In light of Obiden's desertion of people equipment and friends in Afghanistan.

[ironglow]

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  Try this 'never happened' scenario;

  Timeline: 1775  Fort Boonesboro just completed, and settlers all in behind it's log stockade

    The Shawnees have gathered a large force and moving through the woods to raid Boonesboro.

  Boone and other leaders confer, then call a meeting to gather the settlers and inform them of the next move.

   What's the next move?  Well, they plan to desert their log palisade, abandon all their guns, ammo, supplies and equipment, leaving them for the Indians.

  So the settlers ask..what do we do then?  Boone replies.."We figure we plan to take 2 riflemen, a bit of pemmican, and set up behind that brushy hedge hedge 200 yards west !  Then we will ask the Shawnees to be nice."

   Tell us...  What do you think those settlers, many of them illiterate, told Boone and the other leaders ?
 

[BUGEYE]

We'll stay and give them "injuns" a good butt whuppin.

[DEACONLLB]

What we had back then was real men and real leaders willing to do what it took to win. Today we don't have real leaders, we do gave real men in the arm services to do the job but no one willing to say follow me. they had no rules of engagement, if shot at shoot back that was the rules. No calling some big wig general some place to see if it was ok and maybe not being able to get him to take the call. When I was in the Korean war as far as I know if shot at shoot back or in some cases shoot first ask questions later.

Deaconllb

[BUGEYE]

What we had back then was real men and real leaders willing to do what it took to win. Today we don't have real leaders, we do gave real men in the arm services to do the job but no one willing to say follow me. they had no rules of engagement, if shot at shoot back that was the rules. No calling some big wig general some place to see if it was ok and maybe not being able to get him to take the call. When I was in the Korean war as far as I know if shot at shoot back or in some cases shoot first ask questions later.

Deaconllb

I admire our young men and women of the military, they volunteered to do a job.
But, as you say, the leaders won't let them do that job.
They tie the hands of the greatest fighting force in the world.

I try not to let a military person get by me without I say, Thank you for your service, and GOD bless you.

[ironglow]

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  Agreed..don't letthe dismal performance of some politically inspired general officers, reflect negatively
  upon..Pvt John Q. !