Author Topic: No way!!!  (Read 918 times)

0 Members and 5 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Argent 88

  • GBO DJ
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3768
No way!!!
« on: May 03, 2021, 08:34:40 AM »
Semi Autonomous vehicles are extremely dangerous. Not only to the occupants but the other drivers on the road as well. We are still decades away from any machine, robots, androids ,or anything else that is fully autonomous.


Offline Ranger99

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9581
Re: No way!!!
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2021, 04:33:52 PM »
People in 2021 want devices that
take the least effort away from whatever
they do. Might take a bit longer, but
we'll have the driverless cars and trucks
like the "Johnny Cab " in the Total Recall
movie,  and robotic servants and lovers
and everything else.
I know dozens that won't even walk 3
minutes to their mailbox and back.
Golf cart or UTV
18 MINUTES.  . . . . . .

Offline ironglows

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4387
Re: No way!!!
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2021, 04:40:33 PM »
This is the age of "gadget fascination"!  Some folks seem to be mesmerized with technology and gadgets !

  Just look at all the techy looking stuff packed into cars & trucks..as well as kitchens and throughout the house.

  Much like big, elaborate homes with exorbitant maintenance, I think many people buy that stuff, just to impress others.

  If I were to buy a new car or truck today, I would be forced to buy many things I don't  even want.
"They have the guns and therefore we are for peace and for reformation through the ballot. When we have the guns, then it will be through the bullet"      (Saul Alinsky) ...hero of the left..

Offline Ranger99

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9581
Re: No way!!!
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2021, 04:44:26 PM »
Most people forget to consider the
high cost of repairs for all that gadgetry.
18 MINUTES.  . . . . . .

Offline Lloyd Smale

  • Moderators
  • Trade Count: (32)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 18267
Re: No way!!!
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2021, 11:14:00 AM »
liberal biden will probably sign an executive order releasing them from liability in a wreck as long as they dont kill a minority ;D
blue lives matter

Offline Doublebass73

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (46)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4579
Re: No way!!!
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2021, 12:11:17 PM »
Most people forget to consider the
high cost of repairs for all that gadgetry.

That's why I'm still driving cars made in 2005. I have a 2005 Jeep Wrangler with crank windows, no ABS and no gadgets with 282K miles on it. I also have a 2005 Grand Marquis with no gadgets. I can't get interested in newer vehicles with gadgets I don't want or need and don't want to pay the silly prices they want. I wish a car manufacturer would come out with an affordable vehicle with the bare minimum of options, that has to be a huge untapped market because I'm not the only one who feels that way.

One of the gadgets that gives me the biggest laughs is the newer RFID keys. You pay extra for that "security" rather than having an old fashioned key on the steering column to start your car. Because these RFID keys are "intelligent" it's now easier to steal cars than it was in the old days when car thieves had to smash the steering columns. All thieves have to do now is drive into your neighborhood with a a special RFID reader and read your electronic "key" from a distance. They create an electronic match and voila, they steal your car. Most of the stolen cars go right to a shipping container where they get shipped overseas. It's a huge black market.
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."

---- William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783

Offline Argent 88

  • GBO DJ
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3768
Re: No way!!!
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2021, 12:53:30 PM »
Gas pumps also. Hackers love that. They put a tiny thin film in there, which reads your card.  Been there.

Offline Ranger99

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9581
Re: No way!!!
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2021, 01:03:37 PM »
Some of the gas stations here are
putting security stickers across the
little doors that access the controls
of the pumps, but I'm sure the thieves
will figure out a way to defeat that
like they do everything else.
Having a keyed lock sure didn't
stop em. They just made a key and
continued stealing
18 MINUTES.  . . . . . .

Offline Argent 88

  • GBO DJ
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3768
Re: No way!!!
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2021, 01:19:46 PM »
Some of the gas stations here are
putting security stickers across the
little doors that access the controls
of the pumps, but I'm sure the thieves
will figure out a way to defeat that
like they do everything else.
Having a keyed lock sure didn't
stop em. They just made a key and
continued stealing

Card Chip didn't either.

Offline Ranger99

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9581
Re: No way!!!
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2021, 01:44:51 PM »
Vendors used to check photo ID,
but that ship sailed long ago too
18 MINUTES.  . . . . . .

Offline billy_56081

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (5)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8575
  • Gender: Male
Re: No way!!!
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2021, 03:11:21 PM »
My company car is a Subaru Forester,  while not autonomous it has "vision". It keeps you in your lane and at the same speed as the car in front of you.  It will even come to a complete stop if the car in front of you stops. I absolutely love it.
99% of all Lawyers give the other 1% a bad name. What I find hilarious about this is they are such an arrogant bunch, that they all think they are in the 1%.

Offline ironglows

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4387
Re: No way!!!
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2021, 03:37:28 PM »
Most people forget to consider the
high cost of repairs for all that gadgetry.

That's why I'm still driving cars made in 2005. I have a 2005 Jeep Wrangler with crank windows, no ABS and no gadgets with 282K miles on it. I also have a 2005 Grand Marquis with no gadgets. I can't get interested in newer vehicles with gadgets I don't want or need and don't want to pay the silly prices they want. I wish a car manufacturer would come out with an affordable vehicle with the bare minimum of options, that has to be a huge untapped market because I'm not the only one who feels that way.

One of the gadgets that gives me the biggest laughs is the newer RFID keys. You pay extra for that "security" rather than having an old fashioned key on the steering column to start your car. Because these RFID keys are "intelligent" it's now easier to steal cars than it was in the old days when car thieves had to smash the steering columns. All thieves have to do now is drive into your neighborhood with a a special RFID reader and read your electronic "key" from a distance. They create an electronic match and voila, they steal your car. Most of the stolen cars go right to a shipping container where they get shipped overseas. It's a huge black market.

   Yep!  Lose that RFID key, and how much does a replacement cost?  Therein lies the racket!/color]
"They have the guns and therefore we are for peace and for reformation through the ballot. When we have the guns, then it will be through the bullet"      (Saul Alinsky) ...hero of the left..

Offline Doublebass73

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (46)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4579
Re: No way!!!
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2021, 02:13:15 AM »
Most people forget to consider the
high cost of repairs for all that gadgetry.

That's why I'm still driving cars made in 2005. I have a 2005 Jeep Wrangler with crank windows, no ABS and no gadgets with 282K miles on it. I also have a 2005 Grand Marquis with no gadgets. I can't get interested in newer vehicles with gadgets I don't want or need and don't want to pay the silly prices they want. I wish a car manufacturer would come out with an affordable vehicle with the bare minimum of options, that has to be a huge untapped market because I'm not the only one who feels that way.

One of the gadgets that gives me the biggest laughs is the newer RFID keys. You pay extra for that "security" rather than having an old fashioned key on the steering column to start your car. Because these RFID keys are "intelligent" it's now easier to steal cars than it was in the old days when car thieves had to smash the steering columns. All thieves have to do now is drive into your neighborhood with a a special RFID reader and read your electronic "key" from a distance. They create an electronic match and voila, they steal your car. Most of the stolen cars go right to a shipping container where they get shipped overseas. It's a huge black market.

   Yep!  Lose that RFID key, and how much does a replacement cost?  Therein lies the racket!/color]

Yes, it's one of those wonderful things where you are forced to go to the dealer to get a replacement.
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."

---- William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783

Offline oldandslow

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3962
Re: No way!!!
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2021, 02:40:49 AM »
I started driving a on the farm as soon as I was big enough to reach the pedals. All standard shift back then. In the 73 years that have passed I have never lost my vehicle keys including the RFID one I have now. My Acadia has the same features as billy's and I love them too. It will even dim and brighten your headlights for you if you wish. I consider cruise control to be the best feature to have been added to vehicles.

Offline Lloyd Smale

  • Moderators
  • Trade Count: (32)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 18267
Re: No way!!!
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2021, 07:26:35 AM »
had to get one for my last silverado. Went to the dealer and he said 80 bucks. Wasnt happy but kept my mouth shut. Right up to the point he told me it cost 120 bucks to program it. Found out its a 5 minute job for them. Raised enough hell in the service dept that to shut me up they offered to program it for free. Told them in a not so calm voice that i bought 6 new and 2 used vehicles from them in the last 14 years and i think i gave them enough money and if they wouldnt do it id drive it to the ford dealer and trade it in and never step foot in that place again.
Most people forget to consider the
high cost of repairs for all that gadgetry.

That's why I'm still driving cars made in 2005. I have a 2005 Jeep Wrangler with crank windows, no ABS and no gadgets with 282K miles on it. I also have a 2005 Grand Marquis with no gadgets. I can't get interested in newer vehicles with gadgets I don't want or need and don't want to pay the silly prices they want. I wish a car manufacturer would come out with an affordable vehicle with the bare minimum of options, that has to be a huge untapped market because I'm not the only one who feels that way.

One of the gadgets that gives me the biggest laughs is the newer RFID keys. You pay extra for that "security" rather than having an old fashioned key on the steering column to start your car. Because these RFID keys are "intelligent" it's now easier to steal cars than it was in the old days when car thieves had to smash the steering columns. All thieves have to do now is drive into your neighborhood with a a special RFID reader and read your electronic "key" from a distance. They create an electronic match and voila, they steal your car. Most of the stolen cars go right to a shipping container where they get shipped overseas. It's a huge black market.

   Yep!  Lose that RFID key, and how much does a replacement cost?  Therein lies the racket!/color]
blue lives matter

Offline Ranger99

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9581
Re: No way!!!
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2021, 11:16:05 AM »
I have several "chip" keys for my truck.
Not that I've ever lost a key, because I
never have.  I feel it's just prudent to
have an immediately available replacement.
Way better than putting a halt to your
activities so you can spend a day having
a replacement made.
18 MINUTES.  . . . . . .