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5 Month Booster Now Considered by Biden
« on: August 27, 2021, 08:26:21 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/biden-weighs-speeding-up-booster-shot-timeline-by-3-months/ar-AANON6L?ocid=msedgntp

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(Bloomberg) -- President Joe Biden said his administration is considering whether to start booster shots of the coronavirus vaccine as soon as 5 months after people receive a second dose, a move that would accelerate U.S. plans by three months.

Soon after Biden made the comments -- at an Oval Office meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett on Friday -- a White House official said there had been no change in the plan to administer boosters after eight months.

Biden nonetheless said he talked with infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci about the possible timeline change earlier in the day, signaling his interest in studying the issue.

Biden told Bennett that he’s “considering your advice that we should start earlier” in administering boosters in the face of the delta variant, he said. One of the questions, Biden said, is: “Should it be five months?”

Relying substantially on data from Israel, Biden’s senior health team announced a plan this month for any adult to get a booster, beginning Sept. 20, if it’s been eight months since their second shot of either the Pfizer Inc.-BioNTech SE or Moderna Inc. vaccines. That plan is still subject to authorization by the Food and Drug Administration.

The Biden administration cited warning signs that vaccine efficacy is waning over time, and that the shots aren’t as effective against the delta variant. The variant is highly contageous and fueling an increase in coronavirus cases around the country.

But some health experts say it’s not yet clear if boosters are needed for all adults, including the young and healthy.

The White House official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said administration health and medical experts continue to review a range of data. The virus is unpredictable and the administration is planning for every scenario, the official said.

Moderna spokesman Ray Jordan said “we have been in regular dialogue with the FDA on this topic,” and that the company expects to have additional data “within a few weeks.”

Pfizer didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

The other vaccine in use in the U.S. -- a one-shot vaccine from Johnson & Johnson -- was authorized in February and it’s not yet clear what U.S. regulators will recommend for boosters. J&J spokesman Jake Sargent said Friday that the company is working with the FDA and other agencies “regarding boosting with the Johnson & Johnson Covid-19 vaccine.”
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Re: 5 Month Booster Now Considered by Biden
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2021, 08:51:55 AM »
They have found that within 6 months after receiving the vaccine, you shed about 50% of the antibodies, and 5% a month afterwards.  Thus the recurring possible infections.

Israel has 90% of their people vaccinated from about December last year when they started until about February.  Covid went way down in Israel.  Then the new Delta strain came and started infecting people again.  However with much fewer deaths.

About 1-9 people in Israel has been infected or around 10%.  In the US only about 40-45% of the people are vaccinated and the infection rate is 1-5 people and far more deaths.  So the vaccine does reduce the infection rate and the death rate.  Now, granted, Isreal also give people Ivermectin or hydroxi immediately if they are hospitalized also. 

The bad thing about hydrox + zinc or Ivermectin is they destroy the virus and you do not develop any kind of immunity. 

Normally when a vaccine is proposed in the past in the US, 90% of the American people take it.  But, with all the politics and control wanted by the Democrats the conservatives are skeptical.  Also with all the lies the news media tell us, it makes us skeptical.  Unlike the truth in the past. 

I think the vaccine works to ward off the infection, even if imperfect and you would have milder symptoms.  I also think Ivermectin and hydroxi and zinc work but are not recommended because of politics, even though Israel uses both to good use.  Infection rate and death rate in Israel is way lower than the US. 

I have had children, nephews, BIL, SIL, and grandchildren get this stuff.  BIL used hydroxi and zinc and has no antibodies. 

My wife and I got the shots last February and we tested for antibodies 2 weeks afterward and we had antibodies.  We tested 2 weeks before and had no antibodies.  We paid for these tests out of pocket to prove a point.  The shots do create antibodies, but you can shed them and need a booster every 6 months.  Similar to the flu shots needed every year, but every 6 months. 

I understand the view from conservatives and the right.  However, I have a SIL that is a doctor, an RN niece (who works in intensive care) and a cousin that works at our local hospital.  SIL is in Augusta, Ga.  So I am getting first hand information.  Absolutely everyone in our hospital with Covid has NOT had the shots.  It is full right now. 

I hate to say this but there are a lot of lying on the right side of things now, which is sad.  This shouldn't be. 

I also want to say I do not believe in manditory shots or face masks.  Face masks only keep someone who is sick from spreading the disease.  From what I have found out washing hands and sanitizer is 45% more effective than masks. 

Oh, the thing about Israel, most of the covid patients are Muslim women who don't get enough vitamin D, because they are always covered up.  Israel has over 9 million people of which 1 million are Muslim Israeli citizens who are included in their statistics. 

So from everything I have read, getting the shots, taking vitamin D, zinc, vitamin C, and Melitonin at night, can help keep you from getting Covid.  Simple OTC supplements.  The only problem if you do get it, and if you take Ivermectin or Hydroxi + zinc, you will destroy the antibodies as well as the virus, thus a booster shot may be needed.  But death shouldn't be. 

Also, from ALL vaccines, there is always 1 in several million who may die from them, or have problems, but far more will die not being vaccinated.  Trump pushed the companies to get the vaccines out, he also pushed to have them administered free.  So if you have medicare and/or insurance, they will be billed first and what they don't cover, the government picks up the tab.  The vaccines were ready in October before the 2020 election, but they weren't announced until after the election, thus robbing Trump of a victory.  So yeah some of it is political. 
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Re: 5 Month Booster Now Considered by Biden
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2021, 09:04:14 AM »
I have no idea why people think the vaccine debate is a political debate.  For me it had nothing to do with politics, other than freedom of choice now seems to be that view of most of the right now.  Not long ago the most of the people who didn't want vaccines were on the left.  Not to mention my body, my choice if I want to end the life of an unborn child.

Trump was the one who pushed for the vaccine to get to market and made it happen so fast. Even so, you can keep it.   IMO there is very little evidence that the vaccines are doing anything positive aside from pharm stocks.  Enjoy your every 5 month booster!
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Re: 5 Month Booster Now Considered by Biden
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2021, 09:31:09 AM »
 "IMO there is very little evidence that the vaccines are doing anything positive aside from pharm stocks."



Then you didn't read his post.
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Re: 5 Month Booster Now Considered by Biden
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2021, 09:52:10 AM »
Actually he has his own opinion and I agree with it and disagree with yours and dixiedude’s.
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Re: 5 Month Booster Now Considered by Biden
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2021, 09:53:56 AM »
Actually he has his own opinion and I agree with it and disagree with yours and dixiedude’s.


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Re: 5 Month Booster Now Considered by Biden
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2021, 09:57:31 AM »
Actually he has his own opinion and I agree with it and disagree with yours and dixiedude’s.



Had nothing to do with opinion, but rather ignoring the facts presented.  If you want to contest the facts presented, then do so, but don't just say they don't exist "in my opinion".
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2021, 10:23:47 AM »
All of what Dixie Dude presented was opinion based.  For instance: "Israel has 90% of their people vaccinated from about December last year when they started until about February"

Actually Israel has only 75% of their people vaccinated as of right now... Soooo 90% were vaccinated in 3 months???  Some must have had it extracted or something. :o

Or how about: "Normally when a vaccine is proposed in the past in the US, 90% of the American people take it."

Please, oh please show me where 90% of the population gets the a vaccine when it's "proposed".

I could go on, but you get the point...

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Re: 5 Month Booster Now Considered by Biden
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2021, 10:41:54 AM »
All of what Dixie Dude presented was opinion based.  For instance: "Israel has 90% of their people vaccinated from about December last year when they started until about February"

Actually Israel has only 75% of their people vaccinated as of right now... Soooo 90% were vaccinated in 3 months???  Some must have had it extracted or something. :o

Or how about: "Normally when a vaccine is proposed in the past in the US, 90% of the American people take it."

Please, oh please show me where 90% of the population gets the a vaccine when it's "proposed".

I could go on, but you get the point...



Actually about 85% of adults in Israel have been vaccinated.  But, in any event that wasn't an "opinion", but perhaps an error in his facts.  What about the statement of his SIL that everyone in her hospital with Covid has not been vaccinated?  That's not an opinion, but a statement of fact.  If you want to argue her facts are wrong, then do so.  But, to say that "in my opinion" there are no facts is like covering your ears and going nah, nah, nah.
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Re: 5 Month Booster Now Considered by Biden
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2021, 01:24:45 PM »
Actually that is called heresay...

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Re: 5 Month Booster Now Considered by Biden
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2021, 01:59:54 PM »
Actually that is called heresay...



As is nearly every post here.  BTW, we're not in a court of law.
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« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2021, 02:11:03 PM »
Actually that is called heresay...



As is nearly every post here.  BTW, we're not in a court of law.
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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2021, 02:12:44 PM »
On that we agree.   ;)
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Re: 5 Month Booster Now Considered by Biden
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2021, 04:52:25 PM »
I found it on the international Covid 19 web page that said 90% of Israel is vaccinated and they started earlier than other's in December of last year.  I will try to find this report and link it.  My wife showed it to me yesterday. 

All people in my area that are in our local hospital ARE NOT vaccinated.  The vaccinated are not in the hospital.  If that is true here it can't be false everywhere else. 

Anyway this website showed how many people have been infected in every country in the world, how many are vaccinated, and how many have died.  Israel has the most vaccinated and very few % of deaths.  The US has more % infected and far fewer vaccinated. 

I will try to find this information and link it. 
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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2021, 04:36:51 AM »
I've asked drs and nurses for feedback on the booster, good or bad and they all said there no bad reports, very little feedback on it. I saw several drs and a bunch of nurses in the hospitol and here at home. CHARLIE.  :o :o
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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2021, 01:57:18 PM »
***So, if the vaxxed are not in the hospitals, why the immediate emergency call to get everybody booster vaxxed.?

By the way, by basic virology there has never been a viable vaccine against air borne pathogens infecting nasal and mucusal tissues first, because antibodies circulate in the blood. The delay is uncanny.

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Sorry DD,  what you're hearing and seeing on telaversion is simply untrue; and is vax advertising theater.There's hundreds of HC staffers telling the truth about what has been going on in these charnel houses. The real emergencies are coming in a few months when ADE kicks in this winter.

But I will agree to the extent that the vaxxed are made into asymptomatic super spreaders and should be quarantined, especially for six weeks after vaxxation when they shed pathogens  incredibly. Documented in The Lancet by an Oxford Univ study showing vax people have nasal presence of Covid particles 251 times unvaxxed normal people and vaxxed HC workers are therefore infecting normal people. I posted that article several days ago. I posted the Barnstaple breakthru a few weeks ago wherein virtually all sick were vaxxed, and 4 out 5 hospitalized were vaxxed. Furthermore, it is my understanding that virtually all pregnant women vaxxed have had a problem or spontaneously aborted.  Not to mention vaxxed mothers are not to nurse their babies.

Normal unvaxxed people should try to avoid vaxxed chimera spreaders, take vit D, zinc, vit C, quercetin and have Ivermectin available if infected by vaxxed spreaders should the infection goes severe. Most times it's a cold for 4 or 5 days. But if you're a smoker, fat, have a poor diet, diabetic, otherwise unfit, on lots of meds expect a rough case, and you should take ivermectin. If you had Covid SARs enlightened doctors will advise never to be vaxxed as that would be hazardous. The run of the mill AMA charlatans will of course tell you to run out and get the mark of the Beast.
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So here's how hospitals play the game....IF YOU GET VAXXED FIRST OR SECOND JAB AND END UP IN A HOSPITAL WITH COVID OR COMPLICATIONS, YOU ARE NOT CONSIDERED A VAX ADVERSE CASE _ _ YOU ARE CONSIDERED AN UNVAXXED COVID CASE- - BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT DEEMED FULLY VAXXED UNTIL ANTIBODIES KICK IN 2 WEEKS LATER!

Another hospital propaganda ploy is to say their ICU is full to the max with Covid patients. But that is only true in so much as they have nursing staff to cover beds. Ex...a hospital could have 100 ICU beds, but only have staff on board to cover 50 of those beds. So, if they have 50 ICU patients they claim they're overrun with critical care patients, when in reality they attrited away and drove away staff, many of whom want nothing to do with Covid crimes.
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Enough with the "251 times" BS.  If you can read, maybe you can understand what was actually written, not what someone else tells you it means:



Fact Check-Study did not find vaccinated healthcare workers carry 251 times the viral load of those who were unvaccinated


Reuters Fact Check


Social media users are sharing articles that discuss a study examining the transmission of the Delta variant of COVID-19 and falsely claiming the study found that fully vaccinated healthcare workers carry 251 times the viral load compared of those who are unvaccinated.

Examples can be seen here and here .


Many of the posts share an article (archive.ph/ltWYz) posted by the anti-vaccine campaign group Children’s Health Defense on Aug. 23, 2021 with the headline: “Study: Fully Vaccinated Healthcare Workers Carry 251 Times Viral Load, Pose Threat to Unvaccinated Patients, Co-Workers.” The subheading says the study found that “vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.”

This, however, was not the premise of the study. Rather, it sought to compare viral loads among workers with Delta variant vs previous variants of SARS-CoV-2.

The study discussed in the article is visible here as a preprint, which is an early-stage research paper that has not yet been peer-reviewed.



The paper examines breakthrough infections in healthcare workers in Vietnam, all of whom contracted the Delta variant after receiving the Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine.

The paper does not conclude that fully vaccinated healthcare workers carry 251 times the viral load of the virus compared to unvaccinated healthcare workers. Rather, it concludes that “viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020.”

It adds that it found no correlation between vaccine-induced neutralizing antibody levels, and viral loads or developing symptoms.

On page 2 of the paper, the authors say that breakthrough infections of the Delta variant “are associated with high viral loads, prolonged PCR positivity, and low levels of vaccine-induced neutralizing antibodies,” which helps explain the transmission between those who are vaccinated.

Chi Ngo, senior communications officer for the Centre for Tropical Medicine at the Oxford University Clinical Research Unit, told Reuters via email that it does not support any statement shared by the Children’s Health Defense website.

“We support vaccination and believe that vaccination is highly effective against hospitalisation and death from COVID-19,” Ngo said. “This article states that with the Delta variant, safety measures (mask-wearing, hand-washing, social distancing) are still advised to reduce transmission (even if you have been fully vaccinated).”

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) explains on its website here that the Delta variant is more than twice as contagious as previous variants and that vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections of the variant appear to produce the same amount of virus load as those who are unvaccinated.

The viral load does decrease faster in vaccinated individuals compared to unvaccinated individual, meaning that the vaccinated are thought to be contagious for a shorter period of time, according to the CDC.

“This study is about the Delta variant and explaining ‘breakthrough cases’ among vaccinated healthcare workers because of the Delta variant,” Ngo said. “There is no focus on unvaccinated versus the vaccinated cases.”

Reuters emailed the Children’s Health Defense for comment but has not yet heard back.

VERDICT

Misleading. The study found that viral loads of breakthrough COVID-19 cases of the Delta variant were 251 higher compared to cases with other variants detected between March and April 2020. It did not focus on vaccinated vs unvaccinated cases.
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Re: 5 Month Booster Now Considered by Biden
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2021, 03:11:25 PM »
They found NO difference in levels between vaxxed and unvaxxed.  Is that so hard to comprehend?
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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2021, 04:10:26 PM »
First off Biden don't have a clue about any booster shot.  He can't even decide how he wants his eggs in the morning. I hope people soon realize that Biden isn't making any decisions, and he hasn't since he became the counterfeit president. Its a joke to think he is actually making any decisions.  He's told what to do, what to say, what to sign, and even what to eat.  Yet people think he is the one pushing the vaccine. 
 I really don't understand why people are so trusting of this vaccine, when its being pushed by those that hate America. If it had anything to do with protecting people from getting covid, they wouldn't be letting thousands stream across our southern border.  If it had anything to do with protecting people from covid, they would have let doctors treat people with other drugs, and the government swamp doctors would have been telling people how to strengthen their immune systems.  The only drum beat was social distance, wear your mask, stay home, and go get your fake vaccine.  Does anyone think our government gives a rats ass whether you die from covid? IN fact they want people to die, especially alder people. Less drain on SS.
 The reason so many are so trusting of what our Marxist government, or the media, or big pharma is telling us about the vaccine is because of fear, which they all propagated for months beforehand.  How easily everyone forgets all the fear mongering. When people are afraid they easily become a heard of sheep.  Has anyone noticed how big the sheep herd has gotten lately?    I suppose once you get the shot you can find many reasons that you did the right thing. After getting the first shot. Lining up for all the boosters comes easy. After all its going to save you. Its what the Marxists tell us anyway.       
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« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2021, 07:27:06 PM »
  I will be watching how the military mandate works out . How many are going to disobey orders to be jabbed .

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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2021, 08:01:49 PM »
The hospitol I left 2 weeks sago is telling people that unless they have an extreme emergency to stay away because they have so many covid patients also they need more nurses, I can vouch for the lack of nurses after 8 days in there ther nurses are badly overworked. . CHARLIE.  :( :(
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« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2021, 09:33:32 AM »
Always dangerous going to the hospital. That’s where all the sick people are.
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« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2021, 01:56:13 PM »
All of what Dixie Dude presented was opinion based.  For instance: "Israel has 90% of their people vaccinated from about December last year when they started until about February"

Actually Israel has only 75% of their people vaccinated as of right now... Soooo 90% were vaccinated in 3 months???  Some must have had it extracted or something. :o

Or how about: "Normally when a vaccine is proposed in the past in the US, 90% of the American people take it."

Please, oh please show me where 90% of the population gets the a vaccine when it's "proposed".

I could go on, but you get the point...



Actually about 85% of adults in Israel have been vaccinated.  But, in any event that wasn't an "opinion", but perhaps an error in his facts.  What about the statement of his SIL that everyone in her hospital with Covid has not been vaccinated?  That's not an opinion, but a statement of fact.  If you want to argue her facts are wrong, then do so.  But, to say that "in my opinion" there are no facts is like covering your ears and going nah, nah, nah.

I'd love to see where you are getting 85%?  All I find is 75% fully vaccinated, 81% now have first jab, but that's not vaccinated... See for yourself.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=israel+covid+vaccination+%25&form=ANNTH1&refig=dda5ddcfa1b4476aa964634917de7d1d&sp=1&qs=HS&pq=is&sk=PRES1&sc=8-2&cvid=0ce122662e2e479bfbaff959d142e946


And what his SIL says is fact?  Man,,, you should meet my SIL's...   My wife also works in a hospital and there is no official tracking available of such data in hospitals, so unless his SIL works with every single patient in that hospital that has COVID, she or her informant is either lying or is breaking HIPAA laws by looking at such data on people who are not her patients.

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« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2021, 03:39:40 AM »
All of what Dixie Dude presented was opinion based.  For instance: "Israel has 90% of their people vaccinated from about December last year when they started until about February"

Actually Israel has only 75% of their people vaccinated as of right now... Soooo 90% were vaccinated in 3 months???  Some must have had it extracted or something. :o

Or how about: "Normally when a vaccine is proposed in the past in the US, 90% of the American people take it."

Please, oh please show me where 90% of the population gets the a vaccine when it's "proposed".

I could go on, but you get the point...



Actually about 85% of adults in Israel have been vaccinated.  But, in any event that wasn't an "opinion", but perhaps an error in his facts.  What about the statement of his SIL that everyone in her hospital with Covid has not been vaccinated?  That's not an opinion, but a statement of fact.  If you want to argue her facts are wrong, then do so.  But, to say that "in my opinion" there are no facts is like covering your ears and going nah, nah, nah.

I'd love to see where you are getting 85%?  All I find is 75% fully vaccinated, 81% now have first jab, but that's not vaccinated... See for yourself.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=israel+covid+vaccination+%25&form=ANNTH1&refig=dda5ddcfa1b4476aa964634917de7d1d&sp=1&qs=HS&pq=is&sk=PRES1&sc=8-2&cvid=0ce122662e2e479bfbaff959d142e946


And what his SIL says is fact?  Man,,, you should meet my SIL's...   My wife also works in a hospital and there is no official tracking available of such data in hospitals, so unless his SIL works with every single patient in that hospital that has COVID, she or her informant is either lying or is breaking HIPAA laws by looking at such data on people who are not her patients.

No comment from Dixie Dude or Casull on SIL's comments?  Yeah, when you start implicating your family members for breaking federal laws, it's probably better to keep quite...  I guess there is the other possibility that she is making it up as liberals tend to do.  Either way...
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Re: 5 Month Booster Now Considered by Biden
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2021, 08:02:47 AM »
It is a CORONA VIRUS -- the same family of virus that the common cold comes from -- there is NO VACCINE for the common cold or any member of that virus family.
This is political to keep you coming back to the Gov. controlled trough to do as you are told to do; of course after a while you will have to pay for it so drug companies are salivating heavily.

If the liberal press were not making sure deaths, or now, even some one who supposedly has it in his body, are front page news,  it would be back page news
with other news , those who thrive on the morbid read, at best

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Re: 5 Month Booster Now Considered by Biden
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2021, 08:09:18 AM »
It is now shown through a study of 5 million people that anti vaxers are more highly educated.  So much for the media narrative that only the missing-teeth, knuckle-dragging, Neanderthal Trump supporters are against vaccination.   
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Re: 5 Month Booster Now Considered by Biden
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2021, 08:31:02 AM »
"No comment from Dixie Dude or Casull on SIL's comments?  Yeah, when you start implicating your family members for breaking federal laws, it's probably better to keep quite...  I guess there is the other possibility that she is making it up as liberals tend to do.  Either way..."



Been a way for a few days, so no mystery there.  As to SIL, I was trying to explain to Mule that it was a statement of "fact" and not an opinion.  Statements of fact can be wrong.  If you actually read my posts, you might remember that I said if he wants to dispute her "facts" then do so, but don't call them "opinions".
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Re: 5 Month Booster Now Considered by Biden
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2021, 01:58:02 PM »


A truck carrying 1.6 million doses of overturned in West Virginia. DoD and Homeland Security called in. Accident scene declared high security and hazmat called in. Made a no fly zone and no reporters allowed.


I actually got held up in that road block. It happened on 79 south of Morgantown. I was lucky to be able to turn around and escape off an exit. they shut both lanes down on north 79 for a truck that went over the bank off of 79. I wondered why they had to shut two lanes down for a truck that went over an embankment off the highway.  The next day I found out why. It was carrying vaccines that were going to get shipped overseas.  Hazmat was called in, and people are putting this crap in their bodies at will.
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Re: 5 Month Booster Now Considered by Biden
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2021, 02:03:45 AM »
"No comment from Dixie Dude or Casull on SIL's comments?  Yeah, when you start implicating your family members for breaking federal laws, it's probably better to keep quite...  I guess there is the other possibility that she is making it up as liberals tend to do.  Either way..."



Been a way for a few days, so no mystery there.  As to SIL, I was trying to explain to Mule that it was a statement of "fact" and not an opinion.  Statements of fact can be wrong.  If you actually read my posts, you might remember that I said if he wants to dispute her "facts" then do so, but don't call them "opinions".

I respectfully disagree.  A fact is a something that is proven to be true.  Someone stating something does not make it a fact.  I could say that I saw the moon explode last night.  Does that make it a fact?  It's a fact that I said it, but that's about as factual as it gets...

As stated before, which was the meat of my post -  she or her informant is either lying about all COVID patients being unvaccinated or is breaking HIPAA laws by looking at such data on people who are not her patients.
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