FORDS 2022 compact Maverick pickup

[Ranger99]

Very sad can't Ford come up with a new name other than Maverick.. . .

I would imagine the copyright for
the name is sewed up and ironclad,
so they probably wanted to use it
They've already used Ranger twice
for 2 completely different vehicles,
so they probably wanted to give
that a rest

[Capt Danger]

Very sad can't Ford come up with a new name other than Maverick. I had a Real Maverick in the 70's put a 318 in it hot rodded it for yrs then when it started to rust apart we pulled the motor put it in my buddies 150 and he used it in his wood gettin truck for another 25 yrs. Kurt

Those old pintos and mavericks were real peppy with the V8's. I used to work on them back in my college days. They were a real cheap used car for college kids. Being the only guy with his own wrenches made me real popular.

[Doublebass73]

  The chip shortage is about over, the plant in Japan that makes them is back up to 100%, and there are still some less popular NEW trucks on the lot.  I saw three single cabs sitting at a Chevy dealer a couple days ago...

  Folks want their trucks "yuppied" up quite a bit more than mine is, so the trucks sit longer...

  DM

Going to be a while yet.  The automakers don't have them and they are way behind on manufacturing and demand is high.  I'm guessing it'll be nearly a year before things are back to normal.

X2 The chip shortage is still going strong. My work computer has been acting up for over a year. I put in for a new computer almost a year ago and I just got one last week. They can't get the Dells that we use for our CAD software because of the chip shortage. The only reason I got a computer was because my company sold off a sister division and I was able to get one of their computers.

[Lloyd Smale]

sure that wasnt a 302 or 289. 318 is a Chrysler motor. they actually made maverick grabbers back them with lame 302s in the. By that time they were so spangled by epa standards that they probably didnt put out much over a 150hp. Remember a guy i was stationed with went home and came back with a brand new mustang cobra with a 302 that put out a whopping 155 hp if memory served. It was an auto and wouldnt even spin the tires unless you started in dirt. That was fords top end muscle that year. Yup the good old days. Im with Drilling man. you can have the "good old days" when 150hp cars got 15 mpg and lasted 80k before the motors puked. Thats if you lived in the south. Up here they were rusted out in 5 years. Yup even the toyotas that were about the worse for rusting. THey did however have a better drivetrain. We used to chuckle. 75 percent of the toyotas trucks on the road up here had home made flat beds and out of the other 25 percent 15 still had boxes but were about to fall off on the road. Had a 79 chev that had the drivers side front fender replaced under warrantee for a rust hole. It was only a 12 month warrantee!! Fords back then were no better.About the only truck that didnt rust out were the dodges but the paint fell off of them.

[DDZ]

Thats if you lived in the south. Up here they were rusted out in 5 years. Yup even the toyotas that were about the worse for rusting. THey did however have a better drivetrain. We used to chuckle. 75 percent of the toyotas trucks on the road up here had home made flat beds and out of the other 25 percent 15 still had boxes but were about to fall off on the road. Had a 79 chev that had the drivers side front fender replaced under warrantee for a rust hole. It was only a 12 month warrantee!! Fords back then were no better.About the only truck that didn't rust out were the dodges but the paint fell off of them.

Isn't that the truth. I also had a 79 Chevy 6 foot bed pickup. I liked the truck. It was maroon and silver. Not long after I had it I was washing it at a car wash and just the pressure from the sprayer nozzle started blowing the silver paint off the bottom under the doors.  took it back to the dealer and they did a crap job at painting it. It didn't even match. they did it again. It matched better, but still not a match. Then not long after that the truck started rusting. I bought after market fenders and replaced them. Bought a wrecked 84, and used the doors from it and the bed. At that time a bed was going for $700.  Yes the 70's trucks rusted badly.

I remember my buddy bought a 78 F-250 with a 351 4 speed that had 4:10 rears.  I think he put bigger tires on it.  It got 8 mpg. It rusted too.

My dad had a 70 bronco with a 302, that I think was 205HP Had a 3 speed on the column. Not sure what the rear gears were but it would burn tire and get a chirp in second. It was a good running motor, but I never saw a vehicle rust as bad as that bronco did.   

[Lloyd Smale]

looks like others are comparing it to the honda and the honda whipped it in about every category https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autos-trucks/spec-check-2022-ford-maverick-vs-2021-honda-ridgeline/ar-AAKXngN

[Doublebass73]

Almost every American car or truck made in the 70's had serious rot issues. Many of them had great drivetrains but the rot took them before their time. I had a '76 Olds Cutlass with a gutless 260 V8 that was smogged out. I think it had 110 hp lol. It was one of the most reliable cars I've ever owned though. It averaged 19 mpg which was phenomenal by 70's standards. It had the worst rot issues though, it was insane. It got to the point where I would have to put huge sheet metal patches in every year to pass inspection. I ran that car to 250K miles and sold it still running and saw the new owner driving it for quite a while afterwards.

[Ranger99]

Those old pintos and mavericks were real peppy with the V8's. . . . .

We made a few of the V8 Pinto conversions.
A mild 302 was about the limit as far as usable
horsepower and traction. The last one was a
351 and it was fairly useless. Trying to get any
traction was an exercise in futility

[Lloyd Smale]

Almost every American car or truck made in the 70's had serious rot issues. Many of them had great drivetrains but the rot took them before their time. I had a '76 Olds Cutlass with a gutless 260 V8 that was smogged out. I think it had 110 hp lol. It was one of the most reliable cars I've ever owned though. It averaged 19 mpg which was phenomenal by 70's standards. It had the worst rot issues though, it was insane. It got to the point where I would have to put huge sheet metal patches in every year to pass inspection. I ran that car to 250K miles and sold it still running and saw the new owner driving it for quite a while afterwards.

my dad had the same year and motor cutlass and he says to this day it was his favorite car before the fuel injected 3.8s came out.

[Lloyd Smale]

never fooled with pintos or even fords but helped two differnt guys build small block chev vegas. there used to be kits with everything you needed other then the drive train. 

Those old pintos and mavericks were real peppy with the V8's. . . . .

We made a few of the V8 Pinto conversions.
A mild 302 was about the limit as far as usable
horsepower and traction. The last one was a
351 and it was fairly useless. Trying to get any
traction was an exercise in futility

[PHATINJUN]

Lloyd you are correct I mispoke it was a 300 6cyl the 318 I had was a Plymouth Satelite the 302 Bronco 2 I had was a off road terror til I tipped it on it's roof hauling a load of sand on a trailer. My bad. Kurt

[ironglows]

Really can't go by Ford Chevy and Dodge being American made anymore. Honda and Acura actually have the most vehicles that are in the top 10 American made car index.  Everyone thinks that since the Ford F-150 is the number one selling truck that its American made. When actually it is around 13th on the American made car index, because so many of its parts are made in other countries.   
I have a friend that always ribbed me for buying a Japanese made car compared to a so called American made car.  He had bought a new dodge pickup one year, so I had him look at the vin number to see where his truck was built. It was built in Mexico. 
   
In the first quarter of 2020,  50.1% of subarus bought here were built here.  GM on the other hand, had 48.4% of the cars bought here, that were built here.  The Outback I own was built in Lafayette Indiana.  So no such thing as Ford, GM, and Dodge, being actually American made anymore.

    Sometimes things are not as they seem....

   Interesting to note, Tesla has 2 of the top 3 on the "most American made" list.  Scroll down to see the list.

  https://electrek.co/2021/06/23/tesla-top-3-most-american-made-cars/

   My goodness; the Mustang, Cherokee and Corvette look almost out of place there.

[Ranger99]

never fooled with pintos or even fords but helped two differnt guys build small block chev vegas. there used to be kits with everything you needed other then the drive train

Hooker Headers sold both kits
Buddy of mine built a Vega wagon
with a 302 powerglide

[Lloyd Smale]

if your talking the chev 302 thats an odd combo. It was a very high reving motor that didnt make much low end torque. it made its power up top. Not a real good match for a powerglide. But lots of them were built cheaply with whatever guys had. Id love to have that 302 sitting in my garage today though. Its worth a good chunk of change. chev only made them 3 years and didnt make many at that. pretty easy to make your own. its a 327 with a 283 crank with the whole bottom end forged. Problem is finding a forged 283 crank and a 4 bolt main 327 block today. I still remember the sound they made though. There was nothing like hearing a small block on the street hitting 8000rpm.

never fooled with pintos or even fords but helped two differnt guys build small block chev vegas. there used to be kits with everything you needed other then the drive train

Hooker Headers sold both kits
Buddy of mine built a Vega wagon
with a 302 powerglide

[Ranger99]

if your talking the chev 302 thats an odd combo. It was a very high reving motor that didnt make much low end torque. it made its power up top. Not a real good match for a powerglide. But lots of them were built cheaply with whatever guys had. Id love to have that 302 sitting in my garage today though. Its worth a good chunk of change. chev only made them 3 years and didnt make many at that. pretty easy to make your own. its a 327 with a 283 crank with the whole bottom end forged. Problem is finding a forged 283 crank and a 4 bolt main 327 block today. I still remember the sound they made though. There was nothing like hearing a small block on the street hitting 8000rpm.

never fooled with pintos or even fords but helped two differnt guys build small block chev vegas. there used to be kits with everything you needed other then the drive train

Hooker Headers sold both kits
Buddy of mine built a Vega wagon
with a 302 powerglide

The guy that did it already had a
Camaro sitting there with one, so
that's what he used
Back when we were roundy round
racing,  the class still had a 292
CID limit, and it was dang hard finding
usable 283's back then. We made a
couple with destroked 305' s and a
rare 307. Luckily my buddy was a
crankshaft grinder by profession and
had lots of steel 283 and 327 etc
crankshafts.

[Lloyd Smale]

boy back in the 80s and 90s around here you couldnt hardly give away a 307 or 305. They were everywhere and nobody wanted them. Nobody wanted to build them for performace either because they were a realitivly small bore long stroke motor and didnt take to reving well or lasting if you did. I cringe at using a 302 like that but i guess back then who knew they would be so valuable today. How did you race. I guess though in your case one could make a 283 out of one. But even they were fairly easy to find up till about 15 years ago. Buddy still has a brand new 283 block never used sitting in his garage. He was going to use it in the 63 nova convertable he built but decided at the last minute to leave it a 3 on the tree six like it came from chev. Little known fact is chris craft actually made some performance boats that used the chev 302 in them.

[Ranger99]

The 302 vega wagon wasn't for
real racing.  He built that one
for just as a play toy
The racing we did about the same
time frame was dirt limited mod.
and the arcane rules had a 292
CID limit.  We also had to use a
real outside body shell and a frame
as the basis for the car. ( not
like the street stock " junker" class)
I don't know anything about what classes
and rules they have these days.
Surely things have changed to reflect
the scarcity of all that old crap we
had to use back then
Later on we started drag at a local
pos 1/8 mile track in the no electronics
class, but after about a year there were
so few racing the class they quit
having any time for it.  Finally built a
super pro with all the cheat boxes and
went to a real NHRA track and did
that for a while until everybody's
wives put an end to it all

[Lloyd Smale]

my last drag strip visits were with a 70 ss 454 chevelle and a 73 340 duster and neither were more then 5 years old so that kind of tells you what i know about drag racing these days. I would like to run my 392 challenger down one once just to see but theres no tracks near here anymore. Only racing around here anymore is dirt track. 

[Ranger99]

You haven't missed anything
All manners of any kind of
racing competition is all a
matter of how high you can
stack the hundreds.
The last vestige of racing that
depended on a goodly amount
of real skill ( in this area) was
the no-electronics class we ran
for a good while.  It got to be
where everybody either fell back
to street- stock,  or stepped up
and bought a breakout box and
throttle stop and trans brake
and let technology do their
driving.  But once you take that
step it's a genuine money pit,
more so than the other.

I guess it's ok if you're a bored
millionaire that can buy your
way to the prizes

[Lloyd Smale]

we used to bracket race. You ran a time slip run and then when you raced you actually raced against yourself. The one to come closest to is dial in time without going over won. Didnt matter if you had a pro stock race car or your ma's impala station wagon. Only  problem with it is it go frustrating because when you lost you beat yourself! Only other racing i did was street racing. It was almost organized back then for us. We had a strip out on a straight road that there were no homes for 10 miles. The chief of police told us as long as we stayed out there and had spotters to watch for traffic on both sides and no booze he had no problem. Heck most friday nights hed show up himself. He had a 70 ls5 vette that he had done some work on and it did fairly well itself. We had a local air force base at the time and lots of cars came from there. Typical friday night there'd be 30-50 cars show up. Racing was simple. Single elimination. Everyone threw 25 bucks in the pot and the winner took that. But every race had side bets. The good old days. Today youd probably get raided by the state police swat team.