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Re: What say you teachers
« Reply #90 on: August 10, 2021, 06:39:14 AM »
So 2 years of reserve service with no combat duty 60+ years ago justifies 60+ years of free medical?
Could pounding on steel with a hammer have had anything to do with your hearing loss? Was not your military service not  "voluntary"?

My hearing loss stems from "21 years" of weapons training, and actual operations. I was paid a wage for my services, and I knew the probable consequences  and accepted them.

I have heard this question asked hundreds of times over the years, of why do  short enlistment (2 to 4 years) non-combat veterans believe they are entitled to lifetime medical benefits?
When people ask, the veteran becomes defensive. Why is that?
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« Reply #91 on: August 10, 2021, 07:56:11 AM »
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  Five years active duty..then reserve..  And you have no idea what my total service duties were. My time in Europe was under a secret classification..and I don't go into it.

    Then like you, and many here,  i did a lot of shooting and worked in noisy environments.

    60  Years of FREE medical?  ..Guess again..  Besides only about 25 years..applied for VA
 medical in the 1990s, when Clinton was threatening to pull the opportunity.

  Clinton was another non-veteran, who apparently envied veterans.

  I have 'Independent Health' insurance (equivalent to Blue C&S), and I pay far more to the VA than I do them!

  Please don't allow envy of veterans any sour any regard for them..

  .And was your 21 years of weapons training , not "voluntary" ?

  Yes, and being a tanker, i knew the possible consequences and still proudly served as a tanker. 

  ...Came very close during the Hungarian uprising..and being a young buck then..I was mildly disappointed.  We were confident that we could have dusted those T54s and T55s..  I still think we could have.

  Yes, you have many hours on the firing range.. but if you haven't spent any hours in a tank turret, while actively firing..you have no concept!

  BTW:  I could rely on my encompass 65 insurance policy alone, but I sometimes prefer the VA..which costs me more..
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« Reply #92 on: August 10, 2021, 08:27:16 AM »
So after about 35 or 40 years "after the fact" you decided it was the tanks that caused your hear loss, and it was time for Uncle Sam to pay up. Interesting.

I used to hunt with a guy that was an infantryman with 12 months combat in Vietnam. He received a Purple Heart, and returned to the private sector after his service.
He was a helluva carpenter, and made a good living for himself, and his  family, but talked constantly about being a big game guide in Colorado.
One day he told me he was applying for full disability for his military service. I asked why as I didn't see anything wrong with him.
He said if he could get that, he could afford to be a big game guide.
Long story shortened, he applied for it, got it, and for a few months ecery hunting season guides hunters in some of the roughest backcountry Colorado has to offer. :o

As to my law enforcement career being voluntary? Of course it was, and as for my many injuries sustained over that 21 years. My insurance taken out of my salary paid for it. After my deductible of course.

As I said, non combat military vets get kinda testy when questioned about free medical.

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Re: What say you teachers
« Reply #93 on: August 10, 2021, 10:33:33 AM »
seems to be lots of judging by people who didnt serve. As typical the pretend to know what every ones military time consisted of or forget that a guy can have permanent hearing damage that gets worse with time. Or the thousands how got cancer from asbestos exposure 30 years later.  I guess im guilty to of judging. I used to shake my head at state police and prison guards in MI that got full pensions for only working 25 years. Yup medical too. I think that went away lately but thousands of them got it. I dont shake my head anymore i think police, border guards and fireman are underpaid and I think our military is grossly underpaid.

Bottom line is there are criteria for getting va disability. Ive never once heard any politician claiming that criteria made it to easy to get approved. If he gets 10 percent for hearing loss he qualified for it and deserves it. The good thing is its not up to people that dont have a clue and didnt serve  to  decide whos deserving. Guzzi has to be smiling. As typical we attack each other and let the the things that are really destroying this country just slide by. It like religion on here. Fellow Christians attacking each other because of the chruch they go to while half the country is trying to abolish Christianity all together. Divide and concur that is the way they work. Turn us against each other so we do there job for them. Sad that some are stupid enough to fall into that trap.

Ive been judged quite a few times by the VA and doctors and surgeons. They all tell me i was nuts for waiting so long to apply. I was offered  100 percent disability in 1977. Applied in 2007.  Yup 30 years later. 30 years of daily pain while i worked. Pain that got worse over the years as i got old. My service record make it pretty obvious where that pain came from. Like i said i apologize to no one. Id bet if ironglow didnt think his hearing loss was service related he wouldnt have applied. I dont always agree with him but i know hes a man of character.
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« Reply #94 on: August 10, 2021, 10:44:05 AM »
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  If you have the time..re-read my post #.  I wasn't asking for the world in a red ribbon...  I was only asking for a measly 10%, so some future Obama or Biden would have a more difficult time taking it away.

  Important you notice however, I am not getting a "freebie'..it costs me more than my civilian plan.

  I think all veterans hear gripes about vets getting breaks at some restaurants etc., ...it's usually non-veterans
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  Some suffer hearing loss, some don't...some of those who are in door to door combat for periods of time, suffer from PTSD and some don't.  As Lloyd says..one size doesn't fit all. 

   My brother, who died in 2017, served during the Korean war, in the 16" turrets of the USS New Jersey.
 
  Yes, he did have ear muffs, but they would fire for hours on end.  One day they bombarded the N Korean city of Wonsan for 24 hours. When they were done..there was no more Wonsan..

  His hearing held up though..some others don't !

  It wasn't much easier than  that for other crew members.. 16 inch guns don't let anybody sleep, anywhere on the ship.

  Hey...at least we are giving the teachers a break !

 
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Re: What say you teachers
« Reply #95 on: August 10, 2021, 11:02:33 AM »
When ya take a job as a military slave putting your balls on the line and can’t quit and walk off. Ya deserve a bit of privelege. Just like the cop that doesn’t pay a speeding ticket...

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« Reply #96 on: August 10, 2021, 11:11:17 AM »
well said.
When ya take a job as a military slave putting your balls on the line and can’t quit and walk off. Ya deserve a bit of privelege. Just like the cop that doesn’t pay a speeding ticket...
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« Reply #97 on: August 10, 2021, 11:25:05 AM »
And that's my point. I respect people who served their country as long as they are respectable. However, many of these veterans believe that their service which is usually 2, to 4 years, are entitled to lifetime medical benefits, while howling about Congressional members, and in this case, teachers getting the same thing.
Your brother was involved in actual combat, but only 1 out of every 10 military personnel are.
Why, after decades have past that 2 to 4 year service, do they come back claiming that early snap shot in their lives is causing physical ailments.

As far as the "if you ain't a vet, you ain't served" that some, and one in particular here continually bellers, I'm more than confident that I have seen far and away more action than he has ever seen, so his protesting and wailing mean nuthin to me.

About 7% of the population of the United States has military service. MOST did 4 years or less, and 90% of those never saw action.
I have 3 sons that served. 1 saw combat.
I have 3 uncles. 2 saw combat.
I have 3 cousins. 1 saw combat.

As I said. I respect military vets even when they never saw combat, that act respectable, but they are not more special to  me than police, and firefighters, that spend decades serving their country, that draw a pension they paid into, and medical insurance they paid for out of their salary, and paid their own deductibles.
We spend our lives after service, paying our own bills, medical, and otherwise.
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« Reply #98 on: August 10, 2021, 06:42:18 PM »
I have a Grandson that never saw combat. He was serving on the USS Ronald Reagan when the tsunami hit Japan.The aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76) and its battle group were moved to the east coast of Honshu. The Ronald Reagan served as a refueling platform for Japan Self-Defense Forces. The Navy was told the waters were safe (From Radiation). They were not! My Grandsons job was in the water department operations. He was exposed to the Radiated water, and as a result became sick sometime later. He was hospitalized on board, and transferred to the Santiago Naval Hosp. as soon as they docked.They removed and aggressive malignant tumor, and several months later removed it again.There has been many others from the Reagan who have been diagnosed with cancer soon after the deployment. He is currently 50% disabled, and they have found two new tumors located on the spinal column.When and if they do surgery again, he will be upgraded to 100% again. He is an apprentice electrician, and uses the VA medical system. I'm sure he would rather be on private Ins, and not depending on the VA. IMO, he damn sure deserves it! Many people who suffer hearing loss  and other injuries caused by the military during combat or peace time because of their service have every right to use the VA system. The health care provided by the VA today depends on the recipients income. The more you make the more it costs for your health benefit co-payment.
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« Reply #99 on: August 10, 2021, 10:32:36 PM »
yup you served as a police officer and i respect that. But ill ask you what you were doing at 18 when the young men your age were going in the service? I know MANY police officers that served in the military BEFORE they were police. Very few that started in police depts at 18. Why if you didnt feel the obligation to serve at that age to you think you have the right to judge those who did. As to judging someone elses combat and claiming you saw more. Again you judge something you know NOTHING about. So what happens to a cop in your department that gets shot and can no longer work. Or is injured in a car wreck and can no longer work? Do they get tossed out of the road? Or do they get early reitrement with pay and medical coverage for the rest of there lives? Ill grant you that my time in danger was only two years. Yours was no doubt longer. But im more then willing to compare the injurys i recieved to yours. THe pain i suffered to yours.

 Ill also compare motives. I joined because i wanted to serve. My buddys all went to work in the ore mines up here and made 4 times what i did. I could have done that too. But my father, grandfather and great grand father served and i felt an obligation to server too. I am friends with many police officers and very few of them took that job because the felt the same obligation. they for the most part took it because it was a decent job. Did they serve the people of this country? YOU BET YOUR ASS THEY DID. Just like you did and I respect that. But they would never criticize or judge someone who served. They leave that bs to the liberals. The same ones that want to cut the military and spend that money on some art museum  or defund the police. You are the first cop ive ever heard pass negitive judgement on the men and women who were willing to risk there lives to defend YOUR family.

There are many here that didnt serve and im ok with that. They had there reasons and its none of my business. But if youve noticed your the only one attacking those that did here. Am i fired up over this? You bet! Im sitting here with a back that gives me pain every day of my life. recovering from another hip replacement 3 weeks ago. Which by the way makes. my 11th surgery because of what happened. I dont have a clue what action youve seen. I do know that 3/4 of police in this country retire without ever having to use there gun. Thats is in a 30 year carreer. Now take you stat of military that have seen combat and look at those who have served 30 years and not just 2 or 4. Go ask ironglow to tell you about the action his grandson saw. Compare that to yours. Id bet he saw more gun fights in 2 years then  you saw in your whole career. Bottom line is this is the last place id ever think id see someone passing judgement on someones military injurys no matter how small they were and by a police officer no less. Id expect it out of someone like guzzy but as much as we clash id never have dreamed this bs would come from you.
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« Reply #100 on: August 10, 2021, 10:36:27 PM »
I salute and will pray for your grandson. Not everyone that sacrificed for us had bullets flying around them. He gave just as much as someone that took a bullet if not MORE.
I have a Grandson that never saw combat. He was serving on the USS Ronald Reagan when the tsunami hit Japan.The aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76) and its battle group were moved to the east coast of Honshu. The Ronald Reagan served as a refueling platform for Japan Self-Defense Forces. The Navy was told the waters were safe (From Radiation). They were not! My Grandsons job was in the water department operations. He was exposed to the Radiated water, and as a result became sick sometime later. He was hospitalized on board, and transferred to the Santiago Naval Hosp. as soon as they docked.They removed and aggressive malignant tumor, and several months later removed it again.There has been many others from the Reagan who have been diagnosed with cancer soon after the deployment. He is currently 50% disabled, and they have found two new tumors located on the spinal column.When and if they do surgery again, he will be upgraded to 100% again. He is an apprentice electrician, and uses the VA medical system. I'm sure he would rather be on private Ins, and not depending on the VA. IMO, he damn sure deserves it! Many people who suffer hearing loss  and other injuries caused by the military during combat or peace time because of their service have every right to use the VA system. The health care provided by the VA today depends on the recipients income. The more you make the more it costs for your health benefit co-payment.
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« Reply #101 on: August 11, 2021, 01:08:21 AM »
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  NW; prayers sent for your grandson..  Many don't seem to realize that when the young soldier, marine, sailor or airman steps forward raising his/her hand in oath, they are aware of danger, and realize they could be called into combat at any time.  That also includes in your grandson's case, combat with the elements.

  This job has to be done..and only a select few are willing to do it !

   Yes..it was under the Obamanation that my costs were raised.. He called it "means testing"..and I really don't make all that much.  Regular doc visit Medicare.. $0  VA..$25  See a specialist...  Medicare..$25  VA..$50
  Prescriptions were a bargain at a flat $8 ...now $15..

  Young military people don't do this because of some strange 'death wish', but usually out of a love for their country, and doing something worthwhile.

  That being said, I don't disrespect cops or corrections officers, they also are doing jobs which many others would shy away from.
  I especially give credit to those presently serving in those capacities at this time, when there are clowns running around with aims to hurt or kill anyone who represents the law..

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« Reply #102 on: August 11, 2021, 01:54:17 AM »
I have a Grandson that never saw combat. He was serving on the USS Ronald Reagan when the tsunami hit Japan.The aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76) and its battle group were moved to the east coast of Honshu. The Ronald Reagan served as a refueling platform for Japan Self-Defense Forces. The Navy was told the waters were safe (From Radiation). They were not! My Grandsons job was in the water department operations. He was exposed to the Radiated water, and as a result became sick sometime later. He was hospitalized on board, and transferred to the Santiago Naval Hosp. as soon as they docked.They removed and aggressive malignant tumor, and several months later removed it again.There has been many others from the Reagan who have been diagnosed with cancer soon after the deployment. He is currently 50% disabled, and they have found two new tumors located on the spinal column.When and if they do surgery again, he will be upgraded to 100% again. He is an apprentice electrician, and uses the VA medical system. I'm sure he would rather be on private Ins, and not depending on the VA. IMO, he damn sure deserves it! Many people who suffer hearing loss  and other injuries caused by the military during combat or peace time because of their service have every right to use the VA system. The health care provided by the VA today depends on the recipients income. The more you make the more it costs for your health benefit co-payment.
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I would consider that most definitely a service related injury like Agent Orange, and isn't what I'm talking about. I have a distant cousin that has a myriad of health issues caused by AGent Orange, and know numerous other Vietnam veterans with service related issues such as that. Your grandson has an obvious service related injury.

Hope and prayers for recovery.
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« Reply #103 on: August 11, 2021, 06:21:27 AM »
Has any teachers chimed into this thread at all?  Hmm, can tell a lot. 
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« Reply #104 on: August 11, 2021, 06:37:44 AM »
Has any teachers chimed into this thread at all?  Hmm, can tell a lot.

  Yes, a couple former teachers did reply, and I give them credit for that..being as they could have figured they would be greatly outnumbered to start with
  It seems they taught before the CRT debate came along.  Personally, I think they are in denial as to what is happening NOW.

   Perhaps that ugly teaching was going on right along, an has just come to light.  Once the plan-demic was in full swing, and kids were forced int "distance learning",..parents caught a glimpse of the hatred that is being taught.

    Thus, without the "don't tell your parents" or "don't take that book home", prompting from teachers..truth emerged.
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« Reply #105 on: August 11, 2021, 06:39:01 AM »
From Dixie-Dude:
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Has any teachers chimed into this thread at all?  Hmm, can tell a lot.
You might try reading through this thread.
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« Reply #106 on: August 11, 2021, 06:47:41 AM »
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    Here's what Loudon county school kids are being immersed in.  The teachers and admin have trouble denying, since it has become public knowledge.

  For instance, this father doesn't want his children instructed in pornography.  Are there pervs like this in many school districts?

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGGfXRQsBvc

  This young teacher became so tired of being part of such an anti white, anti Christian system, that she resigned
Not only was she disgusted with the highly politicized atmosphere which Guzzi referred to..but when they told her she was forbidden to speak anything other than the "party line", and they told her party faithful contemporaries to spy and report on her... that was a bit much. (2 min video)

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5CG4DF2YOw
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« Reply #107 on: August 11, 2021, 09:11:20 AM »
yup two of them. One good one and one, well a total ----- -- ----!!!
Has any teachers chimed into this thread at all?  Hmm, can tell a lot.
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« Reply #108 on: August 11, 2021, 12:52:09 PM »
LOL! Just Guz!
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« Reply #109 on: August 11, 2021, 03:57:34 PM »
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« Reply #110 on: August 11, 2021, 11:27:12 PM »
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  This young teacher became so tired of being part of such an anti white, anti Christian system, that she resigned
Not only was she disgusted with the highly politicized atmosphere which Guzzi referred to..but when they told her she was forbidden to speak anything other than the "party line", and they told her party faithful contemporaries to spy and report on her... that was a bit much. (2 min video)

That reminds me of stories my son tells about working in a school in Oakland, CA. There are faculty meetings to which he is not allowed because he is white. He is outspoken enough that, as mentioned in an earlier post, he is asked to leave when he criticizes the “party” line.

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« Reply #111 on: August 12, 2021, 01:43:34 AM »
Liberals are great deniers, and they deny CRT is being implemented. CRT indoctrination is just another tool in the the Marxists tool bag to divide and conquer America. Mostly it first got its foothold in college universities, and like other forms of indoctrination. Indoctrinated     college graduates become teachers, union leaders, school board members, politicans, and parents that vote for this garbage.  Hence, the process of indoctrination is carried into K-12 schools.  CRT training is just one of the thousand slices that is causing the death of what was once a great nation. 

https://nypost.com/2021/02/05/website-tracks-where-critical-race-theory-taught-at-us-schools/ 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/map-see-which-states-have-passed-critical-race-theory-bills-n1271215

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/yes-critical-race-theory-is-being-taught-in-public-schools

https://floridianpress.com/2021/07/critical-race-theory-is-being-taught-in-k-12-schools-first-lady-biden-supports-it/
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« Reply #112 on: August 12, 2021, 01:53:26 AM »
Well, when we get enough folks rattin each other out, it will run smoother.
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« Reply #113 on: August 12, 2021, 07:48:07 AM »
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   Those are some great links, DDZ.  I hav e been saying that the lefties are really good at being slippery in their denial CRT.
     In your link #2, by NBC..here's a paragraph;

  "In a matter of months, Republican lawmakers in nearly half of the states have proposed legislation to limit the teaching of concepts such as racial equity and white privilege. In some cases, those concepts have been inaccurately described as “critical race theory” — a decades-old academic premise that contends systemic racism remains central to much of American life and its legal system."

  Essentially, it appears they admit they are teaching a decades-old academic premise"...  Probably by some kook, but set aside, and are just now, starting implement it!

  Basically, they teach that stuff, but they just don't call it CRT...not all of them anyway
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« Reply #114 on: August 12, 2021, 07:58:36 AM »
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  Your #3 link shows how downright mean, evil and rotten teachers can be with children as young as 5.

      "There are plenty of other examples that prove racial essentialism and collective guilt are being taught to young students. In Cupertino, California, an elementary school required third graders to rank themselves according to the “power and privilege” associated with their ethnicities. Schools in Buffalo, New York, taught students that “all white people” perpetuate “systemic racism” and had kindergarteners watch a video of dead black children, warning them about “racist police and state-sanctioned violence.” And in Arizona, the state’s education department sent out an “equity toolkit” to schools that claimed infants as young as 3 months old can start to show signs of racism and “remain strongly biased in favor of whiteness” by age 5."

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  Who in the system, steps up to spare these little children nightmares?

   Who in the system, questions the accuracy of these spurious reports?

  Who steps up to explain to 5 year old children, that they don't have to hate their white parents?

  Who steps up to stop all this "teaching to hate"?
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« Reply #115 on: August 12, 2021, 08:03:47 AM »
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  From link #4 ..The Floridian;

  "The Broward County School Board has included Critical Race Theory resources on its website, sharing that it is “in the courage of our young people to seek truth and justice in our country and take on our most pressing duties such as reforming our criminal justice system and changing the mindsets of bias, racism, and oppression.” The site concludes that “change is never easy, but always necessary.”

  Perhaps the "mindsets of bias, racism, and oppression"..is only a reflection of those 'educators' minds !
 
Then this;
"The embattled school board, which is currently embroiled in controversy after Superintendant Robert Runcie was arrested for allegedly lying to a grand jury, is openly pushing the CRT to students and as we mentioned, has dedicated space on its website so that students can access resources relating to CRT."

   It's only a cat, if you call it a cat...you could call the same thing a dog, if it will help you slip out of a corner!
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Re: What say you teachers
« Reply #116 on: August 12, 2021, 01:04:37 PM »
What I have seen throughout life is that right or wrong teachers stick together. Its the Rah, Rah, union mentality.  No mater how wrong something is that is being taught. Teachers will not admit its damaging to young minds, and the health of America itself. One of the teachers on this very forum stated this "I am not going to deny it. I retired decades ago. I just do not know for sure. You seem very certain. Have you seen a text or a syllabus or a curriculum outline for CRT?"  He said he isn't denying it, but actually he was. He questioned if the poster he was replying to had seen a syllabus or curriculum for CRT.  Its basically the same thing as denial.  He knew that the poster had not laid eyes on a curriculum for CRT.  Its why he bought it up.  Anyone that has internet access, and knows how to research, say CRT in our schools, can clearly find enough evidence in a very short amount of time that its very prevalent in many schools and has been.  Especially in our schools of higher learning that indoctrinate the very teachers that will poison young minds for decades.   

Decades ago, if our education system that we have had in place for many years now. Was implemented by a foreign country. It would have been seen as an act of war.  I believe that our government run schools, and colleges are the very reason that we have become so divided  and the reason so many hate America.
   
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« Reply #117 on: August 12, 2021, 01:35:25 PM »
I've met very few teachers over the years that DIDN'T believe they were always a little smarter than the parents.
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« Reply #118 on: August 12, 2021, 05:10:32 PM »
I've met very few teachers over the years that DIDN'T believe they were always a little smarter than the parents.

  Yes; even those many years ago when I was in school, I can recall just that attitude exhibiting itself.  I never could understand where that superiority complex came from.

  Then too, I have seen strong evidence of what DDZ was speaking about.  They seem to stick together, come thick or thin...right or wrong. ,...But then, many dedicated union folk will do that..never admitting that their union ever does anything wrong.

  Once in a rare instance, we find one person who cannot stomach the duplicity and arrogance.  It appears that this young, Loudon County teacher is just one of those people!

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« Reply #119 on: August 12, 2021, 10:14:15 PM »
What I have seen throughout life is that right or wrong teachers stick together. Its the Rah, Rah, union mentality.  No mater how wrong something is that is being taught. Teachers will not admit its damaging to young minds, and the health of America itself. One of the teachers on this very forum stated this "I am not going to deny it. I retired decades ago. I just do not know for sure. You seem very certain. Have you seen a text or a syllabus or a curriculum outline for CRT?"  He said he isn't denying it, but actually he was. He questioned if the poster he was replying to had seen a syllabus or curriculum for CRT.  Its basically the same thing as denial.  He knew that the poster had not laid eyes on a curriculum for CRT.  Its why he bought it up.  Anyone that has internet access, and knows how to research, say CRT in our schools, can clearly find enough evidence in a very short amount of time that its very prevalent in many schools and has been.  Especially in our schools of higher learning that indoctrinate the very teachers that will poison young minds for decades.   

Thank you for the quote. Since you wrote that missive twisting my ideas into a shape useful to you, I have been taking your advice and searching the internet for, as you say, clear evidence the the teaching of CRT is very prevalent in schools. I have found it slow going. (The search term I am using is : is critical race theory being taught in - name of state - schools.) if you can suggest better term for a search, I am ready to listen. I am ready to take advice.
So far, I have found no states that will admit to allowing CRT curriculum in to their schools. That does not mean that it is not happening, I know that. Connecticut does not use the term CRT but is committed to the study of diversity. Indiana says no as does Illinois, Minnesota, New York and….I am not going to list more as I have not assessed all 50 states yet. In addition, there is the problem of whether you would believe anything that I found.
But I am trying. I am open to ideas.
I have been unable to locate an actual syllabus in use.