Catholic Archbishop Joseph Naumann Says Joe Needs to Stop!

[Dee]

Kansas City  Archbishop Joseph Naumann says Hiden Joe Biden needs to stop defining himself as a devout catholic because hes not.
Joe supports abortion which goes against catholic teaching for the church.
Maybe if Joe slipped the Archbishop some "indulgence money" he could get a couple a "hail Marys" and be outta this mess.

[DDZ]

Maybe some of these catholic leaders should have opened their mouth long before this, but they couldn't do that. Catholics and democrats go hand in hand.  Over 50% of Catholics voted for Obama twice.  Where was the bishops voices then?

[BUGEYE]

Maybe some of these catholic leaders should have opened their mouth long before this, but they couldn't do that. Catholics and democrats go hand in hand.  Over 50% of Catholics voted for Obama twice.  Where was the bishops voices then?

Good question.
As most here know, I believe that ANYONE who casts his vote for a democrat/communist has sold his soul to the devil.
You are not alone in that voting booth.  GOD is watching over your shoulder.

[Doublebass73]

It's good that there's a few in the Catholic church willing to call him out but we have to remember that Joe's a pedophile so he fits right in.

[DDZ]

It's good that there's a few in the Catholic church willing to call him out but we have to remember that Joe's a pedophile so he fits right in.

You know, I didn't think of that, but it certainly has some truth to it.

[Lloyd Smale]

are you saying catholics are pedophiles or that catholic priests are the only preachers that are pedophiles or preachers are the only profession that has pedophiles?? You are always quick to accuse. Lets see some real numbers that say theres more catholic priest doing it or having it covered up then say the school systems or police or polittians just like old joe. truth is theres pedophiles in every profession and probably every town in the US. Some just get a sick satisfaction from spouting there old predudices. Your bs gets old. and your sanctimonious my church is better then yours bs is a JOKE. Its in your church too and its covered up there too. I try to stay out of the religion bs here anymore. Its the same blind idiots posting all the time with the predudices there daddy handed down to them. Sorry but in what church is bashing another christian faith considered christian??? Just like all republicans have to stick together as one strong force today. Never in the history of Christianity is us fighting as one force for God more important. Wake up before its to late. 

It's good that there's a few in the Catholic church willing to call him out but we have to remember that Joe's a pedophile so he fits right in.

[Goldie]

Lloyd I have to agree with you about sticking up 100% but where i disagree is in believing the so called republican party anymore. As far as I'm concerned most are rhinos. Trump is his own party whatever that is. I don't see any washington politician replacing him.

[powderman]

There are NO CHRISTIAN democrats. Their party approves of and supports sin. Dems should never be allowed to be Pastors, Deacons, or hold any office, or take communion. CHARLIE. 

[Dee]

What about Republicans Charlie? They say they're pro-life, but never do anything.

[Lloyd Smale]

i sure agree with that. Throw homosexuals into the list too.

There are NO CHRISTIAN democrats. Their party approves of and supports sin. Dems should never be allowed to be Pastors, Deacons, or hold any office, or take communion. CHARLIE. 

[Lloyd Smale]

Same with the 2nd amemendement for about 75 percent of the republican's. They are real good at making claims on the internet or when talking to there buddys but dont really do anything but lip service. A good many wont even donate 20 bucks to the nra or goa. They let others walk the walk while they talk the talk. Same thing goes like you said for a high percentage of Christians. they think going to church once a month or being born into a family that went to a certain church makes them automatically a Christian. The worse are the ones that memorize the bible but totally ignore how it teaches us to act. Dee is right. Bottom line is id bet God gets angrier at people claiming to be Christian that do nothing then he does non Christians. Id bet he hates a hypocrite.

What about Republicans Charlie? They say they're pro-life, but never do anything.

[Dee]

Kansas City  Archbishop Joseph Naumann says Hiden Joe Biden needs to stop defining himself as a devout catholic because hes not.
Joe supports abortion which goes against catholic teaching for the church.

[Lloyd Smale]

like I said HYPOCRITE

[Doublebass73]

are you saying catholics are pedophiles or that catholic priests are the only preachers that are pedophiles or preachers are the only profession that has pedophiles?? You are always quick to accuse. Lets see some real numbers that say theres more catholic priest doing it or having it covered up then say the school systems or police or polittians just like old joe. truth is theres pedophiles in every profession and probably every town in the US. Some just get a sick satisfaction from spouting there old predudices. Your bs gets old. and your sanctimonious my church is better then yours bs is a JOKE. Its in your church too and its covered up there too. I try to stay out of the religion bs here anymore. Its the same blind idiots posting all the time with the predudices there daddy handed down to them. Sorry but in what church is bashing another christian faith considered christian??? Just like all republicans have to stick together as one strong force today. Never in the history of Christianity is us fighting as one force for God more important. Wake up before its to late. 

It's good that there's a few in the Catholic church willing to call him out but we have to remember that Joe's a pedophile so he fits right in.

I never once mentioned "my church is better that you church" so you can drop that BS. There's no prejudices, just facts that you refuse to acknowledge. Read the John Jay Report. 4392 Catholic priests and deacons in active ministry between 1950 and 2002 have been accused of underage sexual abuse by 10,667 people. That's approximately 4% of the priests and deacons who served at that time. That's a huge percentage of pedophiles, that's why I said Biden would fit right in.

Yes there are pedophiles in other churches and organizations as well. The difference between them and the Catholic church is the Catholic Church was the ONLY one out of everyone who had a documented internal policy to protect pedophile priests by moving them to new churches AFTER these priest were caught abusing kids. The fact that you continue to ignore that FACT is the only sickening prejudice here. There is no excuse for that type of policy yet here you are trying to make excuses for it.

[BUGEYE]

Good post Double,  The catholic church seems to answer to the pope so I put most of the blame right there.
EVERY pedophile and anyone supporting a pedophile needs to do prison time.

But we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of GOD.  IMHO, I don't think GOD will allow pedophiles forgiveness until they've done prison time.

[DDZ]

I think the problem lies with the Catholic law or rule that says priests have to remain celibate. Which is not biblical. God never intended for them to be celibate.  You would think the catholic leaders would know that rules like that do little to change the heart.  When they give into sexual temptation, it often leads to unnatural sexual acts like homosexuality and pedophilia.
 Absolutely there are other sexual predators in other denominations, but it is a fact that a higher percentage of them are in the catholic church. What is the reason for that? Probably the celibacy rule, and the fact that the Pope and other catholic leaders try to hide it from the public eye.  Trying to hide this, or deny it, is as bad as the act itself, because it just leads to more of it.

[Doublebass73]

Good post Double,  The catholic church seems to answer to the pope so I put most of the blame right there.
EVERY pedophile and anyone supporting a pedophile needs to do prison time.

But we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of GOD.  IMHO, I don't think GOD will allow pedophiles forgiveness until they've done prison time.

The popes over the years all implemented the policy of moving pedophile priests to different churches after they were caught molesting children. It was a very longstanding policy within the Catholic church. The archbishops were just following the standard procedure of the Catholic church but then again the Nazis were only following orders when they burned Jews so the archbishops were equally as guilty. My church growing up was part of the archdiocese of Boston, at the time Cardinal Medeiros moved a pedophile priest to my church who had gotten caught molesting boys at a church in the city next to mine. That priest molested a bunch of boys including my cousin. After Cardinal Medeiros died they appointed Cardinal Bernard Law. He followed the Catholic church's procedure of moving pedophile preists as well. One of the priests he had moved to a different church after getting caught molesting boys was named father Geoghan. That priest alone molested or raped over 130 boys over a 30 year career.

Cardinal Law never did any jail time after he got caught moving pedophile priests around and just to rub salt in the wounds of all of the victims of his pedophile priests the pope at the time Pope John Paul II gave Cardinal Law a promotion to the Vatican where he lived out the last 13 years of his life in luxury. Talk about a corrupt, disgusting organization.

[BUGEYE]

I think the problem lies with the Catholic law or rule that says priests have to remain celibate. Which is not biblical. God never intended for them to be celibate.  You would think the catholic leaders would know that rules like that do little to change the heart.  When they give into sexual temptation, it often leads to unnatural sexual acts like homosexuality and pedophilia.
 Absolutely there are other sexual predators in other denominations, but it is a fact that a higher percentage of them are in the catholic church. What is the reason for that? Probably the celibacy rule, and the fact that the Pope and other catholic leaders try to hide it from the public eye.  Trying to hide this, or deny it, is as bad as the act itself, because it just leads to more of it.

1st Timothy 4:3 mentions that about commanding not to marry.     So celibacy is not Biblical, it’s man made like many other nonsensical rules.

[Bob Riebe]

https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/696#:~:text=A%20few%20decades%20later%20Pope,approved%20forbidding%20priests%20to%20marry.

The first written mandate requiring priests to be chaste came in AD 304. Canon 33 of the Council of Elvira stated that all"bishops, presbyters, and deacons and all other clerics" were to"abstain completely from their wives and not to have children." A short time later, in 325, the Council of Nicea, convened by Constantine, rejected a ban on priests marrying requested by Spanish clerics.

The practice of priestly celibacy began to spread in the Western Church in the early Middle Ages. In the early 11th century Pope Benedict VIII responded to the decline in priestly morality by issuing a rule prohibiting the children of priests from inheriting property. A few decades later Pope Gregory VII issued a decree against clerical marriages.

The Church was a thousand years old before it definitively took a stand in favor of celibacy in the twelfth century at the Second Lateran Council held in 1139, when a rule was approved forbidding priests to marry. In 1563, the Council of Trent reaffirmed the tradition of celibacy.

Several explanations have been offered for the decision of the Church to adopt celibacy. Barry University's Ed Sunshine told Knight-Ridder that the policy was initiated to distinguish the clergy as a special group:"A celibate clergy became the paradigm of separation from the sinful world." A.W. Richard Sipe, a former priest and author of Sex, Priests and Power: The Anatomy of Crisis (1995), told Knight-Ridder that the"question at the time was who is the final power -- the king or the church. If [the church] could control a person's sex life, it could control their money, their employment, their benefice." Garry Wills suggested in Under God that the ban on marriage was adopted to lift the status of priests at a time when their authority was being challenged by nobles and others.

Protestants early on took exception to celibacy, arguing that it promoted masturbation, homosexuality and illicit fornication. Martin Luther singled out masturbation as one of the gravest offenses likely to be committed by those who were celibate."Nature never lets up," Luther warned,"we are all driven to the secret sin. To say it crudely but honestly, if it doesn't go into a woman, it goes into your shirt." American Protestants in the 17th century, fearful of radical religious sects like the Shakers that celebrated celibacy, came out foursquare against the practice.

Sadly in the long run, it replaced whoring around with homosexual pedophilia.