt even mention or probably never has mentioned the NOA. So swallow your pride and join NOW. If in 4 years this country comes back to us and the NRA hasnt gotten any better quit donating but RIGHT NOW TODAY is no time for a couple weak little organizations to do the fighting. Its time for the heavyweight. Truth be told if Wayne can hold off those liberals and i can keep my guns i dont care if they double his salary again!!

Bob Riebe · « **Reply #29 on:** January 21, 2021, 01:54:40 PM »

Quote from: northwoodneil on January 20, 2021, 11:30:50 AM

NWHunter is right. A lot of people support the 2nd in different ways. I taught hunters safety, 4-H shooting sports and youth trap for many years. Bringing in the next generation of firearm owners. I've been in the NRA but now feel they lack the balls to fight. GOA is the next NRA.

I am a life member of both but got strongly turned off by GOA when one of the regular flyers I got from them did nothing but attack the NRA.
That is cutting off your nose to spite your face.