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SOME TEXAS churches say butchering babies is a moral and social good.
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Texas ‘Churches’ Claim Abortion Is ‘a Moral and Social Good’
Pro-Life, Abortion
By
Ken Ham
September 17, 2021


What is abortion—a hideous evil or “a moral and social good”? Well, that depends on your starting point, God’s Word or man’s word! Sinful human beings, who are in rebellion against God and ignore his Word and look to their own selfish, dark hearts for “truth,” will affirm darkness instead of light, death instead of life, and call good evil and evil good (Isaiah 5:20).

The state of Texas has been in the news recently because lawmakers have enacted a “heartbeat bill” that bans abortions after a heartbeat can be detected (usually around six weeks’ gestational age). This is, of course, a good step in saving unborn lives, but it doesn’t go far enough as every person is fully human from the moment of fertilization, not just when a heartbeat can be detected. But a coalition of 25 “churches” in Texas believes the opposite and is fighting to “eradicate stigma around reproductive freedom in Texas . . . one congregation at a time.”

Three Guiding Principles
Any congregation that wants to join the coalition (so far most of the “churches” are Unitarian Universalist, with some Presbyterian and one Baptist congregation as well) must affirm the following three principles:

“We trust and respect women.”
“We promise that people who attend our congregation will be free from stigma, shame, or judgment for their reproductive decisions, including abortion.”
“We believe access to comprehensive and affordable reproductive health services is a moral and social good.”
Trust and Respect Those Who Murder?
To this group, “trust and respect women” means “allow women to make whatever choices they want—even murder—and applaud them for doing so, contrary to the clear teaching of the Word of God (e.g., Exodus 20:13).”

No Pricking of the Conscience Here!
A congregation “free from stigma, shame, or judgment” actually means “we will never judge your beliefs or actions against the authority of the Word of God (Philippians 1:9–11) and allow the Holy Spirit, through the bold, uncompromising preaching of his Word (John 16:7–8), to convict you and draw you to repentance. Instead, we will ‘lovingly’ affirm your sin (Romans 1:32) and allow the unrepentant to continue on a path towards eternal damnation (Revelation 21:Cool”

A Double Standard?
As an aside before I get to the third point . . . do they hold this same standard for men in the congregation? If a young man fathers a child and then runs away, abandoning the young woman and the child, is he “trusted and respected” and freed from “stigma, shame, or judgment” for child abandonment? Likely they would not feel that way towards the father. But why the double standard? (And in his case, he merely abandoned the child—he didn’t murder him or her, as happens in an abortion!)

Or if, when the child is born, the man (or woman) decides he was not ready to be a parent, this child is too expensive, or this child simply doesn’t fit with his lifestyle, and he murders that child (which is exactly the same thing as abortion, just a different location and level of development—still the same child, made in God’s image (Genesis 1:27)!), will the church trust and respect him, offering him an affirming “safe space”? Very likely they would be horrified and turn him over to the authorities! But why the double standard? Why is the child’s life suddenly valuable, simply because he or she has been born?

Health Care or Death Care?
On to number three: By “comprehensive and affordable reproductive health services,” they really mean “we believe in the freedom for a mother to murder her unborn child.” Health care does not result in the intentional death of a human being. That’s not health care . . . that’s murder!

And by “moral and social good,” they mean “by our arbitrary standard of right and wrong, we believe murder is a good (moral) way of addressing social issues such as poverty, fatherlessness, illness, disability, child abandonment, abuse, etc.” But killing people is not the compassionate way of addressing these issues! These churches need to reject our culture’s thinking and embrace the compassion of Christ who commanded his church to care for orphans and widows (James 1:27)—not kill them—and to speak up for the poor and destitute, who have no voice (Proverbs 31:9).

The Lord Hates Murder
Many, many, many churches, organizations, and individuals across this nation are providing compassionate, practical, life-saving care to mothers, fathers, and babies in need. Instead of advocating the killing of the unborn, let’s base our thinking on the Word of God—not what is “easiest,” most “convenient,” or most socially acceptable—and understand and call out abortion for what it is—a hideous evil.

“The Lord hates . . . hands that shed innocent blood” (Proverbs 6:16–19).

Neglecting the Most Important Message
By refusing to call out sin and urge people to repentance, these “churches” are neglecting to present women with the gospel. People need to understand that all have sinned (Romans 3:23) and stand guilty before a holy God. Yes, abortion is a sin, but that’s why Christ came—to save sinners! He died on the cross, in our place, and took the penalty of death we deserve upon himself. Then he rose from the grave, conquering sin and death. He now freely offers new, eternal life and forgiveness from our sins to everyone who will repent and trust in him. And for those who have done so—no matter what they have done—they stand forgiven before the Father, no longer condemned because of what Jesus has done.

1 John 1:9 KJV – “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

Romans 8:1 KJV – “There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus”

Romans 10:9 KJV – “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

John 3:16-18 KJV – “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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  While all that is disgusting and very likely true, I wish the lead line would say .."SOME Texas churches say butcering babies is a moral and social good."

  The original writer was painting with far too broad a brush..
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Many times an individuals' "perception" isn't reality.

Point? These folks in these Texas churches aren't living reality. These churches are leading them astray, as have been several organizations claiming Christianity for several centuries, but regarding different issues.

Like these churches, which aren't really churches at all, have adopted false doctrine, and just like millions of other Christians, many of their members who know better, will keep their mouths shut to avoid conflict, and confrontation.

The Gospel of Jesus Christ is by its very nature, convicting and confrontational. Thats why many of todays preachers, and  congregations, of all denominations avoid it.

All you can do is give'm the truth and hope they listen, but most of the time they don't.

Calling a spade a shovel ain't as popular as it once was. People ignorantly believe lies, and people that know better, let'em.
You may all go to hell, I will go to Texas. Davy Crockett

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Many times an individuals' "perception" isn't reality.

Point? These folks in these Texas churches aren't living reality. These churches are leading them astray, as have been several organizations claiming Christianity for several centuries, but regarding different issues.

Like these churches, which aren't really churches at all, have adopted false doctrine, and just like millions of other Christians, many of their members who know better, will keep their mouths shut to avoid conflict, and confrontation.

The Gospel of Jesus Christ is by its very nature, convicting and confrontational. Thats why many of todays preachers, and  congregations, of all denominations avoid it.

All you can do is give'm the truth and hope they listen, but most of the time they don't.

Calling a spade a shovel ain't as popular as it once was. People ignorantly believe lies, and people that know better, let'em.
Yeah, butt, it boosts attendance and the offering.

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Boosts attendance and everybody fits in.
You may all go to hell, I will go to Texas. Davy Crockett

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Boosts attendance and everybody fits in.

Yes entertain people, and tell them what they want to hear. It all seems to fill churches, and the pastors at these fake churches get fill their pockets.  Its a big incentive for them to lie.
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Re: SOME TEXAS churches say butchering babies is a moral and social good.
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2021, 01:38:05 PM »
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   Some church leaders seem to forget..we are supposed to conform our lives to fit the the message...not re-conform the message to fit or lives...
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