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Offline nw_hunter

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Gun Violence and other misused terms
« on: May 19, 2021, 07:41:18 AM »
Two terms we hear all politicians use repeatedly are Gun violence, and Democracy.
There is NO such thing as GUN violence. People can be violent. Guns are objects. They cannot act on their own. I'm tired of hearing the media and all politicians referring to the United States Of America as a Democracy.
 The United States is more accurately defined as a constitutional federal republic, but you never hear them mention the US being a Republic. Why is this?
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Re: Gun Violence and other misused terms
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2021, 08:05:03 AM »
Doesn't fit the narrative that our ancesters propogated that this is a democracy. Never was intended to be that from the start. Initially only land owners could vote. Actuall it is a representative republic. Gun Violence should be correctly stated as violence committed with a gun.
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Re: Gun Violence and other misused terms
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2021, 10:10:18 AM »
Well, I don't think anybody here needs their minds changed so far.
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Re: Gun Violence and other misused terms
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2021, 11:27:04 AM »
I noticed sometime back on
one of the movie Cds I watched
where it had the warnings at the
front. One was "WARNING- WESTERN
VIOLENCE "
What in the world is western violence
supposed to be, and is it different from
a pirate movie that might be called
"NAUTICAL VIOLENCE "? Or would "Alien " be
considered " SPACE VIOLENCE "?
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Re: Gun Violence and other misused terms
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2021, 11:59:58 AM »
Quote from: gene_225 on May 19, 2021, 08:05:03 AM
Doesn't fit the narrative that our ancesters propogated that this is a democracy. Never was intended to be that from the start. Initially only land owners could vote. Actuall it is a representative republic. Gun Violence should be correctly stated as violence committed with a gun.

Bet if We went back to Only Land Owners being able to Vote, Things would get a lot better....

I got a Rem. 600 350mag and a Encore 500 S&W that are both pretty darn Violent...
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Re: Gun Violence and other misused terms
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2021, 12:02:38 PM »
Funny how you never hear the terms "knife violence" or "baseball bat violence" from politicians.
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Re: Gun Violence and other misused terms
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2021, 01:08:35 PM »
I'm sick of the term gun violence too. When you think about it, its such a stupid term. Yet politicians, the media, and I have even heard gun owners use the term. "Gun Violence" one of the most stupid terms I have ever heard, and its used regularly, by ignorant people. .

I remember years ago when Constitutional republic was used to describe our form of government, but certainly no more. I guess if you think about it our Constitutional Republic is being taken apart, and mob rule is taking over.
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Re: Gun Violence and other misused terms
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2021, 01:36:34 PM »
Perhaps you and I can begin saying "violence committed with a gun" or "violence committed with a bat" or "violence committed with a knife" or "violence committed with _________".  A bit clunky, but precise.
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2021, 02:16:29 PM »
Usually when the left lists the "gun related deaths", they do not take out suicides, legally killed by cops, and legal kills in self defense.  Suicides by guns are not out of sinc with other nations who have gun control.  Japan has a higher suicide rate than the US.  So does Russia and a lot of the former eastern European nations.  Most do not use guns in these other countries but still have a higher rate than the US. 

Another thing is if you take out the 5 largest cities with the highest murder rate in the US, the US would have one of the lowest murder rates in the world.  Then the 5 largest cities with the highest murder rate could isolate the murders in certain sections of their city.  Hmm. 
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Re: Gun Violence and other misused terms
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2021, 03:31:43 PM »
Another gripe.....People calling a Man or Woman who after years of being one or the other, decide to change their sex, and want to be called John or Joan. Even Conservative hosts will call Bruce Jenner (Kaitlin). Morons!! What if a talking dog told you, it was now a cat.  To get it's attention would you say.......Here Kitty, Kitty? "LOOK" Everybody knows a Horse is a Horse.....Unless it's Mr Ed.
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Re: Gun Violence and other misused terms
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2021, 03:46:26 PM »
When my kids were younger and  beginning to experience the world's disappointments, they would ask me why.
I got into the habit of saying: You can put collar on a coyote, and name him "Spot", but he'll still steal your chickens.

About 3 years ago my oldest son who is now pushin 50, asked me where I first heard that saying. I told him I heard it the first time I said it to him.
It was my way of saying, it is what it is, regardless of how you want it to be.
He told me it used to frustrate him when I told him that, but it was always the truth, and still is.

Reality always trumps ideology.
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Re: Gun Violence and other misused terms
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2021, 12:32:48 AM »
Quote from: Dee on May 19, 2021, 03:46:26 PM
You can put collar on a coyote, and name him "Spot", but he'll still steal your chickens.

Don't think I have ever heard that Phrase, but its a good one.
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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2021, 01:39:55 AM »
Yeah,  I made it up 40+ years ago splainin little disappointments to my now grown kids.
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