Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?

[Dee]

preach to us old wize one. Judge us unworthy sitting on your throne in front of your computer in your fruit of the lombs.

one here  that doesnt debate just happened to start his own section here a few years ago just to do that. Within weeks it became nothing but a pissing match because only one was correct. Short memories here. Id be ironglow remembers it as does pastor and a few more.

Roman Catholic Apostacy

https://www.christiantruthcenter.com/the-roman-catholic-church/

Why So Many Pedophile Catholic Priests

Https://www.returnofkings.com/190738/why-are-there-so-many-pedophile-priests-in-the-catholic-church

[locust]

preach to us old wize one. Judge us unworthy sitting on your throne in front of your computer in your fruit of the lombs.

one here  that doesnt debate just happened to start his own section here a few years ago just to do that. Within weeks it became nothing but a pissing match because only one was correct. Short memories here. Id be ironglow remembers it as does pastor and a few more.

Roman Catholic Apostacy

https://www.christiantruthcenter.com/the-roman-catholic-church/

Rev.18:4 or stay right where you are matthew 24:40 and get taken ....out

[Fixit]

This locust fella sounds an awful lot like a certain jw that brought about a very extended discussion stream on the old site, and if it is that person, I will simply say, we need to stop feeding the trolls....we get overwound over people who are doing nothing more than punching our buttons, and getting their jollies in the process!

[Dee]

Button pushers have a target rich environment here.   

[ironglow]

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This locust fella sounds an awful lot like a certain jw that brought about a very extended discussion stream on the old site, and if it is that person, I will simply say, we need to stop feeding the trolls....we get overwound over people who are doing nothing more than punching our buttons, and getting their jollies in the process!
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  ..Keep in mind, that Locust fellow (?), has not yet owned up to the JW error!  The reason I put (?) after the term Locust, is because if you recall, one JW started out trying to sell us, but he did not do so well.  So he called in a female..who tried in a more sophisticated way, but she still struck out.

     In his(?) post # 105, locust says the Bible is wrong in it's translation of (John 1:1)...

  How effective can any teacher be, who denies the very text book for the subject ?

[locust]

i believe i see where it is that so many bibles are incorrect at John 1:1 .part of it is because most bibles lean toward the false idea that there is a trinity. its a biased thing.
and then there is the thing that happens when one language is translated into a different language . something gets lost .  we should know that when we see ''God'' in scripture it refers to the most high God , when the bible refers to another god  the ''g'' is lower case .

use a Greek to English translator ,every time i used  either upper case or lower case ''G or g''  it always translated it as if were upper case G   .  that would be a major failing .
when turning Greek to English as with john 1:1 both upper case and lower case would be used when understood in English  . its clearly referring to two different beings . one that is the high God and one that is not.

WOW thats why you guy's are so messed up you have bad bibles

[ironglow]

i believe i see where it is that so many bibles are incorrect at John 1:1 .part of it is because most bibles lean toward the false idea that there is a trinity. its a biased thing.
and then there is the thing that happens when one language is translated into a different language . something gets lost .  we should know that when we see ''God'' in scripture it refers to the most high God , when the bible refers to another god  the ''g'' is lower case .

use a Greek to English translator ,every time i used  either upper case or lower case ''G or g''  it always translated it as if were upper case G   .  that would be a major failing .
when turning Greek to English as with john 1:1 both upper case and lower case would be used when understood in English  . its clearly referring to two different beings . one that is the high God and one that is not.

WOW thats why you guy's are so messed up you have bad bibles

     
     Yeah..we got it now...  Do you think those self appointed gurus who hang around the hindquarters in Brooklyn, know the Bible better than all the learned translators who ever lived in history.

   Do they also know more about linguistics, history, archaeology, ancient civilizations and customs and humanity, than all the universities such as Liberty, Regent, BIOLA, Wheaton, Dallas theological seminary and at least a hundred other validated colleges do?
 
    Or is it just your learned self, who has decided that error supercedes scholasticism?

   Have you called upon Thomas Nelson and some of the other publishers, to inform them of these gross mistakes?  How about the Wycliffe translators?  Will you allow them to continue in such error?  Perhaps your linguistic experts can Challenge Wycliffe's credibility.

   Have you considered ancient cultural differences and language colloquialisms?

  Strange isn't it...how all the various linguistic professionals, working independently..can come to what is very basic agreement...but you differ..

  Do your ancient language credentials exceed those in the various Bible based universitites?  ..Just asking..

[locust]

you believe some thing of a trinity exists ,which tells me you have a biased attitude toward scripture . scripture says we are made in his image. yet a have to wonder what in all of creation fits the model of a trinity . not man !  even woman the wife was to be a helper ,a complement to man . even Jesus is known to be a helper to his God,
when the idea of a trinity is removed that house of card's falls apart . of all the souls that inhabit this earth, man is the only one that is most like God

[Bob Riebe]

WOW thats why you guy's are so messed up you have bad bibles

Your god wannabe leader had the Bible rewritten to exclude anything that did not make him a god.

[locust]

WOW thats why you guy's are so messed up you have bad bibles

Your god wannabe leader had the Bible rewritten to exclude anything that did not make him a god.

my leader is Jesus . maybe you have heard of him. no he does not want to be God

[Bob Riebe]

my leader is Jesus . maybe you have heard of him. no he does not want to be God
[/quote]Sorry the dude you follow blindly is :

The movement split into several rival organizations after Russell's death in 1916, with one—led by Joseph "Judge" Rutherford—retaining control of The Watch Tower and the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. Under Rutherford's direction, the International Bible Students Association introduced significant doctrinal changes that resulted in many long-term members leaving the organization. The group regrew rapidly, particularly in the mid-1930s with the introduction of new preaching methods.  In 1931, the name Jehovah's witnesses was adopted, further cutting ties with Russell's earlier followers.

Substantial organizational changes continued as congregations and teaching programs worldwide came under centralized control. Further changes of its doctrines led to the prohibition of blood transfusions by members, abandonment of the cross in worship, rejection of Christmas and birthday celebrations and the view of the biblical Armageddon as a global war by God that will destroy the wicked and restore peace on earth.
In 1945, the Watch Tower Society, which Russell had founded as a publishing house, amended its charter to state that its purposes included preaching about God's Kingdom, acting as a servant and governing agency of Jehovah's Witnesses and sending out missionaries and teachers for the public worship of God and Jesus.

The smart people left .

[locust]

my leader is Jesus . maybe you have heard of him. no he does not want to be God

Sorry the dude you follow blindly is :





The smart people left .
[/quote] John 6:66-69
American Standard Version
"66 Upon this many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. 67 Jesus said therefore unto the twelve, Would ye also go away? 68 Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. 69 And we have believed and know that thou art the Holy One of God."
leaving does not make one smart ,

[locust]

Luke 9:62

[ironglow]

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  From Locust

   my leader is Jesus . maybe you have heard of him. no he does not want to be God."
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     A major principle, Only God is to be worshipped...nobody else..

     The apostles refused worship;

  Peter: (Acts 10:24-27)

    Paul & Barnabus:  (Acts 14)

    Even angels refused worship..saying "worship God only"..  (Rev 19:10) ..   (Rev 22:

    But Jesus accepted worship worship..so what does that make Him

    Jesus accepts  (Matt 2:11)  (Matt 14:33)  (Matt 28:16,17) (John 9:36-38) 
   
    (Hebrews 1:6) says..  "And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him".

....But of course, like all JWs, you are "trained" to ignore scriptural truths such as above...and go on spouting your talking points..just as the "elder' told you to do..even though you may be saying that Jesus was "mistaken" !

[locust]

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  From Locust

   "my leader is Jesus . maybe you have heard of him. no he does not want to be God.[color]
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     A major principle, Only God is to be worshipped...nobody else..

     The apostles refused worship;

  Peter: (Acts 10:24-27)

    Paul & Barnabus:  (Acts 14)

    Even angels refused worship..saying "worship God only"..  (Rev 19:10) ..   (Rev 22:

    But Jesus accepted worship worship..so what does that make Him

    Jesus accepts  (Matt 2:11)  (Matt 14:33)  (Matt 28:16,17) (John 9:36-38) 
   
    (Hebrews 1:6) says..  "And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him".

....But of course, like all JWs, you are "trained" to ignore scriptural truths such as above...and go on spouting your talking points..just as the "elder' told you to do..even though you may be saying that Jesus was "mistaken" !

i would suggest not making a act of obeisance ,a gesture expressing deferential respect such as a bow, confuse an understanding of what was happening  and expected from a lesser  being.

[locust]

i do like the Byington bible. Rev 19:10   And I threw myself down before his feet to do him reverence; and he said to me “See that you do not! I am a fellow-servant with you and your brothers that have the testimony of Jesus; do reverence to God. For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy




 

[ironglow]

i do like the Byington bible. Rev 19:10   And I threw myself down before his feet to do him reverence; and he said to me “See that you do not! I am a fellow-servant with you and your brothers that have the testimony of Jesus; do reverence to God. For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy

  Well..the approval of the spurious "Byington bible", tips your hidden hand again.  Perhaps you did not know it , but Stephen Byington was an anarchist, who strove to discredit belief in Christ !
   
  Check it for yourself:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_T._Byington

     Here is your expose' ... From the article;

       " Over the course of sixty years he translated the Bible from original texts and entitled it The Bible in Living English. It was published posthumously in 1972 in New York by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. He published a review of the New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures, the English translation usually associated with Jehovah's Witnesses, in The Christian Century magazine, November 1, 1950, in which he indicated the translation was "well supplied with faults and merits."

   Notice..Even he explains that the JW's ...New World Translation...was "well supplied with faults and merits"...

[ironglow]

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   Since you now admit to endorse this esoteric book which has been published by the Watchtower only, will you now admit your entanglement with them ?

     Believers should not lie, either by commission or omission...

      ...But then again, your book "Make sure of All Things", says it is OK to lie to unbelievers, doesn't it !

  At least the one published in the 1970s did...

[locust]

i do like the Byington bible. Rev 19:10   And I threw myself down before his feet to do him reverence; and he said to me “See that you do not! I am a fellow-servant with you and your brothers that have the testimony of Jesus; do reverence to God. For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy

  Well..the approval of the spurious "Byington bible", tips your hidden hand again.  Perhaps you did not know it , but Stephen Byington was an anarchist, who strove to discredit belief in Christ !
   
  Check it for yourself:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_T._Byington

     Here is your expose' ... From the article;

       " Over the course of sixty years he translated the Bible from original texts and entitled it The Bible in Living English. It was published posthumously in 1972 in New York by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. He published a review of the New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures, the English translation usually associated with Jehovah's Witnesses, in The Christian Century magazine, November 1, 1950, in which he indicated the translation was "well supplied with faults and merits."

   Notice..Even he explains that the JW's ...New World Translation...was "well supplied with faults and merits"...

if you dont like it is must be good

[locust]

i do like the Byington bible. Rev 19:10   And I threw myself down before his feet to do him reverence; and he said to me “See that you do not! I am a fellow-servant with you and your brothers that have the testimony of Jesus; do reverence to God. For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy

  Well..the approval of the spurious "Byington bible", tips your hidden hand again.  Perhaps you did not know it , but Stephen Byington was an anarchist, who strove to discredit belief in Christ !
   
  Check it for yourself:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_T._Byington

     Here is your expose' ... From the article;

       " Over the course of sixty years he translated the Bible from original texts and entitled it The Bible in Living English. It was published posthumously in 1972 in New York by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. He published a review of the New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures, the English translation usually associated with Jehovah's Witnesses, in The Christian Century magazine, November 1, 1950, in which he indicated the translation was "well supplied with faults and merits."

   Notice..Even he explains that the JW's ...New World Translation...was "well supplied with faults and merits"...

oh you mean that green bible ?? pretty sure they dont use that anymore. still its better than that KJV bible

[ironglow]

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  No betteranswer than that, Locust?  Still not ready to "fess up" to cultic membership?

    Still willing to promote a falsehood by omission ?

[locust]

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  No betteranswer than that, Locust?  Still not ready to "fess up" to cultic membership?

    Still willing to promote a falsehood by omission ?

you a worshiper of false gods , telling people how to worship God ??. even when you find out you are  wrong you persist in fraudulent ways

[ironglow]

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   OK ..we get it Locust...

        When Jesus said..'when you have seen me, you have seen the father'.. your cult thinks He doesn't know who
     He is...but the Jehovah's witnesses have it all figured out !
 
      So you try to correct him somehow...

  9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? (John 14:9)

[locust]

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   OK ..we get it Locust...

        When Jesus said..'when you have seen me, you have seen the father'.. your cult thinks He doesn't know who
     He is...but the Jehovah's witnesses have it all figured out !
 
      So you try to correct him somehow...

  9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? (John 14:9)

why is it in English we say ''do you see what i mean ?' by rights it should be said ''do you understand what i mean'' 
if you can see / understand how Jesus reacted he does that because he emulates his God . its not a strange phenomenon, perhaps you yourself has seen it . its only if someone is trying to twist words to backup a questionable doctrine that the problem becomes apparent.
Jesus knows his father & God better than anyone could know him . he was with his God for untold eons of time, he knows how his father reacts he knows his fathers thinking . 

[ironglow]

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  The translation of (John 14:9) by accrerdited linguistic translators.. no mention of the term "understand"...

         https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/14-9.htm

[locust]

Luke 21 :26&27 

if you dont see you will never see

[Mule 11]

Said the blind man who could not see because. Ahem. He was blind.
Now where did I put that darned popcorn? Ah well. Tater chips will have to do

[locust]

Said the blind man who could not see because. Ahem. He was blind.
Now where did I put that darned popcorn? Ah well. Tater chips will have to do

a long as you dont go hungry . much on

[ironglow]

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   After years of confronyting the cults, I find the only cult that uses the term obeisance.
   ...And STILL you refuse to admit who your slave masters are !

   You ARE quite persistent..even though you ARE NOT very perceptive...

[locust]

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   After years of confronyting the cults, I find the only cult that uses the term obeisance.
   ...And STILL you refuse to admit who your slave masters are !

   You ARE quite persistent..even though you ARE NOT very perceptive...

the only master i have is Jesus the Christ. i have told you this in the past yet you keep coming back with some the anti-Christ redaric . if you are looking for a cult the first clue is there will be a flamboyant leader . there has been a few that made themselves famous   Jim Jones comes to mind  .