NEW OLD PISTOL--

[Old and grumpy]

I am posting on this page because the gun smith said this was based on a H&R gun. She is made by US Revolver co. 38 S&W. 3 1/4" barrel. No hammer.  # D2653x.  The more I look on line she looks like a Ivers & Johnston.  3rd gen?   From what I found  gens 1 and 2 were proofed for black powder. 3 for smokeless. Any idea what model this is?  What year "D" is.  Thanks.

[Dee]

On to of the rib it should say Iver Johnson Bicycle Works if it is an IJ. My great grandmother gave hers to my dad, he gave it to me, and last year, I gave it to my oldest boy.

[Old and grumpy]

She has become one of my most fun to shoot. With almost all powder hard to get I am loading her with Pyrodex or black. Pyrodex never went away and I don't mind getting her dirty.  I cast the bullets. Proper size for 38S&W is .361  but .359 will work and there is a lot of data for it.  Some day I will buy the .361 mold.

[Ranger99]

Where did you find cases at ?
All these people are saying that
"Well you should be able to cut
down 38 special cases.  . ."
Just me- a break top is already an
accident waiting to happen if you
don't pay attention to details, and
38spc is fairly different dimensionally
besides the length

[Ranger99]

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[Old and grumpy]

Where did you find cases at ?
All these people are saying that
"Well you should be able to cut
down 38 special cases.  . ."
Just me- a break top is already an
accident waiting to happen if you
don't pay attention to details, and
38spc is fairly different dimensionally
besides the length

     Midway  https://www.midwayusa.com/s?searchTerm=starline+brass&Cartridge=38+S%26W    by Starline.Others had them also.

[Dee]

I actually regret letting my boy have that old breakdown. About once a year I'd take it out and run a few rounds through it. It might even get some carry time. 

I like the old Scofield model smith's, and if I could afford the $1100.00 it takes to own a reproduction in 38 Special I'd buy one for edc.

[Ranger99]

Where did you find cases at ?
All these people are saying that
"Well you should be able to cut
down 38 special cases.  . ."
Just me- a break top is already an
accident waiting to happen if you
don't pay attention to details, and
38spc is fairly different dimensionally
besides the length

     Midway  https://www.midwayusa.com/s?searchTerm=starline+brass&Cartridge=38+S%26W    by Starline.Others had them also.

Oh ok- thanks
I've checked before and they were out.
They're still showing to be out and no
backorder
Not a big deal. There'll be some turn up

[Ranger99]

A late friend of mine had a 38 S&W and
a 32. Carried one in each pocket.
Not sure what happened to his firearms
after he passed.
Probably ended up in a pawn shop for
ten cents on the dollar

[Dee]

The one I had was a 38 S&W. Perfect workin order.

[Old and grumpy]

Picked up two speed loaders and the pouch. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1015130341?pid=466721   38S&W  works fine in them. The rounds are short so I put filler in the pouch to lift them.

[Ranger99]

This cro-mee-um one is a 38S&W
I've shot it years ago with factory
lead bullet ammo. Not exactly sure
what I did with the empties, but it
was likely before I had an interest
in loading. I've always had a S&W
or a Detective Special or Model 10
or something else to use and
had a big metal box full of canvas
bank bags of once fireds at my
disposal

[gene_225]

Where did you find cases at ?
All these people are saying that
"Well you should be able to cut
down 38 special cases.  . ."
Just me- a break top is already an
accident waiting to happen if you
don't pay attention to details, and
38spc is fairly different dimensionally
besides the length

I picked up a box of new .38 S&W ammo at the lgs just a few months ago. I have three of them now: a S&W hammerless, an IJ break action hammer, and a solid frame Colt Police Positive. Don't shoot them often, but fun when I do. You can sometimes find brass or ammo on the internet. I have some hand loaded ammo I wouldn't be afraid to shoot in the Colt and I have fired factory in both break actions.

[Old and grumpy]

Starlinebrass.com.  They take back orders.   https://www.starlinebrass.com/pistol-brass/         https://www.starlinebrass.com/38-sw-brass        Dealer Locator-- https://www.starlinebrass.com/dealers/ -- PPU makes them also.  https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/search?keywords=38+sw+brass

[Old and grumpy]

Proper bullet size .361  https://missouribullet.com/results.php?category=5&secondary=29  I have used these. Very good.  ----  Bullet mold   .360  https://oldwestbulletmoulds.com/shop/ols/categories/pistol-caliber-bullet-moulds ----  Lee makes dies.

[Old and grumpy]

Data 38S&W --  Black/Pyrodex  https://goexpowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/cartridge-pistol-revolvers.pdf       Smokeless with reduced break top loads-- https://reloadammo.com/38-s-w-load-data/     Hodgdon has it on there page also.  https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/node