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Part of the ME experience..
« on: August 25, 2021, 04:49:57 AM »
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  Speaking with my grandson and my friend Tim, who was a dog handler doing bomb detection with the British, I find that they considered their interpreters invaluable, and "one of the guys".  They were extremely helpful and loyal  to the US troops.
  One interpreter who was in the Humvee with my grandson, had his arm splattered all over the interior of the vehicle.  Grandson was up in the .50 BMG mount, but still got some flesh & blood on his pants..others got it all over.

  He lost his arm when an RPG hit the right side window, but only penetrated part way..then exploded.

     These interpreters deserve to be rescued..how about it Joe?

  Does anybody else here have friends ir family who can testify as to the interpreters?

  Will they be rescued, or will we have a Biden blood bath ?
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Re: Part of the ME experience..
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2021, 12:45:40 PM »
It'll be a biden bloodbath.
The last planes to attempt a takeoff will be shot down, and then EVERYONE who worked for the USA will be hunted down and murdered.
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Re: Part of the ME experience..
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2021, 04:37:29 PM »
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     Sometimes one wonders, if the weapons Joe left for them, will be used to shoot down our planes... as they try to leave..
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Re: Part of the ME experience..
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2021, 08:07:18 AM »
People don't understand at all
There's no tolerance at all for the
great satan and infidels in general
No compassion for sinful Americans
No grey areas
None
It can't be changed in any way
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Re: Part of the ME experience..
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2021, 09:20:26 AM »
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  Since Larry and Curly handed the terrorists, Afghanistan and $85,000,000,000 in advanced weapons, we can look forward to more such attacks taking place here in the states.
   They have not given up in their jihadi aims...they will likely pick up where they left off on 9/11...especially if the gumdrop Demonrats stay in charge.
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Re: Part of the ME experience..
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2021, 08:13:22 AM »
"These interpreters deserve to be rescued..."

Why didn't we start getting them out last year after we told the Taliban we were leaving (signed an agreement to be out by May 31!!)???????

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Re: Part of the ME experience..
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2021, 08:18:47 AM »
"These interpreters deserve to be rescued..."

Why didn't we start getting them out last year after we told the Taliban we were leaving (signed an agreement to be out by May 31!!)???????



You think that just maybe it was because they were needed until we actually left?   :o
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Re: Part of the ME experience..
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2021, 02:11:04 PM »
"These interpreters deserve to be rescued..."

Why didn't we start getting them out last year after we told the Taliban we were leaving (signed an agreement to be out by May 31!!)???????



You think that just maybe it was because they were needed until we actually left?   :o

Yeah... I guess....  We were down to 2500 troops before the end of 2020; we have removed over 100,000 Afghans in that last 2 weeks - maybe we really needed 4 interpreters per solder.  Better yet just remove everyone 150,000 or more on one final day!!!!

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Re: Part of the ME experience..
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2021, 02:23:51 PM »
"These interpreters deserve to be rescued..."

Why didn't we start getting them out last year after we told the Taliban we were leaving (signed an agreement to be out by May 31!!)???????



You think that just maybe it was because they were needed until we actually left?   :o

Yeah... I guess....  We were down to 2500 troops before the end of 2020; we have removed over 100,000 Afghans in that last 2 weeks - maybe we really needed 4 interpreters per solder.  Better yet just remove everyone 150,000 or more on one final day!!!!


Nice deflection.  No one said they were all interpreters.  But, of course you're not dumb enough to think that.  You know you just twisted that to attempt to make a point.  Who cares if many of them are Americans, or allies that have helped us for the last twenty years, AND have been helping us right up to the present.  That's no reason to place blame on Joe "the buck stops here" Biden.  Got it.
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Re: Part of the ME experience..
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2021, 02:42:42 PM »
"These interpreters deserve to be rescued..."

Why didn't we start getting them out last year after we told the Taliban we were leaving (signed an agreement to be out by May 31!!)???????



You think that just maybe it was because they were needed until we actually left?   :o

Yeah... I guess....  We were down to 2500 troops before the end of 2020; we have removed over 100,000 Afghans in that last 2 weeks - maybe we really needed 4 interpreters per solder.  Better yet just remove everyone 150,000 or more on one final day!!!!
AS you know, the bases here in the states use a large number of civilians.
It was no different over there.  It takes a lot of people to maintain an army and a lot to fight a war. :)
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Re: Part of the ME experience..
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2021, 07:46:37 AM »
"Nice deflection.  No one said they were all interpreters."

Sorry trying to stick to the ORIGINAL POST "their interpreters invaluable", " These interpreters deserve to be rescued" "Does anybody else here have friends ir family who can testify as to the interpreters? Will they be rescued, or will we have a Biden blood bath ?"

See the OP was about INTERPRETERS so deflection?????

To be clear this was a cluster%@&#, but any way you did it it would be.   I simply said why didn't folks get out earlier since it was announced in Feb. 2020 we were leaving, and by then the Taliban already controlled over half of the country.  Human nature, wait until the last minute then blame someone else for your poor decision.  Should we have sent in about 100,000 to 200,000 troops to drive them completely out???  The biggest mistake Biden made was ACTUALLY getting out (on his watch).  Three Presidents before him knew whoever withdrew would see the Taliban retake the country and thus count it as a loss.  That is why they never made good on their promise to "get out of Afghanistan".  If you kick the can down the street you can't be blamed for a loss - get in and let the next guy take the loss, who cares how many service folks die in the mean time.  Thirteen dead on Biden, thousands dead on Bush, Obama and Trump.

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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2021, 09:20:36 AM »
I call bs on your opinion. To say 13 dead under biden is more then enough to prove that. You say anyway this was done would be a cluster #$&@. Is also proof of bs. This could and would have been handled much better under President Trump. Of course I expect you to disagree...

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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2021, 11:15:20 AM »
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  From NW;

  " To be clear this was a cluster%@&#, but any way you did it it would be. It did not HAVE to go as it did.  Any army squad leader knew better how to pull off a necessary withdrawal, far better than Benedict Biden did. ...And if that corporal had any question, he has FMs and TMs available to consult!  I simply said why didn't folks get out earlier since it was announced in Feb. 2020 we were leaving, and by then the Taliban already controlled over half of the country.  OK..it was announced in 2020 that eventually there would be a withdrawal 
 Things come to an end almost every day..like bell bottom jeans, the model "T" and someday, the last F150 will run off the line... Does that mean suppliers for the F150 should stop supplying parts today!  Our government spends millions of dollars each year, to keep informed of anything going on in the world.  People working for the government and other jobs, were waiting for a final assessment that told them  a Taliban takeover was imminent..a message they apparently never received.
Human nature, wait until the last minute then blame someone else for your poor decision. Human nature told them that the world's #1 super power would notcut and run...leaving them "twisting in the wind"! Should we have sent in about 100,000 to 200,000 troops to drive them completely out???  No, but Benny could have in January, while the Taliban went into annual hibernation..started moving personnel out, gathering ordnance and equipment into Bagram, which is a huge, fortified base..invest only enough troops to maintain a perimeter..then clear it completely..first civilians, then lock, stock and barrel..The biggest mistake Biden made was ACTUALLY getting out (on his watch).  Three Presidents before him knew whoever withdrew would see the Taliban retake the country and thus count it as a loss.  That is why they never made good on their promise to "get out of Afghanistan".  Wow!
 You're as wrong a Biden!  Trump had an effective, SOP  exit plan, but then enough stupid voters aided the robbery and put Biden in office.  If those voters had not betrayed America, we would have all those now stranded, out of that mess.
If you kick the can down the street you can't be blamed for a loss - get in and let the next guy take the loss, who cares how many service folks die in the mean time. There is nothing to indicate that Benny was going to do anything but, kick the can down the road..but since he and his lackeys in the Pentagon and Defense Dept were only concerned LGBTQ  and CRT brain bubbles, the Taliban ran all over their G2..which was already crippled. Thirteen dead on Biden, thousands dead on Bush, Obama and Trump."  Thirteen dead?  Don't count your chickens yet,,the fat lady hasn't even tried a note, say nothing about sing...

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Now comes the REAL blood bath.. our helpers butchered, Americans used as hostage currency, And the Taliban has already promised that any pre-teen, Christian girls discovered, will be "married off' to Taliban "gentlemen"..
Most of this made possible by Biden's abject failure..

  Vast numbers of troops would not be needed to save those abandoned by the OBiden administration.  Former Spec Ops commanders have already said.."form us up and turn us loose..we can do it."  Men like Jocko Willink, Marcus Luttrell and his brother. Medal of Honor holder Dakota Meyer, and many others, echo that call.

   No matter how you try to cover for Benedict Biden..Commander-in-Chief... he has violated a sacred duty...by the thousands..

             Namely, "LEAVE NO MAN BEHIND"...

 
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Re: Part of the ME experience..
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2021, 11:27:13 AM »
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  BTW:  You seem to boast that "only" thirteen of our troops died under OBiden's watch , the last week..

  Just a reminder..before that; no American troops had died there, in the past 18 months !
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Re: Part of the ME experience..
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2021, 07:53:09 AM »
"OK..it was announced in 2020 that eventually there would be a withdrawal "

As usual fact has nothing to do with most post here.  The agreement (Signed by president Trump) called for COMPLETE WITHDRAWAL BY MAY 31 2021.  After the fact EVERYONE would have done a better job, but as usual they were "prevented from doing it by someone else".  They could have done a better job BUT DIDN'T, which is my point.

I would have won the Superbowl but...  or my favorite "There I was out in front when all of a sudden..."

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Re: Part of the ME experience..
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2021, 09:51:44 AM »
Tell that to Kathy McCollum. While your at it, look her up and see what she has to say.

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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2021, 09:53:35 AM »
"OK..it was announced in 2020 that eventually there would be a withdrawal "

As usual fact has nothing to do with most post here.  The agreement (Signed by president Trump) called for COMPLETE WITHDRAWAL BY MAY 31 2021.  After the fact EVERYONE would have done a better job, but as usual they were "prevented from doing it by someone else".  They could have done a better job BUT DIDN'T, which is my point.

I would have won the Superbowl but...  or my favorite "There I was out in front when all of a sudden..."
Your point sucks because a second grader could have done a better job...

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Re: Part of the ME experience..
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2021, 10:16:07 AM »
"OK..it was announced in 2020 that eventually there would be a withdrawal "

As usual fact has nothing to do with most post here.  The agreement (Signed by president Trump) called for COMPLETE WITHDRAWAL BY MAY 31 2021.  After the fact EVERYONE would have done a better job, but as usual they were "prevented from doing it by someone else".  They could have done a better job BUT DIDN'T, which is my point.

I would have won the Superbowl but...  or my favorite "There I was out in front when all of a sudden..."

Do you not see how incredulous your looking when the whole world knows that your hero Biden directly caused the deaths of 13 American soldiers, and some 200 civilians with his inept idiocy and your about the only one that doesn't seem to see it?
Do you enjoy being the only dumbass in the huddle?
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Re: Part of the ME experience..
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2021, 02:37:57 AM »
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  For a guy who has previously seemed to have a bit of conservative leanings, it is interesting to say the least, how you struggle to defend an administration that even exceeds the hapless Carter administration in it's incompetence..

       Like the little kid, caught with chocolate frosting on his face...you give yourself away...
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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2021, 03:47:21 AM »

 (Signed by president Trump) called for COMPLETE WITHDRAWAL BY MAY 31 2021. 

Yes. Evacuation before the fighting season. Its something called STRATEGY.

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« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2021, 03:50:48 AM »
"OK..it was announced in 2020 that eventually there would be a withdrawal "

As usual fact has nothing to do with most post here.  The agreement (Signed by president Trump) called for COMPLETE WITHDRAWAL BY MAY 31 2021.  After the fact EVERYONE would have done a better job, but as usual they were "prevented from doing it by someone else".  They could have done a better job BUT DIDN'T, which is my point.

I would have won the Superbowl but...  or my favorite "There I was out in front when all of a sudden..."

  Nice try, but Benedict trashed one after anotherof Pres Trump's wise agreements !

...He trashed almost all other of Trump's "agreements".. his border wall agreement, his "stay in Mexico" agreement, his drilling/fracking agreement, his pipeline agreements and many other agreements..
 
   Many of these agreement trashings, he did during his first or second day in office.

   If Trump's agreement was so wrong, he could have trashed that one also.  ...But nice try, NW!
     
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Re: Part of the ME experience..
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2021, 07:54:13 AM »
"These interpreters deserve to be rescued..."

Why didn't we start getting them out last year after we told the Taliban we were leaving (signed an agreement to be out by May 31!!)???????
New show Democrat guests were giving the excuses, talking points, last night while trying to say Biden exist was not as bad as it looked.
The main reason, not all said the same thing, was Biden did not want to aggravate the Taliban and cause a conflict.

Trumps agreement was -- IF they did not hold entirely to the agreement , we would return , hunt them down and bomb and kill them to a degree they had never seen; they knew Trump would do exactly as he said which is why no U.S. service men were attacked before this happened.

They knew Biden would cut and run, or at least whom ever is pulling his strings.

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« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2021, 01:02:14 PM »
"These interpreters deserve to be rescued..."

Why didn't we start getting them out last year after we told the Taliban we were leaving (signed an agreement to be out by May 31!!)???????
New show Democrat guests were giving the excuses, talking points, last night while trying to say Biden exist was not as bad as it looked.
The main reason, not all said the same thing, was Biden did not want to aggravate the Taliban and cause a conflict.

Trumps agreement was -- IF they did not hold entirely to the agreement , we would return , hunt them down and bomb and kill them to a degree they had never seen; they knew Trump would do exactly as he said which is why no U.S. service men were attacked before this happened.

They knew Biden would cut and run, or at least whom ever is pulling his strings.
I was posting something similar butt timed out or some such shat...