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Conceding On The Covid-19 Shot?
« on: August 07, 2021, 03:03:34 PM »
I'm  re-considering taking the vaccine due to a million plus illegal border jumpers comin across the  border. Most into Texas.

Do I believe this vaccine thing has been politicized? Yes!
Do I  think the Biden Regime is trying to control the pop with it? Yes!
Do I believe covid-19 is real? Yes!
Do I believe it is as bad as the guberment says? Not really
Do I know anyone who recovered from covid-19? Quite a few!
Do I know anyone who died from covid-19? 2!

The State of Texas is being overran with infected mescans.
 
I'm thinking it may not be a good time to be hard headed.
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Re: Conceding On The Covid-19 Shot?
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2021, 03:43:59 PM »
Sounds reasonable.
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Re: Conceding On The Covid-19 Shot?
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2021, 03:59:32 PM »
Well Doris & I both got the shot. Mostly because Doris has been flying and spent the last 2 months visiting our kids and grandkids in Alaska.

For the most part we are not usually in high risk areas, but she was traveling too much to take a chance on exposer. I got the shot just in case I had to travel too for some reason by air.

Of course COVID has been used as a political tool. But I know a few folks that caught it. Most that died were older like we are. If I could be sure I could just stay on the ranch I probably would not have gotten the shot.
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Re: Conceding On The Covid-19 Shot?
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2021, 01:22:04 AM »
I had covid, and struggled with it a more than I thought I would, but now I have immunity going forward. Its said that your immunity is only is good for 3 months, but I don't believe that. I believe they are telling people 3 months and your immunity time is up, to scare more people into getting the fake vaccine.
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Re: Conceding On The Covid-19 Shot?
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2021, 02:18:51 AM »
From TM7:
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Most doctors won't give the jabs themselves, and the majority haven't been jabbed.
I don't believe that for a NY second.
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Re: Conceding On The Covid-19 Shot?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2021, 03:10:46 AM »
It is your body so do what you want. I am not having any holes poked in me.

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Re: Conceding On The Covid-19 Shot?
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2021, 04:02:59 AM »
When it has cleared all clinical trials and is approved by the FDA I might think about it, for now it was approved for emergency use by the FDA and considering the amount of people that are having adverse reactions when vaccinated and a good example to look at it is Israel where over 85% of the population has been vaccinated but they are currently having a huge outbreak of covid.
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Re: Conceding On The Covid-19 Shot?
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2021, 04:28:01 AM »
We have family who had Covid.  The antibodies last 9 months to a year.  Kind of like the flu.  Not 3 months.  However, after two of my children, 2 of my grandchildren, a BLI, a SIL, and a nephew got covid, we got the shots.  We checked two weeks after we got the shots and we had antibodies.  We might still get the variant, but if will be lesser symptoms. 

We also know from my BIL getting it, that hydroxicloriquine and zinc taken together kills the virus if taken early.  This is because he didn't have antibodies afterwards.  I think Ivermectin does the same. 

I think the government knows about the meds, but they want herd immunity to stop the virus from spreading, thus the shots.  The Delta variant spreads much easier and faster, but symptoms are milder than regular Covid.  Not enough information on the Lamda variant coming out of South America. 

Everyone we know who have had the Covid says the symptoms are worse than the flu.  Again, if you are older with heart trouble, diabetes, lung problems, you probably need the shots. 

From everything I have read, including most conservative news information, the most people getting the Delta variant are young people who are NOT vaccinated.  Yes, some vaccinated people are getting it including a 78 year old mayor in the town next to me.  However, he has mild symptoms.  From what I have found out at my local hospital and other authorities, it is mostly unvaccinated people getting the virus and end up going to the hospital and younger people who have not been vaccinated. 

Far right and far left conspiracy theories are not true about Covid.  For instance, only those who are sick really need to wear a mask to keep from spreading it.  A healthy person wearing a mask coming in contact with a sick person not wearing a mask, can still get the virus.  We quit wearing a mask after getting the shots. 

Another weird fact.  I have a SIL who recently tested positive for Covid, has had the shots, but has absolutely no symptoms.  She is a carrier and spreader, thus should wear a mask.  So many people are spreaders who don't get the symptoms.  Why?  Who knows, maybe high amounts of vitamin D or zinc in their system. 

Israel did an extensive study on vitamin D.  The ones who got covid had low doses of vitamin D in their system, which were mostly Muslim women who live in Israel (about 1 million Muslims live in Israel and are Israeli citizens).  Muslim women are covered up and don't get enough sunshine to produce vitamin D.  Vitamin D is part of the resistance to infection.  So take some D3 every day.  Zinc helps but don't take too much.  Zinc bonds with the virus's DNA when it replicates, thus the virus dies.  Hydroxi and Ivermectin open your cells up to allow zinc in, then when the virus attacks your cell it bonds with the zinc and dies. 

Another problem, if enough people got the vaccine fast enough, the virus would have went away because of herd immunity.  However India is giving everyone Ivermectin instead of the vaccine because it is far cheaper.  So they are not getting herd immunity and the virus can continue to spread.  Same with Brazil giving out hydroxi, not just for Covid but for malaria.  So, mutated forms will come from countries like this who can't afford the vaccines. 

Boosters every year or so will help, like the flu vaccines help.  Not fully, but will slow it down.  I got the flu twice in the early 90's which developed into pneumonia.  I then started getting the flu vaccine every year and haven't had it since.  So they do work.  I believe the Covid vaccine does work, not 100%, but even the manufacturers say it is 95% effective, which is playing out to be true as only about 5% of those who have the vaccine get Covid.   So it does help. 
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Re: Conceding On The Covid-19 Shot?
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2021, 05:26:55 AM »
Thanks for the info DD. It's a crap shoot I guess, who knows what, or who to believe. I'm still kicking it around.
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Re: Conceding On The Covid-19 Shot?
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2021, 06:03:04 AM »


Another weird fact.  I have a SIL who recently tested positive for Covid, has had the shots, but has absolutely no symptoms.  She is a carrier and spreader, thus should wear a mask.  So many people are spreaders who don't get the symptoms.  Why?  Who knows, maybe high amounts of vitamin D or zinc in their system. 


Another problem, if enough people got the vaccine fast enough, the virus would have went away because of herd immunity.  However India is giving everyone Ivermectin instead of the vaccine because it is far cheaper.  So they are not getting herd immunity and the virus can continue to spread.  Same with Brazil giving out hydroxi, not just for Covid but for malaria.  So, mutated forms will come from countries like this who can't afford the vaccines. 

 I believe the Covid vaccine does work, not 100%, but even the manufacturers say it is 95% effective, which is playing out to be true as only about 5% of those who have the vaccine get Covid.   So it does help.

If enough people get the vaccine fast enough, the virus would have went away because of herd immunity??? Yet your SIL had the shot, got covid and was a potential spreader???? Those two statement contradict each other.  So the virus, living and replicating and spreading in the vaccinated, yet being repressed by the so called vaccine.  You don't think it's evolving in those people, effectively trying to find a way around the vaccine?  Simple knowledge of basic biology says different.   

And you really believe only 5% of vaccinated people can get breakthrough.  I'm pretty sure you will have a hard time finding anyone else to back that up, even CDC or fouci and the like.  All have admitted that the vaccine does little to nothing to prevent you from getting COVID, they are still clinging to to assumption that you will have mild symptoms.  Although so do most of the unvaccinated.

My wife works at a a hospital, they have had a slight increase in COVID patients over the the last couple weeks, but the mold is still holding true,  mostly older people and ALL WITH COMORBIDITIES!!!

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Re: Conceding On The Covid-19 Shot?
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2021, 06:18:46 AM »
I know two people who went and got the shot and then went for second and now both have covid they said symptoms were very mild. I know of another fellow who took first shot then was call for the second he was healthy, middle aged, took second shot and 12 hours later he was dead. These are not hear says first hand information. I respect everyone who makes the choice to take shot, I respect those who choose to not get the shot, we all have choices, mine is not to take the shot. your choice may be different

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Re: Conceding On The Covid-19 Shot?
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2021, 01:19:07 PM »
Again I look at the people that are really pushing this fake vaccine, and those people could care less if I die of covid.  So I have to question why this fake vaccine is being forced on everyone, and even mandated. It isn't killing the younger productive people. So why all the pressure to force people to get it?  there is even talk of getting kids the fake vaccine. Its been proven that covid is not a danger to kids, nor are they spreaders of it. I just have a gut feeling there is a sinister motive behind it all.   
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Re: Conceding On The Covid-19 Shot?
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2021, 02:44:43 PM »
Again I look at the people that are really pushing this fake vaccine, and those people could care less if I die of covid.  So I have to question why this fake vaccine is being forced on everyone, and even mandated. It isn't killing the younger productive people. So why all the pressure to force people to get it?  there is even talk of getting kids the fake vaccine. Its been proven that covid is not a danger to kids, nor are they spreaders of it. I just have a gut feeling there is a sinister motive behind it all.
  Sure there s a sinister motive ,look no further than politics . Pandemic =  mail-in ballots for the Dems to  stuff the ballot box  in the next election  .

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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2021, 10:06:14 PM »
if i lived center mass in that border fiasco in tx you couldnt get me to the doctor fast enough. Probably get a hepatitis vax as well. 
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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2021, 11:58:54 PM »
One thing that most do not talk about is the fact that this is still in "Clinical Trial" phase as they gather the required info for an attempt at approval.

Some may say ok so what, well the so what is that depending on where you go to get this shot as to whether or not you in in a "trial" many are some are not but the one thing that all of the "trials" have in common is that only about 50% of the shots are the vax the rest are placebos.

Have a look at the data in this video on these trials, and the placebo. In the end do what you want, me I will die fighting whom ever comes at me with the jab. When you look at all the data from around the world, the jab should not even be used, ivermectin should and a few others that have shown they work better that the jab without the side effect of death.

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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2021, 12:24:36 AM »
Again I look at the people that are really pushing this fake vaccine, and those people could care less if I die of covid.  So I have to question why this fake vaccine is being forced on everyone, and even mandated. It isn't killing the younger productive people. So why all the pressure to force people to get it?  there is even talk of getting kids the fake vaccine. Its been proven that covid is not a danger to kids, nor are they spreaders of it. I just have a gut feeling there is a sinister motive behind it all.
  Sure there s a sinister motive ,look no further than politics . Pandemic =  mail-in ballots for the Dems to  stuff the ballot box  in the next election  .

I was mostly referring to a sinister motive behind getting everyone injected with this fake vaccine.  A whole book could be written on the sinister motives of the Marxists that are running this country now. 
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Re: Conceding On The Covid-19 Shot?
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2021, 12:56:09 AM »
Well good luck with it
Hopefully everything will work out

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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2021, 02:29:54 AM »
It is enough for me to reject it when everyone concerned with it is given immunity from prosecution or retribution for any harm it does. Safe? Sure it is.  ::)

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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2021, 03:04:30 AM »
I can't seem to get motivated to head toward the CVS where they're giving the shot.
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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2021, 04:05:06 AM »
Add this to all above.  mRNA is a very, very fragile molecule, which is why they seal it inside the lipid nanoparticles and why it needs to be kept at ultra low temperatures.  The obvious problem here is that they are distributing at every clinic and pharmacy across the country with little oversite.  Wonder what percentage of shots sat on the counter too long and were injected?  Wonder if they've done any studies on the repercussions of injecting a rotted or partially rotted substance mRNA stew into a patient?
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« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2021, 05:02:02 AM »
It is enough for me to reject it when everyone concerned with it is given immunity from prosecution or retribution for any harm it does. Safe? Sure it is.  ::)
  Thats the big red flag , if their not confident enough to stand by their product  , Im not confident enough to get it .

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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2021, 07:17:56 AM »
If you don't want the vax, get some Ivermectin for horses.  It is marked by weight of the horse the amount to give.  Break or cut off what you need.  You can also get Ivermectin for dogs in pill form.  Take based on weight. 

Or, get ahold of some Hydroxichloriquinine.  It is sold over the counter in 3rd world countries to deal with malaria.  Take it with zinc.  Very important that you take zinc with either of these drugs.  Anyway, hydroxi is given to rhumatoid arthritis patients to keep the arthritis at bay.  It works. 

What is weird, my BIL got covid last year when it first came out.  Got symptoms, 3 days later he had pneumonia.  He took hydroxi and zinc for 3 days and afterwards was well enough to work on building a new deck.  Continued taking it for 7 days.  His son, my nephew, got covid at the same time but had mild symptoms and didn't take anything.  His wife my SIL didn't have any symptoms and lived in the same house. 

Fast forward today.  All three got the Covid vaccine.  My SIL recently had a positive Covid test, absolutely no symptoms like the first time.  My BIL had a negative test.  She is one of the estimated 40% of people who never get sick, but can carry and spread the virus even with the vaccine.  This is what is weird about this virus. 

Another weird thing.  My brother never got Covid by his wife got a bad case of of it for a month.  Pneumonia symptoms.  They slept in the same bed as well as my BIL and SIL. 

This virus only affects certain people.  My wife and I got the vaccine because of co-morbidities.  However, we also have some Ivermectin on hand as well.  Even with the shots it wears off after about 9 months same as getting the virus.  I know a nurse who got it twice, once early on, and once about a year later before the vaccine came out, she got the vaccine.  So it acts like the flu.  Flu shots only work for about a year. 

Another thing is vitamin D.  If you have high levels of vitamin D you are less likely to get it.  So take some vitamin D3 or get out in the sun a lot, along with a zinc supplement.   

I know the drugs work because of my BIL.  All things we can find out about the drugs, mostly from Israel and India, work if taken early after you get the symptoms, sore throat, cough, cold, loss of smell.  Whether it is covid or just a bad cold or flu, taking the meds is not going to hurt.  Upset stomach is the major symptom of the drugs. 

Another weird but interesting thing.  After my BIL's first bought with Covid with him taking the meds and his son not taking the meds.  His son later that spring, had antibodies, but he did not.  The drugs kill and destroy the virus.  Problem with the drugs is when you wait until you have to go to the hospital, the drugs don't work as well.  The virus is deeply imbedded in your lungs by then.  Must take them within 3-5 days from the first symptoms. 
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