Refering to Trump.

[guzzijohn]

On the old GB site Lloyd is very upset with me for referring to Trump as the "former orange guy" and said I wouldn't dare do that here. Well just a heads up, as you long timers remember I always referred to Trump as Trump and no other derogatory names as was common here referring to Obama when he was president. I did that out if respect for the office. But...Trump is no longer the president so yes if I do respond to a post concerning Trump I probably will refer to him as the the former orange guy as he always used orange colored makeup and he is a former guy. I don't expect any here to like, just saying.
GuzziJohn

[Casull]

Any reason you're hanging around here?  Other than just being a PIA?

[guzzijohn]

Why do I continue here? Why not. If I remember I first posted here in 2011 looking for help with a problem Handi. Got sucked into the political area and the rest is history. It kind of amazes me how much some here go out of their way to avoid hearing a different view point or information source.
GuzziJohn

[Casull]

So, I was right.

[Mule 11]

Well. I have no idea what you are talking about since I have you and your opinion blocked on the quote (other forum). Where should We send the midol to alleviate your pain. Errr discomfort?

[DDZ]

It goes much deeper than just calling Trump the orange man. People that do so hate him and everything he stands for. They hate Trump, they hate America, and they vote for Marxists like Biden, and his Marxist administration.  Every liberal I have seen post on GB in the past, always say well I post in the hunting sections, or gun sections.  As if that makes their political opinion look like an American loving gun owner.  All they are is ignorant people that could care less if politicians like Biden take the other guys AR, SKS, M1, or any other semi auto rifle. They feel their shotgun, and deer rifle are safe. Just keep voting for the guy that wants to suppress liberty, and make them feel all warm and fuzzy.  Guzzi forgets that some of us have read his posts on the other site.

[ironglows]

.
  No need to be concerned with any name-calling efforts against the best president of the 20th and so far 21st century..

                                         Trump                                                         with Biden

     Gasoline                        $1.99                                                      $3.. soon to be  $4

     Foreign relations             US..#1 world power                                         US.. a laughing stock

     Domestic relations          Quiet and respectful                                continuous rioting
                                        except for  few freaks                              encouraged by some politicians

     Economic factor            Energy independent and                            Energy dependent on the mideast
                                         Marketing oil worldwide                               Venezuela and OPEC

     Spiritual                        Respect for people of faith and                        Distain for Christians and
                                            encourages Christians                                 continues abortion holocaust

     primary advisers            Red, white and blue Americans                     Radical Marxists and Islamists

     2nd amendment            Totally in favor and protecting                  Totally against and trying to trash

     Illicit drugs                  Not in favor of usage, since                          not correcting backward states
                                     an addict culture is a weak culture                 that seem to favor addiction

    Prices                         Held firm, gas went down                             Food. clothing up 35%, gas up
                                                                                                         50%, lumber 100%

      Work, jobs                 People back to work, former                        busy handing out 'freebies'!
                                      welfare types taking jobs

    Presidential presesence         Powerful, domineering of                          Has difficulty forming a recognizable
                                              many other leader                                    sentence..universally laughed at

    Cognitive sense                Student of history and                                Cannot hold press conference
                                          accomplished businessman,                      without oversight by team member.
                                        speaks for hours w/o teleprompter               Teleprompter doesn't seem to help.

    Now, that is just for starters, a hundred times more where that came from.

       

                           


     

[Lloyd Smale]

some of the exact issues he tucks his tail between his legs when brought up and just responds by calling trump the orange man. This is the second time you came here and try to use my name to stir the pot. That pal is a personal attack. Ive never came here and asked ANYONE to go over to that other site and give me backup. You crave recognition. Even if it constantly has you making a fool out of yourself.   

.
  No need to be concerned with any name-calling efforts against the best president of the 20th and so far 21st century..

                                         Trump                                                         with Biden

     Gasoline                        $1.99                                                      $3.. soon to be  $4

     Foreign relations             US..#1 world power                                         US.. a laughing stock

     Domestic relations          Quiet and respectful                                continuous rioting
                                        except for  few freaks                              encouraged by some politicians

     Economic factor            Energy independent and                            Energy dependent on the mideast
                                         Marketing oil worldwide                               Venezuela and OPEC

     Spiritual                        Respect for people of faith and                        Distain for Christians and
                                            encourages Christians                                 continues abortion holocaust

     primary advisers            Red, white and blue Americans                     Radical Marxists and Islamists

     2nd amendment            Totally in favor and protecting                  Totally against and trying to trash

     Illicit drugs                  Not in favor of usage, since                          not correcting backward states
                                     an addict culture is a weak culture                 that seem to favor addiction

    Prices                         Held firm, gas went down                             Food. clothing up 35%, gas up
                                                                                                         50%, lumber 100%

      Work, jobs                 People back to work, former                        busy handing out 'freebies'!
                                      welfare types taking jobs

    Presidential presesence         Powerful, domineering of                          Has difficulty forming a recognizable
                                              many other leader                                    sentence..universally laughed at

    Cognitive sense                Student of history and                                Cannot hold press conference
                                          accomplished businessman,                      without oversight by team member.
                                        speaks for hours w/o teleprompter               Teleprompter doesn't seem to help.

    Now, that is just for starters, a hundred times more where that came from.

       

                           


   

[guzzijohn]

Do we want to go down the rabbit hole comparing criminal activity of the former orange guy's administration compared to Obama or any other democratic former president. Only the best....best criminals that is for Trump.
GuzziJohn

[ironglows]

Do we want to go down the rabbit hole comparing criminal activity of the former orange guy's administration compared to Obama or any other democratic former president. Only the best....best criminals that is for Trump.
GuzziJohn

   ABSOLUTELY, LET'S GO !!   
    ...But this time, let's use only proven wrongdoings, not more innuendos from Hillary Clinton and her Russian accusation works partners.
   
   Let's compare things like support of the police and military, support of prosperity, such as the pipelines and the fact that "orange man" in public interest, promoted Hydroxychloroquin to fight the virus gifted us from Hunter's friends in the CCP.

  The same 'Hydroxy' that has now been proven to be effective.  The same Hydroxy that some Demonrat governors forbade to be prescribed to patients..governors who should be facing justice at this moment, for so many lives being needlessly wasted.

  BTW; Hydroxy is harmless to a healthy person but has been proven efficacious to Covid sufferers. ..And at a cost of $ .03 cents per pill !

  Of course, "orange man" is right now, taking free speech oppressors to court, in an effort to preserve the 1st amendment.

  The Demonrats have been  communist best, to dismantle our US Constitution.  They are at this very moment, trying to destroy both the 1st and 2nd amendments.  Are you in favor of that?

   Your photos seem to indicate that you are one of the accursed "white man" group.  Which of course, makes you an "oppressor, a white supremacist, a participant in slavery, an evil person who is not 'worthy' of free speech...yet still owes "reparations".

  I will honor your free speech however, when I ask.... Are you OK with all of that?

  Please note however, that I do not stoop to calling people names, but instead I reference facts.

   BTW; you, having been a teacher..  Are you in favor of the "Criminal Racist Theory" ?

    ...And that CRT reference is not name calling, but simply calling it as I (and millions of others) see it !   



   

[Lloyd Smale]

lets see
1rst amendment squashed
2nd amendment  squashed
religious freedom
abortion
teachers getting almost two years off WITH pay when everyone else is on unemployment
teachers thinking they can tell us how we have to raise our kids and that we have no say over it
Proven acts of voter fraud maybe not enough to change the election but they wont even admit to a single one
Proven that them wasted millions of dollar chasing russian collusion when they absolutely knew it didnt happen
Shutting down a pipe line to force gas prices up to make there new green deal look more attractive
destroying our energy dependence and forcing the biggest spike in the costs of fuel food lumber and everything else
Shutting down that pipe line putting people out of work and letting russia open theres
Letting cuomo and whitmer actually comit murder and pat them on the back
Let cuomo and waters call for riots and stir the blacks to destroy citys and imprison whites that did less
let them insite obvious riots and attack trump who said to march to the capital and not anything else.
Let hunter bidens crimes (and probably his dads too) get swept under the rug
scream for gun control and let hunter who isnt legally allowed a gun to laugh at the laws that are already in place.
Letting russia over and over hack out computers without holding the accountable
Pulling out of Afghanistan and leaving our weapons and equipment behind for the taliban.
throwing away all sanity at the border. letting drugs drug dealers, criminals, the cartels free rein allowing hundreds of thousands of people in that have no incomes that us tax payers  now have to support with our tax money
Making a covid relief package that addresses about everything but covid
Force electric cars on us with an infistructure in such poor shape it cant keep up as is and not a penny targeted at it.
Defunding the police  when crime is skyrocketing and then trying to lie there way out of it blaming the republicans
Send federal agents to chicago using our tax dollars when the mayor wants to defund her own RACISTS police.
I can go on and on and on. Just pick a couple and lets go!!!!!! A blind man can see the shape this country is in today compared to the prosperous days we had 3 years ago. Now the citys arent even safe to walk in. People are murdering other people just becuase they know they wont have to answer for it. Whites are blamed for everything thats wrong by the left and there isnt a single fact that backs it up. We are called bigots by the most predudiced bunch of sobs ever in the history of this country running it. They have all but sparked an all out race war just to get votes. Lead by a president that cant complete a sentence even if hes reading it right off the cheat cards hes not allowed to leave home without. Cant even speak without putting his foot in his mouth with ear buds in his ear a prompter screen in front of him telling him what to say and a pile of papers with answers to questions that have been handed out to select liberal news reporters. But the man can eat an ice cream cone!! sorry guzzi even your liberal socialist friend know hes not running the country. They also know harris is a complete joke that was just put there because of her skin color. We know its pelosi and shumer who are really leading this country with the help of wack jobs like aoc and sanders, and waters. Yup you socialist are doing a FINE job. Now you can pick a few of these to defend or even post some good things that administration has done for this country to make it a better place for us middle class people. Good luck with that.

[VA Rifleman]

Guzzi.... you're not expressing a point of view when you refuse to engage in topics you bring up.

Good observation TM7.  Rush used to call this MO “drive-by’s”

Somewhat baffling is Guzzi’s assertion of Biden’s superior mental capacity vs Trumps. Only one problem. Gas Lighting only works with easily swayed people who disbelieve their own eyes and experience.

Perhaps it’s time for Guzzi to change up and add a virtue signal.

[powderman]

Since Guzzi is a good guy, I might as well pile on Guzzi, too. When I look at his MO, which is to start an issue and then sit back and observe what transpires; it leads me to believe he's collecting information and data on grass root nationalist, GOPers, patriots, religious right, RTBA, etc. which in turn he might feed to his local lefty action committee and reported to leftist think tanks and propagandists. Of course that's just my imagination, but you have to admit GBO is a pretty wide cross section of the traditional right leaning public; and Guzzi being a teacher is most likely political on his local level and up.

Now Guzzi has some relatives or kin of color in his family. As a teacher he's done well for himself,,,nice motorcycles, land owner, glider pilot, not for want and so on..... certainly not begrudging his good fortune. But wouldn't it be ironic and paradoxical if one of his kin gets steeped in CRT and accuses him of "white privilege" excesses.....and unexpected awakenings like that can happen.  If that happens he should check in at GBO and we can advise appropriately.


TM7

TM. I'm  amazed at how much smarter you have gotten as you aged just a tad. Guzzi can't help it if he's always WRONG, he sees everything bassackwards to what rational people do, the dnc specializes in wrong thinking. Guzzi is a follower of and belongs to the party of perversion and death. Slaughtering babies and pervert marriage. CHARLIE. 

[ironglows]

  .
       I see TM as being quite consistent throughout the years. I saythat even though TM and I don't always agree on all points.

  Although I view Guzzi as a fellow who is a nice guy, I see most of his positions as untenable to the truly analytical mind.

  How does anyone who claims hunter-shooter status, even consider voting for the anti 2nd amendment party?

  How does any "Christian" endorse the 'slaughter of the innocents?  "Open your mouth for the speechless, in the cause of all such as are appointed tio destruction."  (Prov 31:

  How does anyone with clear conscience, vote to introduce the system (communism) that has murdered hundreds of millions globally?

  ...And that just for starters..  Perhaps he just prefers to.... "stir up..and then scurry"..

[Lloyd Smale]

  ...And that just for starters..  Perhaps he just prefers to.... "stir up..and then scurry"..

that would be him. hes got a few backers (other socialists) on the other site that try to ban together and cheer each other but not a single one them will argue one on one on the issues. Best you get is "orange man bs" and links they copy and pasted from FAR left websites. Some here may think him harmless or on the line but in fact him and one of the others over there are king of the socialists. I wouldnt dont for a minute that other one is a plant (petro) guzzi? I dont know if hes a plant but id about bet my house he goes to his liberal sites laughing at us here and letting everyone know this place is here so they all can watch and hes there in every one of petros posts cheering him on
. Doesnt much bother me because even though some here may not like me i dont think theres a single one here that wont say i were it on my sleeve and dont give a rip what others think.

[Dixie-Dude]

I do not see how any normal Christian could vote democrat ever again.  The party has been taken over by Communists.  They are using all the communist tactics of destroying the family, destroying the culture, tearing down statues, rewriting history, pushing children against parents, encouraging deviant behavior as normal.  Replacing all this with big government who can "solve all the problems" that they created. 

Passive republicans, aka rinos, don't even understand what is happening.  This democrat party is not the party of old that would work with the GOP on compromise bills to solve real problems. 

[Lloyd Smale]

truth is REAL Christians dont. Its only the posers that are Christian on sunday for an hour and spend that time day dreaming. Or the cultists that belong to churches that twist the bible into something that fits there agenda and actually go so far as to condone abortion and homosexuality. Some who even have homosexual pastors!! i believe God has a special place for those hypocrites. Hell is to good for them. but make no mistake you cannot be a democtrat today and be a Christain. Just like no matter how hard they try to push there agenda. A man is a man and a women is a women. You can cut off or add to anything you want but God made you what you are.

I do not see how any normal Christian could vote democrat ever again.  The party has been taken over by Communists.  They are using all the communist tactics of destroying the family, destroying the culture, tearing down statues, rewriting history, pushing children against parents, encouraging deviant behavior as normal.  Replacing all this with big government who can "solve all the problems" that they created. 

Passive republicans, aka rinos, don't even understand what is happening.  This democrat party is not the party of old that would work with the GOP on compromise bills to solve real problems.

[powderman]

truth is REAL Christians dont. Its only the posers that are Christian on sunday for an hour and spend that time day dreaming. Or the cultists that belong to churches that twist the bible into something that fits there agenda and actually go so far as to condone abortion and homosexuality. Some who even have homosexual pastors!! i believe God has a special place for those hypocrites. Hell is to good for them. but make no mistake you cannot be a democtrat today and be a Christain. Just like no matter how hard they try to push there agenda. A man is a man and a women is a women. You can cut off or add to anything you want but God made you what you are.

I do not see how any normal Christian could vote democrat ever again.  The party has been taken over by Communists.  They are using all the communist tactics of destroying the family, destroying the culture, tearing down statues, rewriting history, pushing children against parents, encouraging deviant behavior as normal.  Replacing all this with big government who can "solve all the problems" that they created. 

Passive republicans, aka rinos, don't even understand what is happening.  This democrat party is not the party of old that would work with the GOP on compromise bills to solve real problems.

LLOYD. Well said Sir. CHARLIE. 

[Lloyd Smale]

its ok guys. hes back over at the other forum already and had another orange man comment on his first post. I think he at least knows hes not welcome here. I know most of you dont go over there anymore but i still enjoy making those two idiots look like the fools they are. Over there the moderators dont seem to care what trash is posting. Either that or for some reason there afraid of them. Just as long as they dont spoil this place and i know bill will never let it happen. I really think he came here thinking his political views were ok with the guys here. Thats how dumb the guy is. They sure dont teach common sense in the college he went to and probably didnt push it to much on the students he taught. Wonder how many minds he poisoned.

[guzzijohn]

From Lloyd:

I really think he came here thinking his political views were ok with the guys here.

Lloyd you do not speak for everyone on this board, maybe many but not all. I don't really expect to change minds here but hope to make a few think things through a bit more and some have going by some of the PMs I have received over the years. It is good to hear differing views not live in a bubble.
I have interacted with people here for over 10 years, some even appear to enjoy my banter at times. You have become the poster child for insults and personal attacks on both boards although you whine like a little school girl if you even have a slight delusion of being attacked. Typical of one that loves to dish it out but can't take any of it back.
GuzziJohn

[Mule 11]

Referring to President Trump. An American icon and patriot. Sad that a dropout has a better understanding of the English language than a college educated teacher. Aye?

[guzzijohn]

From Mule11:
Thought you had me blocked?
Speaking of understanding of the English language, here us a quote from Trump when asked during his 2020 what his next four year plan was:

I think, I think it would be, I think it would be very very, I think we would have a very very solid, we would continue what we are doing, and we have other things on our plate.

Now there is someone with the command of the English language and sharp thinking,  LOL!
GuzziJohn

[ironglows]

.
  ...I do't know where that came from, but if you are willing to compare the erudition skills of Biden or Harris,
   with those of Donald Trump...let's have at it !

   The most important thing however...  Whenever President Trump spoke to them, Putin, L'il Kim, chairman Xi and those bomb making experts among the terrorists, clearly understood him !

[Mule 11]

Apparently your conception is lacking. I have you blocked on the other forum as stated. Also stated I don’t know how to block you here. Only a matter of time and I’ll figure it out and won’t have to read your leftist tripe here either...

[Mule 11]

From Mule11:
Thought you had me blocked?
Speaking of understanding of the English language, here us a quote from Trump when asked during his 2020 what his next four year plan was:

I think, I think it would be, I think it would be very very, I think we would have a very very solid, we would continue what we are doing, and we have other things on our plate.

Now there is someone with the command of the English language and sharp thinking,  LOL!
GuzziJohn

So. A man with a lot to say but holds it tight for reasons of national security verses lack of English skills as an educator? Very unimpressive misdirection...

[DDZ]

quote]I think, I think it would be, I think it would be very very, I think we would have a very very solid, we would continue what we are doing, and we have other things on our plate.

Now there is someone with the command of the English language and sharp thinking,  LOL!
GuzziJohn
[/quote]

Do you have a video clip of Trump saying that? Or did you just hear it from one of the American hating news networks?

[guzzijohn]

But so I think, I think it would be, I think it would be very, very, I think we'd have a very, very solid, we would continue what we're doing, we'd solidify what we've done, and we have other things on our plate that we want to get done," Trump told The New York Times' Peter Baker

And don't forget this gem...

In an interview with Fox News' Sean Hannity, Trump offered this up when asked about four more years:

"One of the things that will be really great -- the word experience is still good, I always say talent is more important than experience, I've always said that -- but the word experience is a very important word, a very important meaning.
"I never did this before, never slept over in Washington. I was in Washington maybe 17 times and all of a sudden I'm the President of the United States, you know the story, riding down Pennsylvania Avenue with our first lady and I say this is great but I didn't know very many people in Washington, it wasn't my thing. I was from Manhattan, from New York, and now I know everybody. And I have great people in the administration. You make some mistakes, like an idiot like Bolton, you don't have to drop bombs on everybody."

[ironglows]

But so I think, I think it would be, I think it would be very, very, I think we'd have a very, very solid, we would continue what we're doing, we'd solidify what we've done, and we have other things on our plate that we want to get done," Trump told The New York Times' Peter Baker

And don't forget this gem...

In an interview with Fox News' Sean Hannity, Trump offered this up when asked about four more years:

"One of the things that will be really great -- the word experience is still good, I always say talent is more important than experience, I've always said that -- but the word experience is a very important word, a very important meaning.
"I never did this before, never slept over in Washington. I was in Washington maybe 17 times and all of a sudden I'm the President of the United States, you know the story, riding down Pennsylvania Avenue with our first lady and I say this is great but I didn't know very many people in Washington, it wasn't my thing. I was from Manhattan, from New York, and now I know everybody. And I have great people in the administration. You make some mistakes, like an idiot like Bolton, you don't have to drop bombs on everybody."

   Sorry Guzzi, but I suspect those are leftist constructs, since they in no way sound like examples of the regular Trump or Hannity elocution.

   It would appear more credible if you could furnish some video proof to validate your charges!

   Video proof like this:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNQAbF33gFM

[ironglows]

.
   Can you furnish us a "top 100" gaffe list on either Trump or Hannity?  A list such as this;
   
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJg1g78QGlI

[ironglows]

.
   Sometimes Joe actually get it right!  Below, may have been his most lucid moment thus far;

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxOqbDU3ACg

   Then of course, Cackles has to ask ...'where in the world are we?'