VACCINE PASSPORTS ARE SLAVERY FOREVER

[BUGEYE]

My wife and I have had the J&J shot.
We will continue to wear masks for our protection and others.
We also keep Lysol wipes handy at home, truck, and Jeep.
We took the shot mainly in case the cruise lines require it.  Not because the government does.

And, we are looking at a one week cruise on Norwegian which of course is pending the opening of Fl cruise ports.

[DDZ]

I agree 100% Leanna Wen is a fake swamp doctor. I don't care what her credentials are. It has nothing to do with her ability to turn into a fake swamp doctor.  Wasn't she one of the wack jobs, along with wack job Faucci that was telling everyone to not visit family over Christmas, and stay home?  I do know one thing.  When she was the head of Planned Parenthood. She killed more humans than covid ever did. JUst in 2017-18 Planned parenthood performed over 320,00 abortions, but provided just 2831 adoption referrals.  Being that planned Parenthood is one of the most effective political lobbying organizations in America, I think she was a plant by the Communist Chinese party.   Leanna Wen. Just another Trump hater being propped up by the radical left.

[darkgael]

Yeah well, i don't think Dr. Leana Wen is blowing hot air _ _ she's talking about creating an Apartheid State by medical tyranny.

And I don't think Naomi Wolf is speaking fallaciously _ _ she's issuing a dire warning about where the technocracy is heading.
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.TM7

Was finally able to sit down and process both Leanna Wen and Naomi Wolf. Dr. Wen has a much more credible CV with an extensive background as a physician and public health advocate.
Naomi Wolf, on the other hand, has a history of unreliable commentary. That does not mean that her warning is wrong but her background is suspect.

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DG...maybe you should review some of the post material before commenting. You think? You often determinine other poster's comments not meeting your high standards of commentary; which I've noticed is a frequent tactic of yours on this board _ _ to dissect a poster's style or remmarks when they don't fit your rational scheme of things.

No need to dissect this -->  i think Leanna Yew is a fake swamp doctor, just like fake swamp doctor Fauci, and both are promoting a hoax and seditious crimes against the American people. They should start with wster boarding Fauci to find out who his co-conspirators are in this medical terrorism and tyranny perpetrated on the American people. I am shocked that once Freedom and Liberty loving Americans have rolled over and submitted ro these medical terrorist; literally submitting to jabs with experimental so-called vaccines from proven criminal pharma syndicates. SHOCKING!

As for Naomi Wolfe, she is a Yale graduate and as a Rhodes scholar earned her PhD from Oxford.. She has served in many advisory ways for numerous public figures. She runs business and makes a oayroll.  I dare  say she has published more books and articles than everybody on this board together, and when detractors, such as yourself, use innuendo or accuse Naomi of being a 'conspiracy theorist' I know she is flying directly over the target zone.

Certainly she comes from a leftist perspective,  and I don't agree with everything she says. But in this particular case coming from the left mahes her warning about obscene vax passports even more critical. Kudos to Dr. Wolf for ringing the liberty bell, and shining the light on these medical terrorists, their journo-terrorist accomplices, and the fake Joebama henchmen striving to steal our Liberty and replace it with a CCP styled apartheid 'purity test'.
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.TM7

Thank you.

[darkgael]

I agree 100% Leanna Wen is a fake swamp doctor. I don't care what her credentials are. It has nothing to do with her ability to turn into a fake swamp doctor.  Wasn't she one of the wack jobs, along with wack job Faucci that was telling everyone to not visit family over Christmas, and stay home?  I do know one thing.  When she was the head of Planned Parenthood. She killed more humans than covid ever did. JUst in 2017-18 Planned parenthood performed  Being that planned Parenthood is one of the most effective political lobbying organizations in America, I think she was a plant by the Communist Chinese party.   Leanna Wen. Just another Trump hater being propped up by the radical left.

And thank you too.

[Doublebass73]

Die with COVID vs die from COVID??
Hospitals listing COVID deaths to get a bigger paycheck. Ok, I will bite....how many?

Pete, my girlfriend is an RN/BSN at our local hospital and is graduating in a month with her master's to become a Nurse Practitioner. She volunteered to get the vaccine because she has RA so is immunocompromised. She's the last person anyone would call a conspiracy theorist. She told me that she witnessed point blank doctors that she works with getting angry because her hospital forced these doctors to literally change the cause of death from whatever their patients died of to Covid. Medicare pays more if deaths are listed as Covid.

You see, when you subsidize Covid deaths you get more Covid deaths. We have no way of knowing how many hospitals did this but if I were a betting man I'd wager the house that ALL HOSPITALS did this. There's too much money at stake for them to do otherwise. Because of this we'll never know the real numbers of how many people actually died from Covid itself in the US.

Even the leftist "fact checkers" employed by Facebook, USA Today, etc. admit that hospitals receive more money from Covid deaths than other types of deaths:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/

[Dee]

So your saying that these doctors were ordered to commit fraud, so they did? Why hasn't your girlfriend (a witness), reported this to the authorities?

[DDZ]

Die with COVID vs die from COVID??
Hospitals listing COVID deaths to get a bigger paycheck. Ok, I will bite....how many?

Pete, my girlfriend is an RN/BSN at our local hospital and is graduating in a month with her master's to become a Nurse Practitioner. She volunteered to get the vaccine because she has RA so is immunocompromised. She's the last person anyone would call a conspiracy theorist. She told me that she witnessed point blank doctors that she works with getting angry because her hospital forced these doctors to literally change the cause of death from whatever their patients died of to Covid. Medicare pays more if deaths are listed as Covid.

You see, when you subsidize Covid deaths you get more Covid deaths. We have no way of knowing how many hospitals did this but if I were a betting man I'd wager the house that ALL HOSPITALS did this. There's too much money at stake for them to do otherwise. Because of this we'll never know the real numbers of how many people actually died from Covid itself in the US.

Even the leftist "fact checkers" employed by Facebook, USA Today, etc. admit that hospitals receive more money from Covid deaths than other types of deaths:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/

...and yet the brainwashed covid crowd just denies this.  I have seen videos of other hospital staff saying the same thing, but after going public. I'm sure they probably went through hardship for speaking out about it.  Anyone else that claims this about hospitals making up covid deaths, they can just easily have a conspiracy theorist label stamped on them.   Someone on the inside saying this is a different story. There would be an attempt to destroy their lives for speaking the truth.

[Doublebass73]

So your saying that these doctors were ordered to commit fraud, so they did? Why hasn't your girlfriend (a witness), reported this to the authorities?

What authorities are they going to report it to? The same government that wants to control us via the virus? The local PD would laugh at her if she reported that to them.

The game all of these hospitals are playing to get more Covid bucks is anyone who dies after testing positive for Covid is counted as a Covid death even if they died from pneumonia, heart disease, cancer, etc. That's what the doctor my girlfriend talked to was upset about. He had a patient who died from pneumonia but had tested positive for Covid so the hospital forced him to put Covid as the cause of death. Another case of "follow your orders" or lose your job I guess.

[Dee]

So your saying that these doctors were ordered to commit fraud, so they did? Why hasn't your girlfriend (a witness), reported this to the authorities?

What authorities are they going to report it to? The same government that wants to control us via the virus? The local PD would laugh at her if she reported that to them.

The game all of these hospitals are playing to get more Covid bucks is anyone who dies after testing positive for Covid is counted as a Covid death even if they died from pneumonia, heart disease, cancer, etc. That's what the doctor my girlfriend talked to was upset about. He had a patient who died from pneumonia but had tested positive for Covid so the hospital forced him to put Covid as the cause of death. Another case of "follow your orders" or lose your job I guess.

I'd start at Fox, Newsmax, and then OneAmericaNews.

Not exactly authorities, but might throw some wood on a smoldering fire.

[darkgael]

TM7 : You devote a great deal of time and energy researching these ideas and situations. What does your research tell you about the pandemic as it is, for instance, in Europe? I have asked this question twice before and it has been ignored even though most of the 2.9 million reported deaths in 2020 occurred outside the USA.
Pete

[darkgael]

I did look back at your post #47. Dr. Y indulges in extensive extrapolation. I believe that the term is hypothesis contrary to fact.
Yes, those scenarios are possible. Lots of scenarios are possible.....and not possible or probable. Which a person buys into depends on the depth of their distrust of government and their belief in the shadowy, faceless, nameless elite that is controlling everything and everyone.
Despite the doctor’s imposing credentials, he makes the same uncheckable accusations as every other person who believes that extensive conspiracies exist. No one is ever named....even though these “world control” ideas extend many years into the past. Who is in charge? Who is going to take over? Is this a power sharing plan or will domination reduce itself to a single individual?
My point is that without naming names, we can make any accusations we wish....sensible or fantastic....and there is no way to check.

[Doublebass73]

So your saying that these doctors were ordered to commit fraud, so they did? Why hasn't your girlfriend (a witness), reported this to the authorities?

What authorities are they going to report it to? The same government that wants to control us via the virus? The local PD would laugh at her if she reported that to them.

The game all of these hospitals are playing to get more Covid bucks is anyone who dies after testing positive for Covid is counted as a Covid death even if they died from pneumonia, heart disease, cancer, etc. That's what the doctor my girlfriend talked to was upset about. He had a patient who died from pneumonia but had tested positive for Covid so the hospital forced him to put Covid as the cause of death. Another case of "follow your orders" or lose your job I guess.

I'd start at Fox, Newsmax, and then OneAmericaNews.

Not exactly authorities, but might throw some wood on a smoldering fire.

Laura Ingraham has covered it to some extent. Between the extremely loose CDC guidelines for what counts as a Covid death and the extra medicare bucks for hospitals for each Covid death it's no surprise we're in a "pandemic".

https://www.foxnews.com/media/physician-blasts-cdc-coronavirus-death-count-guidelines

[darkgael]

what counts as a Covid death and the extra medicare bucks for hospitals for each Covid death it's no surprise we're in a "pandemic".

How does that apply to the rest of the world?

[Mule 11]

what counts as a Covid death and the extra medicare bucks for hospitals for each Covid death it's no surprise we're in a "pandemic".

How does that apply to the rest of the world?

In a nutshell. New World Order... Grab you ankles citizen and enjoy the ride...

[Goldie]

what counts as a Covid death and the extra medicare bucks for hospitals for each Covid death it's no surprise we're in a "pandemic".

How does that apply to the rest of the world?

In a nutshell. New World Order... Grab you ankles citizen and enjoy the ride...

    Just make sure your mask is on while grabbing your ankles or fauci will be all over you.

[Mule 11]

Slavery to whom? Depopulation elite? Vaccine passport (what is that?)
CCP style slavery, dog collar passport, tyranny, and

They are using socialist corps like Microsoft,  Walmart,  Airline, and supermarket corporations to carry out their designs,  which are directly based on the social credit system that Google created for the CCP. Never has there ever been such an afront to the Constitution and inalienable rigjts _ _ ever in world history at any time.

This is the Biblical 'beast system and its sad to see so many American's acquiescence  to such evil.  For the remnant that leave this 'city of evil' don't look back.

  Buzzwords.
And frothing at the mouth.
My goodness....You need another hobby.

PS: DeSantis is batguano crazy.

I would like DeSantis as my governor...

[Goldie]

Slavery to whom? Depopulation elite? Vaccine passport (what is that?)
CCP style slavery, dog collar passport, tyranny, and

They are using socialist corps like Microsoft,  Walmart,  Airline, and supermarket corporations to carry out their designs,  which are directly based on the social credit system that Google created for the CCP. Never has there ever been such an afront to the Constitution and inalienable rigjts _ _ ever in world history at any time.

This is the Biblical 'beast system and its sad to see so many American's acquiescence  to such evil.  For the remnant that leave this 'city of evil' don't look back.

  Buzzwords.
And frothing at the mouth.
My goodness....You need another hobby.

PS: DeSantis is batguano crazy.

I would like DeSantis as my governor...

  Gotta agree mule, he looks like a great Governor for Arizona as well. Better yet President even better.

[DDZ]

Here is some reasons to not get the vaccine. #12 mentions the bloated covid death numbers.  The video by Vanden Bossche, a seasoned volcanologist is interesting. Although no one will listen to him, because he is not a swamp doctor.

https://l.messenger.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.deconstructingconventional.com%2Fpost%2F18-reason-i-won-t-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine&h=AT2H5bRRubbHj35VMO2VtKKhEaQykjG4uS79ycEFWzNfmWtuBRjGa7e8WUHtK5iv_UpxViZM78yTngHvVH4WNUpie4ZckUvXeqLuCsubIsCR3ABRRqD5aGT6gkfPWeoYD7Sl

[darkgael]

TM7: Thank you for putting up with my continuing skepticism.  I am in the midst of researching the numerous points and accusations that you have made. I have started with Bill Gates. Has he been tested and diagnosed formally as a clinical psychopath or is that an online “from afar” analysis of psychopathic tendencies? ( note:

The psychopathic tendency to have a "profound lack of remorse, callousness and a lack of empathy" and the ability to blend any emotional or interpersonal deficits can work well for individuals in leadership roles, according to Michael Woodward, an organizational psychologist and executive coach, according to CNBC.

Psychopaths "have certain characteristics like fearless dominance, boldness and a lack of emotion," Woodward said.

Silicon Valley CEOs are not the only ones with psychopathic tenancies. According to Woodward, many successful presidents score high on the psychopathy scale.

If accurate, this description applies to many goal oriented, “driven” people. It is a fair descriptor of a number of members of this forum as well as our recent President.)
Gates as “wanted man”. Working on this now, remembering that an accusation does not mean that the person accused is guilty. Italy? India? Nope and nope.
Your accusations are painted with a very broad brush.
We can accuse anyone of anything.  I could accuse you of being a plant hired by some unknown manipulator in order to push ideas counter to the mainstream so as to manipulate opinions and gradually force the country toward anarchy. You have several markers. Where does a person find the time to do all the research that you have available....without help? Where does a person have the time to make nineteen thousand posts unless it is a full time job?
Sound silly? Yes. Perhaps not to someone who wants to believe ill of you.

[Goldie]

Maybe, just maybe this Johnson fiasco will shed new light on the great vaccine rush.

[darkgael]

Good point.

[Goldie]

Well TM7 and DG the only thing I can add is you two Gents are way over my head in discussions on here. What gets me about this disease and vaccines in general is I believe that people and i won't use the term sheep from offending any here have swallowed the media's brainwashing of everything involved. It might very well have affected many people but it is a known fact that medical agencies have false reported covid numbers. I think also a rush to vaccinate even though Trump pushed it through. What gets me most is my wife and myself both had the covid according to tests and also my Grandson and his wife and none of us had any bad symptoms. None. The only bad symptoms I have seen are when close friends and relatives actually get the vaccine and feel sick afterwards.  So it is hard for me to believe what you hear in the news. Just my last two cents on the subject.

[darkgael]

his reaction is to question and dissect the method and motives of the ooster instead of considering the substance of the post

Did I do that? Question motives?

[darkgael]

My goodness. Please. Please. Please believe me.,,,,that little scenario was not intended to impugn you in any way nor to question your motives. It was meant only as an example of how any of person can be accused of anything. If a person wanted to do you I’ll and if that person was a perhaps a little off kilter then very normal things about you (or about me) would appear abnormal and be spun out. You are transformed from a retired guy trying to do the right thing into an anarchist.
I really did not expect to be taken seriously. Sorry. Really.
Pete