A look into the strange mind of a liberal "Christian" !

[ironglows]

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  It is indeed difficult to understand how a person can get so far off track!  One wonders at the health of his head !

    This writer accuses us of leaving Christianity to become conservatives instead.  He claims WE are completely wrong, because we do not welcome those who try to introduce such things as LGBTQ, abortion, BLM, and other heretical ideas into the church.
 
  He doesn't of course, bring the Bible to bear in an effort to 'prove' his contentions.  How thoroughly confused can one man get?
   Worth a look to get an insight into just how confused leftist mind can be.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/how-evangelicals-abandoned-christianity-and-became-conservatives-instead/ar-AAMgmOm?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

       

[Dee]

"Liberal Christian". Sounds like water and oil to me.

[ironglows]

"Liberal Christian". Sounds like water and oil to me.

   Yes, that is correct, mainly because Jesus was quite clearly a conservative.  ...But there are a whole crowd out
 there who claim Christianity, but still defy Jesus' teachings in a very gross manner.

  They think they are just doing fine.

  "On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?"  (Matt 7:22)

[Dee]

I don't believe Christ was a "conservative". Christ was "moral perfection". Conservatism and Christian morality, are not necessarily the same thing.
I know conservatives that are atheists.
Christ has no interest in political issues. "Render unto Caesar, the things that are Caesars', and unto God, the things that are Gods'" pretty much establishes that point.

[powderman]

NO such critter as a LIBERAL, baby butchering, pervert loving, CHRISTIAN. CHARLIE. 

[Fixit]

In scanning though the commentary, I see the guy is exercising what should be a well worn argument that claims Jesus did not condone self defense. Study does not back that notion up. While Jesus castigates Peter for lashing out at the servant in the garden, telling him to put his sword away, He did not tell him to get rid of it! He also made reference in the parables to the home owner contending with intruders if he was aware of when the intruder would come. Sadly, most people don't know what's in the Bible, and don't know how to find anything if they tried!

[ironglows]

In scanning though the commentary, I see the guy is exercising what should be a well worn argument that claims Jesus did not condone self defense. Study does not back that notion up. While Jesus castigates Peter for lashing out at the servant in the garden, telling him to put his sword away, He did not tell him to get rid of it! He also made reference in the parables to the home owner contending with intruders if he was aware of when the intruder would come. Sadly, most people don't know what's in the Bible, and don't know how to find anything if they tried!

 
   Correct Fix it

   He doesn't want us to attack, especially not to kill little boys & girls even before they are born..

   
    8 Open your mouth for the speechless,
    In the cause of all who are appointed to die.
   
     9 Open your mouth, judge righteously,
     And plead the cause of the poor and needy.
                             
          (Prov 31:8,9}(/color)

[Dee]

In scanning though the commentary, I see the guy is exercising what should be a well worn argument that claims Jesus did not condone self defense. Study does not back that notion up. While Jesus castigates Peter for lashing out at the servant in the garden, telling him to put his sword away, He did not tell him to get rid of it! He also made reference in the parables to the home owner contending with intruders if he was aware of when the intruder would come. Sadly, most people don't know what's in the Bible, and don't know how to find anything if they tried!

True! While Christ was "meek", he wasn't "weak". He meekly served, and ministered to the poor, the sick, and the lost, He waded into the Temple with a whip, and single handedly cleared out that den of thieves.

It is like pinning conservatism on Christ. Christ has zero interest in earthly politics.

Christ is "meek" but not "weak", and HE is certainly not a "conservative", nor a "Republican".

[Dixie-Dude]

In the Old Testament, gays were to be stoned to death.  Marriage is a symbol of the union of God and Man through Christ and the church.  In the New Testament, Christ taught to repent of sin to receive forgiveness.  Repentance means don't do the sin.  "Liberal Christians" do not spend the time to read the Bible, nor learn what repentance of sin, and acceptance of Christ for our sins means. 

Abortion, being gay, only 40-50 years ago was illegal in America.  Why, because our laws were based on Christian Principles as the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court said in 1892.  He said America was basically a Christian nation and our laws were based on Christian principles. 

My how far we have strayed as a country. 

[Ranger99]

In the Old Testament, gays were to be stoned to death.  Marriage is a symbol of the union of God and Man through Christ and the church.  In the New Testament, Christ taught to repent of sin to receive forgiveness.  Repentance means don't do the sin.  "Liberal Christians" do not spend the time to read the Bible, nor learn what repentance of sin, and acceptance of Christ for our sins means. 

Abortion, being gay, only 40-50 years ago was illegal in America.  Why, because our laws were based on Christian Principles as the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court said in 1892.  He said America was basically a Christian nation and our laws were based on Christian principles. 

My how far we have strayed as a country.

There are many tens of thousands or
more of people that shop around for
a church that will tell them what they
want to hear and not mention eternal
hell and damnation
I know just such a woman that left her
long time church because of her 2
homosexual daughters and a bisexual
grandson, and shopped around for a
church that wouldn't say homosexuality
was condemned in the Bible.
Now she drives 20+ miles farther
to attend the feel good church

Many many feel good, good times
ahead, get rich,  hidden Bible secrets
churches around today

[Dee]

Gods' view of sexual perversions is easily located in The Book of Romans Chapter One. Certain churches "skip that book and Chapter".
1st Timothy Chapter 1 verse 10
1st Corinthians Chapter 6 verses 9 and 10
Leviticus Chapter 18 verse 22 & Chapter 20 verse 13
Genesis Chapter 19 verses 1 through 11
Genesis Chapter 9 verses 20 through 27

[Land_Owner]

Sadly, most people don't know what's in the Bible, and don't know how to find anything if they tried!

Don't paint with too broad a brush.  I, like most people I know, may not be able to readily[/i] find any specific thing in the bible, but we can read, and we can find everything - with a little effort.  We have always gone to church...churches where the bible is taught.  We LISTEN and HEAR the stories and parables regularly and can recite quite a few, if not all of them, just not chapter and verse, which is imo excessive and not necessary for forgiveness.  We know them to be the truth that will save our souls. 

Sadly, most people are not vocal or active in building (advancing) the church in the name of the Lord.  Don't judge.  Don't condemn.  Neither of these is right thinking. 

Rigorous and quotable biblical education is not in the minds of most people, as perhaps you believe it should be, but it is in their hearts, and in particular the way they treat others, especially the poor and the meek.  There are more good people than bad.

[Dee]

Excessive? Knowing what you believe, and knowing where that belief originated is hardly excessive. Its reading it for yourself.
The Berreans looked before they leaped on every scriptural issue, and were lauded for it in scripture.

[ironglows]

  True, Jesus was not interested in politics, per se.  In fact, He often was firmly against politicians of His day.

  Remember, 1st century Judaism was a theocracy...and the Pharisees vs Sadducees were the opposing parties.

  At least half of Jesus, was 1st century Jewish, and He evidently embraced the current values.  In any case,
  His (God's) values are right there in black & white, in the scriptures.

   God transcends politics, time and whatever the current values and preferences of the current culture is !

     The liberals are simply trying to pretend that Jesus didn't say what He said !  Hey liberals...just read it ..and do !!

[Dixie-Dude]

Without being born again, the liberal Christians don't have the Holy Spirit to guide them in the truth, and knowing right and wrong in their hearts. 

[ironglows]

Without being born again, the liberal Christians don't have the Holy Spirit to guide them in the truth, and knowing right and wrong in their hearts.

   
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.  (1 Cor 2:14)"

[Dee]

I don't get into whether a person is saved, or lost. That's between them, and God. The sin on the other hand, is judged as sin, or not.

Tryin to inject God into "political categories" in my opinion, is a sin. Ye shall know them by their fruits, seems pretty straight forward.

[Land_Owner]

Yeah...excessive.  Memorizing chapter and verse is excessive.

[Lloyd Smale]

     The liberals are simply trying to pretend that Jesus didn't say what He said !  Hey liberals...just read it ..and do !!

  seems alot of conservative "Christians" tend to do the same.

[Dee]

Yeah...excessive.  Memorizing chapter and verse is excessive.

How so? 2nd Timothy Chapter 2 verse15

[Mule 11]

Yeah...excessive.  Memorizing chapter and verse is excessive.

Now. Who is judging?

[Land_Owner]

I wrote that as an opinion and stated it so.  I won't obsess to rote memorization.  That isn't me.  If my in-death duty is to memorize the whole bible before going into heaven, so shall it be...

[Mule 11]

I don’t think ya do. I am guilty of judging. Missed where you were referring to yourself.

[ironglows]

Sadly, most people don't know what's in the Bible, and don't know how to find anything if they tried!

Don't paint with too broad a brush.  I, like most people I know, may not be able to readily[/i] find any specific thing in the bible, but we can read, and we can find everything - with a little effort.  We have always gone to church...churches where the bible is taught.  We LISTEN and HEAR the stories and parables regularly and can recite quite a few, if not all of them, just not chapter and verse, which is imo excessive and not necessary for forgiveness.  We know them to be the truth that will save our souls. 

Sadly, most people are not vocal or active in building (advancing) the church in the name of the Lord.  Don't judge.  Don't condemn.  Neither of these is right thinking. 

Rigorous and quotable biblical education is not in the minds of most people, as perhaps you believe it should be, but it is in their hearts, and in particular the way they treat others, especially the poor and the meek.  There are more good people than bad.

  Correct Land_owner...one can be quite familiar with what is in there, even though they cannot go immediately to the reference.  In fact, I think most are in that situation.  Doesn't mean their thoughts should be rejected.

[Dee]

I wrote that as an opinion and stated it so.  I won't obsess to rote memorization.  That isn't me.  If my in-death duty is to memorize the whole bible before going into heaven, so shall it be...

"In death duty"?

[BUGEYE]

ALL sinners are welcome in most Churches, but to become a Christian, you must repent of your sins and turn away from LGBT and other groups and stop deliberately committing sin.

[Graybeard]

Welcome back Bug, where ya been hiding?

[Ranger99]

ALL sinners are welcome in most Churches, but to become a Christian, you must repent of your sins and turn away from LGBT and other groups and stop deliberately committing sin.

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[Land_Owner]

I KNOW why I go to church...I want to be SAVED.  It is HARD to choose, every day, every hour, every minute, in word, deed, AND thought, to BE LIKE CHRIST.  I am a failure, but at least I try, and The Lord loves me (and you) even when I (we) fail...

[Mule 11]

I’ll say a few hari krishna’s for you and light some candles...