The basis of Marxism/communism...

[ironglows]

  The foundation stone of Marxism/communism..is an instilled hatred of God, and all he stands for.  That is apparently why the Marxists drove to "dumb down" a generation of students. Our best defense against creeping socialism, is instilling Christian training in our children.
  And needless to say, any person who tries to claim both Jesus a Lenin, is a most confused person!  It is as fruitless as trying to claim both Jesus and Satan...

  Check this out !  https://anglicanmainstream.org/why-karl-marx-hated-god-and-marxists-hate-christians/

[ironglows]

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    The "woke" troglodytes apparently don't mind that the father of their ideology was a devotee to old Beelzebub !

  https://www.amazon.com/Devil-Karl-Marx-Communisms-Infiltration/dp/1505114446/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2MBIFJ9I4OR89&dchild=1&keywords=the+devil+and+karl+marx&qid=1599771851&sprefix=Devil+and+%2Caps%2C191&sr=8-2#customerReviews

  Go to the gold stars and click onto >951 ratings< ..much can be learned

[DDZ]

Everywhere Marxism has been tried, and implemented into a society, it has never worked. Yet here we are in America with many ignorant citizens thinking that socialism/Marxism is better.  Also everywhere that Marxism has been the model for government. Christians have been persecuted. Reason being is that Christianity and Marxism can not coexist.  Marxism is atheistic philosophy, and there is no room for God.  With Marxism the state becomes the provider, sustainer, protector, and lawmaker for the citizens.  In other words the state or government becomes the God, and has to be. With Christianity, Christians always appeal to a higher authority in God, and Marxists don't like a higher authority than themselves. 
Marxism is always about material things, where Christianity is always about spiritual things.  With Marxism. Private property has to be abolished, and the state owns everything for the common good. The Bible upholds the ownership of property.  Marxism also destroys accountability, with redistribution of wealth. Which goes against God's word in the bible that people are to work,  be responsible, and are to support themselves.  In short the bible promotes freedom, and personal responsibility. Neither of those last long under Marxist rule.
One problem I see with many of today's Christians is that they think that Christianity and socialism/Marxism can coincide with each other. Proof of that is, with all the Christians that vote for socialilism.  I say they are two complete different belief systems, and can't see how they could ever coexist with each other. History proves that they can't. 
I totally agree the best defense against Marxism is the teaching of God's word.

[Argent 88]

Abraham Lincoln was an avid fan of Carl Marx.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2019/07/27/you-know-who-was-into-karl-marx-no-not-aoc-abraham-lincoln/

[Doublebass73]

Lincoln was one of our worst presidents ever so I'm not surprised.

[Dee]

That Lincoln studied Marx is a myth that has circulated off and no for years.
That Lincoln had even heard of Karl Marx is doubtful, and there has never been any evidence found that he had.
But the fact that Lincoln was a socialist, there is no doubt. Like Obama, he was a one term congressman, but in the realm of chaos, and Constitutional destruction, Lincoln made Obama look like a Sunday school teacher.
Lincoln with the support of lobbyists for the "industrialized North, and with the use of the United States military, is guilty of the killing of almost 1 million Southern men, women, and children, destroying homes, farms, and burned entire cities.
Allegedly for the "preservation of the union", and freeing the slaves.

Ending another myth that if order, the United States military would not fire on United States citizens.

Quite an accomplishment of being called "The Great Emancipator" after such a slaughter of humanity, and the destruction of cities, towns, and families.

[BUGEYE]

Plus, you cannot be a CHRISTIAN and a democrat/communist at the same time.
At the democrat/communist conventions they make it a point to vote the name of GOD out of their platform.
As they punch their tickets to hell.

[ironglows]

Abraham Lincoln was an avid fan of Carl Marx.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2019/07/27/you-know-who-was-into-karl-marx-no-not-aoc-abraham-lincoln/

   There you go, reading the Washington Post and believing it!  Don't you know they are one of the "fake news" leaders?

     So, you read some things in the WaPo...do you believe all of it ?   

       Abe Lincoln may have read something, that doesn't mean he believed it!  For land sakes, I have read parts of "Mein Kampf" and "The Communist Manifesto", as well as having read Saul Alinsky's "Rules For Radicals"..
 
   ...And guess what; I don't believe in or agree with ANY of that drivel!  Check out this article;

   https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2019/07/fact-check-no-abraham-lincoln-was-not-influenced-daniel-greenfield/

 

[ironglows]

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 It looks like WaPo made some connections that never existed!  So we see how they are trying to smear Lincoln, while trying to make AOC some kind of political pioneer !

     How many times does any venue have to be proven "fake news" before their reputation is solid?

[darkgael]

I wonder how many people actually understand Communism and what it is. Very few, if any, I have come to believe. I doubt very much whether there are any “real” communists alive today. Communism, as has been pointed out earlier in this thread, just doesn’t work. It never has worked. In practice, the countries that we label “communist” are monarchies, dictatorships in disguise (and not much disguise either). Anyone who seriously espouses communism is deluded at best and probably a fool.
Too often on this forum, when a public figure is disliked, someone will pipe up “communist”. Whatever they are, whatever they think that they believe, however foolish....it probably ain’t communism.
Christianity may be a bulwark against tide of “it ain’t communism” . There are, however, many good, hardworking folk in this country who are not commies and not Christians, who may not even believe in any God and yet lead good, moral, ethical lives. Being a Christian is not a prerequisite for being a good person.
Pete

[ironglows]

I wonder how many people actually understand Communism and what it is. Very few, if any, I have come to believe. I doubt very much whether there are any “real” communists alive today. Communism, as has been pointed out earlier in this thread, just doesn’t work. It never has worked. In practice, the countries that we label “communist” are monarchies, dictatorships in disguise (and not much disguise either). Anyone who seriously espouses communism is deluded at best and probably a fool.
Too often on this forum, when a public figure is disliked, someone will pipe up “communist”. Whatever they are, whatever they think that they believe, however foolish....it probably ain’t communism.
Christianity may be a bulwark against tide of “it ain’t communism” . There are, however, many good, hardworking folk in this country who are not commies and not Christians  and lead good, moral, ethical lives. Being a Christian is not a prerequisite for being a good person.
Pete

   Right Pete; communism as Marx outlined it, has never worked.  Each time it is tried, it has resulted in a dictatorship of one kind or another, and I am not so sure but what the hidden "string pullers" want just that..with themselves as the operating  oligarchy.
  We can forget communism as Marx originally described it, simply because it never works out and always descends into slavery for the people...so that is what we today call communism.

   That diabolical theory hates Christianity, because Christianity has God.  Dedicated communists want government to be god, and ironically..they want no god before their god.
    It's either God or gov!  So, in that manner, Christianity is a bulwark against communism..and that is why communists hate God !

  Yes, a person can live comfortably and be financially successful without allegiance to God...but that is another discussion, for another time.

[darkgael]

IG: Good morning. Got your clocks turned ahead, did you? 
I am not a believer in the “hidden string pullers” theory. It is too easy to blame “things” on a faceless, nameless, and essentially timeless force that one cannot identify. The boogie man.
Pete

[Argent 88]

There were several of these that popped up during a search. Not just WAPO, I first heard it in College but I didn't pay a lot of attention to it. There was a book out years ago called The Red Menace, and it wasn't very kind to Lincoln.  Mostly for want Dee had posted. He may not have ever met Marx but I'm sure he knew who he was.

[DDZ]

Being a Christian is not a prerequisite for being a good person.
Pete

I certainly agree with that. On the other hand I believe that hell will be stacked to the ceiling with "good" people.   

[BUGEYE]

  We can forget communism as Marx originally described it, simply because it never works out and always descends into slavery for the people...so that is what we today call communism.

Dictator = communist dictator.  They both have the same result for the people.
USSR, china, cuba, and Venezuela, they are communist dictatorships, which is coming to a USA near you.

[darkgael]

USSR? Not anymore. You are dating yourself.

[BUGEYE]

USSR? Not anymore. You are dating yourself.

We wouldn't nitpick would we??
I also consider the current Russia as communist. 

[Fixit]

Pure communism looks like the Smurfs.... but it doesn't work in human society. As anyone who has worked in a union shop knows, communism sucks the work ethic out of most people. The lure of 'free' money brings out the most basic of human depravity... selfishness.