Vaccine update

[Buckskin]

https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/doctors-around-the-world-issue-dire-warning-do-not-get-the-covid-vaccine/

[DDZ]

https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/doctors-around-the-world-issue-dire-warning-do-not-get-the-covid-vaccine/

There are those that will just call this conspiracy.  Its amazing how none of the media are reporting these people dying after getting the vaccine.  When Hank Aaron died, they reported he just died of natural causes.  To much of a coincidence that he kills over shortly after he gets the vaccine.  What do the vaccine companies care? They can't be sued even if everyone that gets it ends up dying. 

[Argent 88]

Gates was one of those who wanted our elderly to die. So was governor Como. China just lets them die by not trying to save them. Human life has gotten so unimportant to these types.

[Goldie]

https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/doctors-around-the-world-issue-dire-warning-do-not-get-the-covid-vaccine/

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^^^^^ Yes...yes....and YES!

After all the fake news, fake election, fake journalists,  fake courts, fake science, fake plandemic, fake C-19 stats,  fake impeachments, fske false flags, fake liberalism, fake everything.....people would still think about taking an experimental mRNA jab endorsed by megalomaniacs population eugenicists fake Dr. Fauci and fake genius Gates?
Boggles the mind....!

Here' Dr. Sheri Tenpenny, Doctors for Truth, explaining why you to think in this day and age:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ojm3dd013q4f/

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Dr. Tenpenny explains the kill jab
Her opinion of course.
We'll find out in a few months or a year or  so pending the next virus releasing triggering ADE responses.
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.TM7
[/quote      Old people are easily swayed. So are democrats and a lot of rhinos.

[DDZ]

Interesting statement by Sherri Tenpenny. I generally would be kind of skeptic of things like this, but with everything going on. All the lies, the movement to try and get everyone vaccinated, and the fact that the complications people are having from it are being hidden or not reported. Also the number of people in this world with lots of money like Gates that want population reduction.  Something people are forgetting is that there is a high survival rate if you do get this virus. Again they are using the media, and others to induce fear so people jump in line for this vaccine.   

[Goldie]

To make it more simple, sheep listening to the liberal bs.

[darkgael]

A month ago, 2/3/21, I got the first shot of the Moderna vaccine. Aside from an achy shoulder for a day, I had no reaction. I wrote that I would report when I got the second shot. I received that 3 days ago and aside from an achy shoulder, I have had no adverse reaction.

[Goldie]

A month ago I didn't get a vaccine and now this month I don't plan on it again. The VA wants me to get one and probably soon the airline industry along with amtrac, greyhound bus lines and you name it will too. Bottom line is I don't need no stinking vacs and am not going to be suckered into one. If a person wants one good for them if it makes them feel safer and more secure.

[Doublebass73]

A month ago, 2/3/21, I got the first shot of the Moderna vaccine. Aside from an achy shoulder for a day, I had no reaction. I wrote that I would report when I got the second shot. I received that 3 days ago and aside from an achy shoulder, I have had no adverse reaction.

Thanks dg.

[Buckskin]

I'm glad to hear you had no issues with the second dose DG.  Not everyone has same experience.  I talked to a client of mine yesterday and his brother-in-law got first shot and started feeling poor, tingling in hands and feet that went to numbness, 2 days later he was basically paralyzed from Guillain-Barre syndrome.  They hope for full recovery, but it will take a while.  My aunt had it about 5 years ago, she got it after flu shot as well. she was completely paralyzed, could not move, could not communicate, but heard and understood everything around her.   Took over a year for recovery... Turns out the government has a fund for such things, paid her about 100k for her troubles and expenses,,, not worth it.

[darkgael]

  Not everyone has same experience. 

Roger that. I wonder what the “average” experience is. I was told that I could expect mild flu-like symptoms for a day or two. That did not happen. It did not happen to the majority of the dozen or so folk that I know personally. My sister in law was down for a day and had headaches for a few days. No one had anything like the severe reactions accounted for here. This forum seems to have collected the severe stories (doesn’t mean that they are not true). People have to do what they are most comfortable with.

[Buckskin]

The CDC has already come out and said that the vaccine is likely only good for 3 months or so and the Moderna and Pfizer probably wouldn't have gotten the results they did if they would have been tested on new strains as J&J did.  Your likely looking at 4 to 8 shots a year to keep up.  Fun times...

Or you can just deal with it as a cold or less as 95% of people who got CV-19 did...

[Goldie]

The CDC has already come out and said that the vaccine is likely only good for 3 months or so and the Moderna and Pfizer probably wouldn't have gotten the results they did if they would have been tested on new strains as J&J did.  Your likely looking at 4 to 8 shots a year to keep up.  Fun times...

Or you can just deal with it as a cold or less as 95% of people who got CV-19 did...

  Count me in with that last statement. Amen.

[DDZ]

There is to much money to be made from this vaccine. Absolutely there is going to be a 3rd, 4th, 5th, and so on.  There is no proof what so ever what this vaccine might do to you months from now.  Its why on average vaccines take 10 years to develop, and they did this vaccine in less than a year, and call it effective and safe???   It isn't like they have tried to come up with a vaccine for similar covid viruses in the past. They have, and haven't  been able to, because they can't find one that will work. 
Health officials have said the survival rate for those under 70 is .004% which is less than the flu. I even have to believe its lower than that, due to all the lying about covid deaths.  I have never had a flu shot, and I am sure not getting this experimental vaccine for a virus that if I do get it, i have a pretty darn good chance of not dying from it.  If I do die from it than I figure its because God says its time for me to come home.   

[Buckskin]

Survival rate of less than .004%!!!  I may have to reconsider not getting the shots...

[DDZ]

Survival rate of less than .004%!!!  I may have to reconsider not getting the shots...

Sorry I got one to many zeros. Its .04 for all under 70. Between 50 and 69 its .5%  Again its so hard to know what is true, because all the deaths listed were deaths with covid, not deaths from covid.

[Bob Riebe]

Sorry I got one to many zeros. Its .04 for all under 70. Between 50 and 69 its .5%  Again its so hard to know what is true, because all the deaths listed were deaths with covid, not deaths from covid.

This virus is in the same family group as the common cold, there is NO cure or vaccine for the common cold nor will there ever be one for this.
Herd resilience is all that will make it just another nasty for man kind to deal with.

[Buckskin]

I think you mean 99.6% survival rate, not .04%.

[Mule 11]

  Not everyone has same experience. 

Roger that. I wonder what the “average” experience is. I was told that I could expect mild flu-like symptoms for a day or two. That did not happen. It did not happen to the majority of the dozen or so folk that I know personally. My sister in law was down for a day and had headaches for a few days. No one had anything like the severe reactions accounted for here. This forum seems to have collected the severe stories (doesn’t mean that they are not true). People have to do what they are most comfortable with.

Agreed. I’m not comfortable with the possibility of forced submission to take this vaccine that very possibly could be the next step as evidenced by other countries supporting forced vacs if you want mundane privileges...

[Mule 11]

Gee. I wonder if. Clean water. Knowledge about the importance of washing your hands, sterilizing medical equipment, a healthy diet has had anything to do with lowering disease rates in the world?Just breaking the ice on this one...

[magooch]

I've been getting the annual flu shot ever since they started giving them.  According to my doctors the vaccines are formulated mostly by guess work as to which version of flu will most likely show up.  So they most likely do not have ten years to figure out which flu is going to strike any given year.  Anyway, from my own experience, the flu shot I got for years and years was somewhat effective and sometimes it didn't seem to do so well.  The flu shot I got last September must have been a good one, because so far, I have not been sick with anything.  I guess in part I might attribute that to some precautions due to the Covid thing.  On the other hand I have not gone out of my way to stay away from people any more than usual.

My hope is that everyone who gets the shots at the very least avoids getting this wretched Chinese Covid flu and with any luck avoids any illness.  I don't know what kind of flu my wife and I had about two years ago, but I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.  Well, maybe some of the politicians we're plagued with.

[darkgael]

Gee. I wonder if. Clean water. Knowledge about the importance of washing your hands, sterilizing medical equipment, a healthy diet has had anything to do with lowering disease rates in the world?Just breaking the ice on this one...

Ya think? Nicely stated.
i opted for the shots for a number of reasons. One is that I do not share the overweening distrust of just about everyone that is rampant on these fora.  Two....i have had a bad health year....i am 74. Had diagnoses of cancer and COPD. Evidently, i had a minor stroke a year ago (a TIA). I have a compromised immune system. I get a flu shot every year and so another one is no big deal.

[DDZ]

I think you mean 99.6% survival rate, not .04%.

I did read somewhere a study was done and it claimed for people under 70 years old the death rate was .04%  Keep in mind that for people 20 years old and younger death from covid is pretty much non existent. Which helps lower that number a lot.  Not sure what all data goes into the 99.6% survival rate. I'm guessing it includes people of all ages which covid for those 80 and above is more dangerous. Just like any aliment would be.   So including people over 70 years old in the survival rate figure would certainly lower that number.   

This article was from last August.   
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9243914747