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Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« on: May 22, 2021, 02:27:41 AM »
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  Perhaps it is more what either group does NOT do.  Surely, nobody would expect us to favor the acts listed below
  Plus,
  1) honor killings of wives and teenage girls.

  2) Attacking people of other faiths, on public streets & sidewalks
 
  3) Destroying crosses, and Burning churches and synagogues

  4) Defacing/destroying historical/archaeological treasures, worldwide

  5) Dancing in the streets of New Jersey, at the sight of the WTC burning

  6) Enacting Sharia laws in American cities.

  7) stoning women to death, because their ankle showed

  8) Tossing homosexuals off tall structures

    ...And Jews don't dig tunnels into Gaza..  Who the  &*^$ would want to go there anyway ?
   
     Yes, perhaps the majority of Muslims are not in favor of such action.  However, if they want to gain credibility, they ought to clean up their own house (and mosques) ...
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Re: Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2021, 02:44:42 AM »
American leftists love Muslims, they're a preferred protected class even though they hate gay people and anyone who is not like them.
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Re: Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2021, 03:20:36 AM »
American leftists love Muslims, they're a preferred protected class even though they hate gay people and anyone who is not like them.

  Even though they mutilate women.

  Make them dress in double feed sacks.

   Make them wear Covid face masks all their lives.  (but perhaps this does not "offend" the left!)

  Despite the fact that virtually any existing SLAVERY today, is by living Muslim design.

  Abortion is forbidden.

  The lifestyles of almost 100% of leftists are totally anti-Islamic.

 Hollywood bikinis, would get an Afghan woman a death sentence.

   Do these Democ-rat lefties know their donkey from a hole in the ground ?
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2021, 03:24:21 AM »
“    Do these Democ-rat lefties know their donkey from a hole in the ground ?”


Nope.

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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2021, 04:59:17 AM »
American leftists love Muslims, they're a preferred protected class even though they hate gay people and anyone who is not like them.

I agree. Look how many of them are getting voted into office. It isn't just Muslims doing that.
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Re: Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2021, 05:26:07 AM »
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   Frankly, I believe spiritual forces are moving, and we see it reflected in our country.  Left divided from the right.  Never has the divide been so clear cut..
  Pro constitution....anti constitution
  Pro life.                                  ...anti life
  Pro decency..                          ..anti decency
   Pro Christianity..                      ..anti Christianity
   Pro honest gender identity..       ..anything goes
   Pro law & order..                         ... Generates riots
   Pro individual freedom..                ...favors 'group think"..which answers to "authorities".
   Pro clean living...                           .. for illicit drug
   Dislikes racism...                           ...all in for racism
   Condemns terrorists...                  Praises terrorists
 
    There are but 2 real spiritual forces in this world, that of God and that of Satan..  Today the rad left is promoting absolute confusion....

   "  33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints. (1 Cor 14:33)
 
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Re: Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2021, 06:18:58 AM »
WHY??. For me, because Jews are God's people, muslims don't believe in God, they belong to satan. Simple enough.  ;D ;D
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Re: Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2021, 12:08:14 AM »
It is Joe Public's "practice" to have someone to hate...a bad man (or group) on whom to beat when life suks.

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Re: Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2021, 04:08:46 AM »
It is Joe Public's "practice" to have someone to hate...a bad man (or group) on whom to beat when life suks.


  Yep! Sadly, some when frustrated, will kick their dog, or kill a cat...but there are others who want human victims.
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Re: Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2021, 07:41:07 AM »
It is Joe Public's "practice" to have someone to hate...a bad man (or group) on whom to beat when life suks.

I'm with you! I've known a lot of good Muslims, Jews, Mormons, Buddhists and Christians etc.. A few bad here and there but because of the demographics I've known more bad jack Christian. God wrote the knowledge of good and evil in every man's heart (women too).  For those who don't understand biblical history, the Muslims come from the same roots as the Jews, They're were both children of Abraham.

Talk about extremists ..ok, terrorists, kill them foreign or domestic, an every day Joe you don't know or Politian you don't agree with agree with, debate, vote against or legally oppose, but research the subject well and know your who your adversary really is. Read Sung su "The Art of War" (a brilliant Chinees General). Don't clump everyone together (stereotype). If you don't do your research you will be ill equipped for the battle and it might make you look like a stupid redneck ;) 

By the way I'm a blue collar, conservative, Catholic Christian, Republican, Boy Scout Leader, US Veteran, hunter and card carrying member of the NRA and I disagree with over generalized hate mongering stereotypes.

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Re: Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2021, 08:50:49 AM »
By the way I'm a blue collar, conservative, Catholic Christian, Republican, Boy Scout Leader, US Veteran, hunter and card carrying member of the NRA and I disagree with over generalized hate mongering stereotypes.

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Re: Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2021, 09:30:40 AM »
The Muslim religion is what it is. I don't trust the religion. But then again there are several religions I don't trust in different ways than the Muslim.
So Jews vs muslims isn't a good comparison in my personal view.

The Muslim religion is convert or physically die. Never turn your back on a Muslim.
The Jewish religion (Judaism) is a die twice religion. I can get along with a jew.
That goes for most other religions i consider non Christian that I'm familiar with.
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Re: Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2021, 10:56:53 AM »
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  Ishmael and Isaac..the great separation point !
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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2021, 11:05:59 AM »
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  Ishmael and Isaac..the great separation point !

  Here is a common debate, considering current events, a nice, short..15minute primer on the subject, as explained by authorities from both sides..

  The big mistake by the then fading, Ottoman Empire (headquarters Turkey), was to choose the wrong side during WW1..which finished it off.

   Then to cap it off, Muslim forces sided with Hitler during WW2, likely because of their shared hatred.

  Save it & view later..a great, concise and succinct history.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ijyyy-Mowk
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Re: Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2021, 07:48:01 AM »
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American leftists love Muslims, they're a preferred protected class even though they hate gay people and anyone who is not like them.
That is an overstatement. No doubt there are American leftists who are overfond of Muslims; to say, however,  that anyone who is left of where you are loves Muslims is inaccurate at best.

The comment about Muslims siding with the Nazis during WW2 needs to be fleshed out a bit. There are/were large Muslim populations all over the world. To what ”forces” did that comment refer?

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Re: Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2021, 09:28:17 AM »
There are no communities under Sharia law in the USA.

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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2021, 10:09:34 AM »
There are no communities under Sharia law in the USA.

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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2021, 12:08:33 PM »
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American leftists love Muslims, they're a preferred protected class even though they hate gay people and anyone who is not like them.
That is an overstatement. No doubt there are American leftists who are overfond of Muslims; to say, however,  that anyone who is left of where you are loves Muslims is inaccurate at best.

The comment about Muslims siding with the Nazis during WW2 needs to be fleshed out a bit. There are/were large Muslim populations all over the world. To what ”forces” did that comment refer?

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZWeIrLuEww

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot30yRK7YM8

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yels8D292Gk
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Re: Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2021, 12:23:04 PM »
The Radical Muslims want to Kill You and Your Children...

The Mainstream Muslims, want the Radical Muslims to Kill You and Your Children...

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Re: Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2021, 12:27:03 PM »
I think being a stupid redneck, that 1 out of 100 Muslims will cut your head off, the other 99 will celebrate even if unbeknownst to others...

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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2021, 12:44:15 PM »
I think being a stupid redneck, that 1 out of 100 Muslims will cut your head off, the other 99 will celebrate even if unbeknownst to others...

MULE. AGREED SIR. My biggest gripe about that evil cult is that EVERY convert to islam is a soul lost to SATAN himself. CHARLIE.  >:( >:(
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Re: Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2021, 03:47:38 PM »
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American leftists love Muslims, they're a preferred protected class even though they hate gay people and anyone who is not like them.
That is an overstatement. No doubt there are American leftists who are overfond of Muslims; to say, however,  that anyone who is left of where you are loves Muslims is inaccurate at best.


Wrong. Show me some American leftists who are critical of Muslims. Also, you're being inaccurate yourself by claiming I said anyone who is to the left of me loves Muslims. Where did I say that?
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Re: Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2021, 11:19:19 PM »
DB: where did you say that? When you wrote ”American leftists love Muslims.”
As written ”American leftist” lacks any qualification and therefore refers to All and any ALs.
Leftist is an indeterminate term. You are not a leftist. So who is? Anyone who is not as ”right”(or further right) as you is ”left” of you and so a leftist.

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Re: Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2021, 11:38:35 PM »
Sharia law in Dearborn?
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No, Dearborn, Michigan Is Not Under Sharia Law
A "joke" article proclaiming that Dearborn, Michigan voted to impose Sharia — or Islamic — law on its residents prompted so many angry calls to Dearborn officials this week that the city had to issue a statement denying it.
from ”The Atlantic” 10/30/2013
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For years, there’s been an absolutely stupid rumor that the Detroit suburb of Dearborn, birthplace of Henry Ford, is now under extreme Muslim Sharia law.

Sharron Angle, a bizarrely ignorant Tea Party candidate, claimed this was so when she was running for the U.S. Senate in Nevada five years ago.
Michigan Radio 1/28/2015

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« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2021, 12:14:01 AM »
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   Some time ago, right here on GBO, I offered a term, "Rad Left", simply a contraction of 'radical leftist'.
 
  Allow me to clarify....  It appears that until now, the American political scene carried Left and right, which simply meant basically, either Liberal or Conservative, derived of course from the physical composition of the English houses of parliament, liberals on the left, conservatives on the right, as viewed from the front.
 
  However, in recent years the left seems to have divided, to the point where we find.....

   A) The old time liberal, with whom we disagree...but respects the US Constitution, and will debate the issues with conservatives (e.g. Prof Alan Dershowitz and former Sen. Ford (D-TN)).

  B) The  new left, or Rad Left..which shows every evidence of despising our constitution, refuses to debate the issues, (for obvious reasons).
   Instead of reasoning, they want to forcefully shut down any who disagrees, and have adopted the 'mob rule' activities of the Marxist pattern. In fact they quite obviously have adopted the Marxist/Communist  ideals..if they can be called that.  (e.g. , the BLM, the statue topplers, the downtown arsonists, the 'dividers by race'/ethnicity, etc, police attackers & defunders along with the rioters who continue..even to last evening.

       Perhaps rather than Rad Left, if neo-left may fits your description better, that's fine.  ...But there is no denying a huge division has come about..people seemingly following Saul Alinsky's evil advice.

  Personally, I see the current unrest not so much a political problem as a spiritual infestation.

     You may disagree, but being a conservative, I still respect your right to do so.

  BTW: did you view the videos I provided yesterday?
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Re: Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2021, 01:06:24 AM »
IG: Yes, i did look at the videos. In all three cases, the operating principle seems to have been “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. At the time, except for the Grand Mufti, those forces saw the choice was between Hitler or Stalin. The years since the War have provided a much more detailed picture of both Stalin and Hitler....two of the greatest killers in history. At the time, though, the full picture of Hitler was yet to be developed. What they saw was that Stalin was killing them, Hitler was not.
The Mufti....a good illustration of the ill feeling that existed between Musilms and Jews long before the state of Israel wax created. The Mufti turned to Hitler just as Chaim Weizmann in Britain had lobbied for a Zionist homeland and helped produce the Balfour Declaration creating the British Mandate in Palestine.

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« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2021, 01:37:16 AM »
IG: Yes, i did look at the videos. In all three cases, the operating principle seems to have been “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. At the time, except for the Grand Mufti, those forces saw the choice was between Hitler or Stalin. The years since the War have provided a much more detailed picture of both Stalin and Hitler....two of the greatest killers in history. At the time, though, the full picture of Hitler was yet to be developed. What they saw was that Stalin was killing them, Hitler was not.
The Mufti....a good illustration of the ill feeling that existed between Musilms and Jews long before the state of Israel wax created. The Mufti turned to Hitler just as Chaim Weizmann in Britain had lobbied for a Zionist homeland and helped produce the Balfour Declaration creating the British Mandate in Palestine.

   I agree that the motivating factor may have been the ingrained hatred of Jews, but that is only in keeping with the prophecies of the Bible.  However, I found no record of the Muslims deserting the Nazis, once their outrageous conduct was exposed.

In any case, the poor choice of backing the wrong side, came home to roost as the Ottoman Empire collapsed.  ..Much like the Mohawks of NY State, after the Revolutionary War.

  We see every day, how 'chioices' can make or break any person or people.
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Re: Why do many Americans tend to favor Jews over Muslims?
« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2021, 02:07:40 AM »
IG: Yes, i did look at the videos. In all three cases, the operating principle seems to have been “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. At the time, except for the Grand Mufti, those forces saw the choice was between Hitler or Stalin. The years since the War have provided a much more detailed picture of both Stalin and Hitler....two of the greatest killers in history. At the time, though, the full picture of Hitler was yet to be developed. What they saw was that Stalin was killing them, Hitler was not.
The Mufti....a good illustration of the ill feeling that existed between Musilms and Jews long before the state of Israel wax created. The Mufti turned to Hitler just as Chaim Weizmann in Britain had lobbied for a Zionist homeland and helped produce the Balfour Declaration creating the British Mandate in Palestine.

   I agree that the motivating factor may have been the ingrained hatred of Jews, but that is only in keeping with the prophecies of the Bible.  However, I found no record of the Muslims deserting the Nazis, once their outrageous conduct was exposed.

In any case, the poor choice of backing the wrong side, came home to roost as the Ottoman Empire collapsed.  ..Much like the Mohawks of NY State, after the Revolutionary War.

  We see every day, how 'chioices' can make or break any person or people.
iG: you are kinda “mixing” two wars there. The Grand Mufti approached Hitler. The collapse of the Ottoman Empire was a function WWI.
I suspect that knowledge of the outrageous conduct of the Nazis was not readily available to the forces from Turkestan.
In any case, there was not much left of the Nazis after VE Day. And they still had to face Stalin.

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« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2021, 02:18:15 AM »
DB: where did you say that? When you wrote ”American leftists love Muslims.”
As written ”American leftist” lacks any qualification and therefore refers to All and any ALs.
Leftist is an indeterminate term. You are not a leftist. So who is? Anyone who is not as ”right”(or further right) as you is ”left” of you and so a leftist.

Now we're getting into what the definition of "is" is Mr. Clinton.

You know as well as anyone that a leftist is someone on the far left. My father is to the left of me but he is far from a leftist.

So now that we have leftist defined show me someone on the far left that doesn't love Muslims or is critical of Muslims.
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« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2021, 04:32:30 AM »
IG: Yes, i did look at the videos. In all three cases, the operating principle seems to have been “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. At the time, except for the Grand Mufti, those forces saw the choice was between Hitler or Stalin. The years since the War have provided a much more detailed picture of both Stalin and Hitler....two of the greatest killers in history. At the time, though, the full picture of Hitler was yet to be developed. What they saw was that Stalin was killing them, Hitler was not.
The Mufti....a good illustration of the ill feeling that existed between Musilms and Jews long before the state of Israel wax created. The Mufti turned to Hitler just as Chaim Weizmann in Britain had lobbied for a Zionist homeland and helped produce the Balfour Declaration creating the British Mandate in Palestine.

   I agree that the motivating factor may have been the ingrained hatred of Jews, but that is only in keeping with the prophecies of the Bible.  However, I found no record of the Muslims deserting the Nazis, once their outrageous conduct was exposed.

In any case, the poor choice of backing the wrong side, came home to roost as the Ottoman Empire collapsed.  ..Much like the Mohawks of NY State, after the Revolutionary War.

  We see every day, how 'chioices' can make or break any person or people.
iG: you are kinda “mixing” two wars there. The Grand Mufti approached Hitler. The collapse of the Ottoman Empire was a function WWI.
I suspect that knowledge of the outrageous conduct of the Nazis was not readily available to the forces from Turkestan.
In any case, there was not much left of the Nazis after VE Day. And they still had to face Stalin.

  Not confusing two wars..  obviously the kaiser had no connection to Nazism, but WW1 was mentioned only to illustrate that the Ottomans chose the wrong side, when they opted for the Austro-Hungarian combine.  Then they erred again as they chose the tripartite pact of WW2.

  ..Bad choices can ruin lives, and they can ruin empires as well.

   We are about to find that out, if today's left succeeds.
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