Covid and flu shot combo likely to kill those who get both

[Matt]

Proteins that contaminate influenza vaccines have high homology to SARS-CoV-2 proteins thus increasing risk of severe COVID-19 disease and mortality

Influenza vaccines are manufactured using chicken eggs, canine kidney cells or insect cells. Chicken and dogs can be infected with numerous viruses including coronaviruses. Therefore influenza vaccines can be contaminated with coronavirus proteins. These coronavirus proteins of course have high homology to SARS-CoV-2 proteins. Further, we show that even chicken egg proteins have high homology to SARS-CoV-2 proteins. Influenza vaccine administration is known to create IgE mediated sensitization (allergy) to all proteins in the vaccine. In fact, vaccine-induced egg allergy is required for the vaccine to work and protect against influenza. This is because most influenza vaccines lack an adjuvant and they depend on the allergic reaction at the injection site to provide an adjuvant effect.

Upon COVID-19 infection, patients will suffer an allergic reaction due to cross reaction against SARS-CoV-2 proteins. This predictably produces anaphylaxis symptoms. Since the viral load increases over a few days, we have slow rolling anaphylaxis. The result is damage to multiple organs. Acute respiratory distress syndrome results from lung damage. Cardiac injury due to Kounis syndrome. Coagulation dysfunction, hypotension and shock are other possible outcomes. As in anaphylaxis treatment, epinephrine, histamine H1 and H2 blockers, etc. help prevent or treat these conditions.

https://zenodo.org/record/3997694

[oldandslow]

Apparently no one has told you the covid vaccine is safe. 

Extreme sarcasm on my part. I will get my flu shot as I don't have to worry about a reaction with the "safe" covid so called vaccine, not having or going to have it.

[DDZ]

I never had a flu shot in my life, and I'm not going to start.  I guess time will tell, because there are a lot of falsely frightened people that got the fake covid shot, that are going to run out and get their flu shot also.

[gene_225]

Had both last time, so I'll probably have both this time too. If I die of it, I'll let you know.

[Dee]

Haven't heard anything about this one, and can't find any warnings of getting both, even at the same time.
I usually get a flu shot every year. Likely will this year.

[Ranger99]

I'll have to pass on all of them.
I had a flu shot some years back
when the place I worked for paid
for all the employees to get one.
( companies used to pay for things
for employees before the days of
investment groups and before the
medical systems got screwed up by
gubmint intervention)

Although many say it's impossible,
my flu shot made me very ill

I don't take them anymore

[Dee]

Flu shots a free at just about any pharmacy these days. The shot is a choice Linda made for me several years ago, so to avoid the lecture, I just roll my sleeve up.

[Mule 11]

At least the flu shot is a vaccine and contains what the experts think the flu strain will be this year. Could be effective. Could be useless as tits on a hog. I’ll pass as I’m not a lottery player. The govid shot on the other hand is not a vax by any stretch of your Imagination...

[powderman]

Had both last time, so I'll probably have both this time too. If I die of it, I'll let you know.

YEP, me too. We get the flu shot in late OCT every year. CHARLIE. 

[gene_225]

Had both last time, so I'll probably have both this time too. If I die of it, I'll let you know.

Got my third shot today. It's a little hard coordinating the third leg that just appeared,  but so far I'm not dead. Had the flu shot several weeks ago.  I'll let you know if I do die.

[Dee]

Had both last time, so I'll probably have both this time too. If I die of it, I'll let you know.

YEP, me too. We get the flu shot in late OCT every year. CHARLIE. 

Well, Charlie didn't die right away, but...

His health had long since gone south, and there's no way the combination had anything to do with his dying.
RIP Charlie,

[quickdtoo]

The wife and I got our covid boosters and flu vax on Oct 2nd, she can only take shots in her right arm due to her left arm lymph nodes being removed during her mastectomy, so I also got both of mine in the same arm, we only had sore arms for a couple days, no other side effects.

Tim

[Dee]

Had a nephew come down with covid months ago, recovered, then took the jab.
More recently, my oldest grandson caught covid-19, his wife didn't. He recovered also.
The day after he was released to go back to work, he took the jab to keep his job.

[darkgael]

Had my third covid and a flu shot two weeks ago. Aside from an achy shoulder, I have had no problems.

[Mule 11]

I’ve had govid-19 and no achy shoulder or sore ass from bending over...

[Lloyd Smale]

want numbers. Less then one percent of the covid deaths in 2021 were vaccinated people. I had both with no problems what so ever. Ive also had the flu shot since the third year i was a lineman so lets say 28 years. First two years of going from the cold outdoors to the warm truck and being exposed to the public every day over and over i was sick multiple times a year. I havent had more then sniffles since then. That said i do keep in shape and im sure that helps too. Dad and ma are 89 and 91. Been getting the flu shot for at least as long as me and it sure hasnt killed them. Had there covid shots and did get covid but only had mild symptoms. I fear what would have happened to them if they hadnt because there not in great shape these days. If i make it to 90 id consider myself a lucky man. Pretty easy to sort through. Raise your hand if you know someone that was unvaccinated that died from covid. Now raise your hand if you know someone that died because of that shot. Pretty much a no brainer that its beneficial for most. That said i do NOT think it should be forced on anyone.

[darkgael]

"want numbers. Less then one percent of the covid deaths in 2021 were vaccinated people."

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Sure do want numbers, and 2021 isn't over yet.
But Lloyd, certainly would like to see the source for that statistic.  Do you have a link?

Because data coming out England, Scotland, ireland, Gilbalta, Israel, certain states, etc. show the majority of Covid 19 deaths occur among vaxxinated people at this time. In fact, data shows deaths caused by other than Covid is higher among experimental vaxxed people, too.
Even mainstream media has slipped up and called it now a Pandemic of the Vaxxinated.
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Just now I did three internet searches looking for current statistics for deaths in the UK, Austria and Germany. The results of those searches are pretty much the opposite if what you have posted. The vast majority of recent covid deaths are among the unvaccinated.

[darkgael]

WHO exec director Robb Butler

Let me be absolutely clear, the majority of people in ICU, in intensive care units and ICU today, are the unvaccinated" Butler said in an interview with Sky News.

[Dee]

I doubt there's anybody on GBO with the credentials to make a credible assessment of covid, or any of the vaccines, or combinations of vaccines, or the mixing with other vaccines.
Anybody, can find "absolute proof" of their stance on this issue, or any other issue on the internet.


My stance is: Hell, I don't know.  I'm like a lotta other folks that are skeptical of a new untested vaccine that kills some folks, and doesn't really affect others.

I'm skeptical of a flu virus called covid-19, that kills some folks, makes some sick, but they recover, and doesn't make others sick at all.

[Dixie-Dude]

No one has looked into this.  There are over 70 million cats and 60 million dogs in the US.  They can get Covid too.  They can spread it to each other if left to roam free.  They can also spread it to each other if the owners board their animals during travels or vacations.  Owners with pets that get covid don't know if their pet has it, and can pick it up from them.  I wish someone would look into this and test the animals as well as testing the human owners.  Cats in my neighborhood roam freely at night even though there is a leash law.  Dogs rarely are seen without a leash. 

[DDZ]

Heck the head swamp doctor, Fauci even said that the vaxxed being hospitalized is on the rise.  Look at a state like Vermont where its said more people are fully vaxinated there than any other state, yet they are leading in covid cases per capita.  Cases of covid in Vermont shot up 31% during the first week of November. So any protection that the fake vaccine did offer is obviously waning.   One thing I see is that any negative information regarding the vaccine is being covered up. Like the information from the VAERS for instance. That alone makes me ask why.  Anyone with an open mind that looks at this cover up can figure out there are obvious lies being told about this vaccine, and truth being covered up.     

[Lloyd Smale]

heres one. Do a search and youll find a ton of them.
 https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/8/10/22618163/covid-deaths-vaccinated-data-how-many-die

what i dont understand is why the pro vaccine people call the anti vax people stupid and the anti vax people call the vacinated stupid. All foolishly trying to convince the other side there idiots Most if not all of us here think its a personal decision. Dont think anyone on here is so much in the dark that they need someone else on here to convince them there wrong. Why not leave it at a freedom to choose without all the waco links on both sides that are for the most part bs lies to get you to believe there side. Look with your own eyes and your own experience and make your OWN decision. .

"want numbers. Less then one percent of the covid deaths in 2021 were vaccinated people."

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Sure do want numbers, and 2021 isn't over yet.
But Lloyd, certainly would like to see the source for that statistic.  Do you have a link?

Because data coming out England, Scotland, ireland, Gilbalta, Israel, certain states, etc. show the majority of Covid 19 deaths occur among vaxxinated people at this time. In fact, data shows deaths caused by other than Covid is higher among experimental vaxxed people, too.
Even mainstream media has slipped up and called it now a Pandemic of the Vaxxinated.
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[mcbammer]

heres one. Do a search and youll find a ton of them.
 https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/8/10/22618163/covid-deaths-vaccinated-data-how-many-die

what i dont understand is why the pro vaccine people call the anti vax people stupid and the anti vax people call the vacinated stupid. All foolishly trying to convince the other side there idiots Most if not all of us here think its a personal decision. Dont think anyone on here is so much in the dark that they need someone else on here to convince them there wrong. Why not leave it at a freedom to choose without all the waco links on both sides that are for the most part bs lies to get you to believe there side. Look with your own eyes and your own experience and make your OWN decision. .
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[/quote]  Problem is mandates force a decision one might not otherwise make .

[Mule 11]

Actually the Vaxers call the anti jab group stupid or conspiracy theorists to influence the undecided or hesitant to get the shot the same way leftists and media lie to get people to riot. Trust those that lie at your own risk.

[Lloyd Smale]

dont know but i do know president trump got vacinated as have most conservative polititians. Im sure if he felt it was a conspiracy or some left wing thing hed be the first to stand up and say so. As to the forced mandates. Im against it as much or more then people who dont want the shot. BIG differnce in someone who wanted and got the vaccine then someone trying to force people against there will. Calling everyone vaxers that got it is like the liberals calling that kid a terrorist, white supremist or a militia member. Why lower ourselves to there level.

[Mule 11]

Actually every able bodied male is a militia member. I don’t see this as a 50/50 split on jab and no jab. Only a small percentage are trying to force any agenda.

[darkgael]

TM: You want data? Why? You are not going to believe any data that is different from what you have. I looked into the sources that you have linked.....Humans are Free and Daily Expose. Neither has a reputation for accuracy or journalistic integrity. A telling criticism of Humans Are Free is from Fact Check:
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 “Everything on this website is fiction. It is not a lie and it is not fake news because it is not real.”

[Mule 11]

TM: You want data? Why? You are not going to believe any data that is different from what you have. I looked into the sources that you have linked.....Humans are Free and Daily Expose. Neither has a reputation for accuracy or journalistic integrity. A telling criticism of Humans Are Free is from Fact Check:
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 “Everything on this website is fiction. It is not a lie and it is not fake news because it is not real.”

And. The source of your fact check? This is not just between 2. No matter how important some think they are. Including myself.

[locust]

talked to a guy i all most see every day then there was a big skip . he said he had covid and was in quarantine . his wife had gotten the vaccine and the boost and was sicker than he was. 

[DDZ]

heres one. Do a search and youll find a ton of them.
 https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/8/10/22618163/covid-deaths-vaccinated-data-how-many-die

what i dont understand is why the pro vaccine people call the anti vax people stupid and the anti vax people call the vacinated stupid. All foolishly trying to convince the other side there idiots Most if not all of us here think its a personal decision. Dont think anyone on here is so much in the dark that they need someone else on here to convince them there wrong. Why not leave it at a freedom to choose without all the waco links on both sides that are for the most part bs lies to get you to believe there side. Look with your own eyes and your own experience and make your OWN decision. .

"want numbers. Less then one percent of the covid deaths in 2021 were vaccinated people."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Sure do want numbers, and 2021 isn't over yet.
But Lloyd, certainly would like to see the source for that statistic.  Do you have a link?

Because data coming out England, Scotland, ireland, Gilbalta, Israel, certain states, etc. show the majority of Covid 19 deaths occur among vaxxinated people at this time. In fact, data shows deaths caused by other than Covid is higher among experimental vaxxed people, too.
Even mainstream media has slipped up and called it now a Pandemic of the Vaxxinated.
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I don't think anyone here is calling anyone stupid. Not that I have seen anyway.  The argument comes from the anti vaxxers, due to the lies propagated by the pro vaxxers. Just for instance one of the fat ones is the lie is that you need to get the vax to protect those around you. That lie is and has been nothing but BS. In fact A friend of mine who is unvaxxed got covid from someone that was vaxxed. The vaxxed can get covid and spread it just as easily as an unvaxxed person, but they have to keep the lie rolling so people step up to get the jab.