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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2021, 04:32:50 AM »
There are an estimated 10,000 distinct religions worldwide. About 84% of the world's population is affiliated with Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, or some form of religion. The religiously unaffiliated demographic includes those who do not identify with any particular religion, atheists, and agnostics.

Christianity does not progress with the times. If it did, it would be a false religion. Don't be deceived into thinking there is a progressive form of Christianity. It doesn't exist because truth NEVER changes. Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever, Amen.
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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2021, 05:47:01 AM »
There are an estimated 10,000 distinct religions worldwide. About 84% of the world's population is affiliated with Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, or some form of religion. The religiously unaffiliated demographic includes those who do not identify with any particular religion, atheists, and agnostics.

Christianity does not progress with the times. If it did, it would be a false religion. Don't be deceived into thinking there is a progressive form of Christianity. It doesn't exist because truth NEVER changes. Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever, Amen.

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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2021, 10:10:34 AM »
There are an estimated 10,000 distinct religions worldwide. About 84% of the world's population is affiliated with Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, or some form of religion. The religiously unaffiliated demographic includes those who do not identify with any particular religion, atheists, and agnostics.

Christianity does not progress with the times. If it did, it would be a false religion. Don't be deceived into thinking there is a progressive form of Christianity. It doesn't exist because truth NEVER changes. Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever, Amen.

  Right on !  ...No question about that !
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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2021, 02:35:24 PM »
There are an estimated 10,000 distinct religions worldwide. About 84% of the world's population is affiliated with Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, or some form of religion. The religiously unaffiliated demographic includes those who do not identify with any particular religion, atheists, and agnostics.

Christianity does not progress with the times. If it did, it would be a false religion. Don't be deceived into thinking there is a progressive form of Christianity. It doesn't exist because truth NEVER changes. Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever, Amen.
all it really means  is 9999 are doing it wrong. there is only one true God logically there can only be one way to please him

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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2021, 03:08:08 PM »
There are an estimated 10,000 distinct religions worldwide. About 84% of the world's population is affiliated with Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, or some form of religion. The religiously unaffiliated demographic includes those who do not identify with any particular religion, atheists, and agnostics.

Christianity does not progress with the times. If it did, it would be a false religion. Don't be deceived into thinking there is a progressive form of Christianity. It doesn't exist because truth NEVER changes. Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever, Amen.
all it really means  is 9999 are doing it wrong. there is only one true God logically there can only be one way to please him

Locust, you just said something. The question is; What?
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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2021, 03:17:07 PM »
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  Since he seems so sure of himself. perhaps Locust will be so kind, or at least so concerned for the rest of us, as to inform us exactly which one that the only proper one is, so we can all benefit from it's solo approval by God...

  Come on Locust, don't let the rest of us suffer needlessly !  Please help us...tell us which is the one, true religion..
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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2021, 04:50:18 AM »
The disciples thought they were the only way and in Mark 9, verses 38 and 39 the disciples came to JESUS whining about other people preaching about him, and he said, If they are not against us, they are for us.
That opens the door for the different denominations as long as they don't add to the word or take away from it.
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« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2021, 10:30:59 AM »
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  Many, if not most "denominational differences' bagan over rather trivial issues..not ways that will cancel one's salvation.

  Think historically now, they began over things like the style of baptism, sprinkle or immersion... what day to worship... what constitutes a 'sacrament'... what to drink during communion... steeple or no steeple..etc.

   Some even say it is a sin for a farmer to use a tractor, still others say tractors are OK..but the farmer must use steel wheels..

  ..But please Locust..  Apparently the church which any of the rest of us choose to attend is one of the 9,999 which are in error ! 

   So, please Locust, let us in on that 10,000th church, that has all the right answers, and is without error. !

   Please don't let us burn forever !
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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2021, 11:56:55 AM »
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  Since he seems so sure of himself. perhaps Locust will be so kind, or at least so concerned for the rest of us, as to inform us exactly which one that the only proper one is, so we can all benefit from it's solo approval by God...

  Come on Locust, don't let the rest of us suffer needlessly !  Please help us...tell us which is the one, true religion..

Yeah! Or else!
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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2021, 01:43:26 PM »
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   Hey!  Who here wants to miss the  boat.  That happened to lots of people, back in Noah's day !  ;)   ;D ;D
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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2021, 01:58:54 PM »
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   Hey!  Who here wants to miss the  boat.  That happened to lots of people, back in Noah's day !  ;)   ;D ;D
Exercising your Christian good will toward others again I see. Your so "christiany". ::)
He types 2 sentences and your attackin him again.
You've accused him of being in a cult with zero evidence, and you redicule and heckle him whenever he posts here on the religious forum.
You, me, or anybody else will never learn anything about his beliefs, or where their based, because you can't control your mouth.
Why would he answer you? Or kowtow to your demands? Your not in charge here. He, or anyone else is not obligated to play by YOUR rules here.

He wrote TWO SENTENCES! And he got two posts of ridicule, sarcasm, and challenges from you.

I'd like to tie yours, and my 84 year old uncles' tails together, and throw ya'll over a clothes line. Your identical twins.

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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2021, 12:46:21 AM »
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   Hey!  Who here wants to miss the  boat.  That happened to lots of people, back in Noah's day !  ;)   ;D ;D
Exercising your Christian good will toward others again I see. Your so "christiany". ::)
 What pray tell, is "christiany"?

He types 2 sentences and your attackin him again.
  Attack? Where was the attack?  I only asked him to share his good news..

 You've accused him of being in a cult with zero evidence, and you redicule and heckle him whenever he posts here on the religious forum. 
The evidence is strong, whether you see it or not.  One sure clue to a cult, is when they believe that
 their group is the only one that has possession of the "real truth"!


 
You, me, or anybody else will never learn anything about his beliefs, or where their based, because you can't control your mouth.
    ...So whose mouth has diarrhrea now?

Why would he answer you?
   He doesn't HAVE to.. 
 
 Or kowtow to your demands?
  [He doesn't HAVE to..  no demand, check again..I only ASKED.

     Your not in charge here. He, or anyone else is not obligated to play by YOUR rules here. 
  Nor are you on charge here.  ..But you seem to have trouble confusing a request, with a demand.

He wrote TWO SENTENCES! And he got two posts of ridicule, sarcasm, and challenges from you.
 
  So, who are you, Perry Mason, that you feel obliged to spring to his defense?   ;)  ;D   He seems capable of posting regularly..do you doubt his intellectual ability ?

I'd like to tie yours, and my 84 year old uncles' tails together, and throw ya'll over a clothes line. Your identical twins.
    I would suggest you use a bit of introspection concerning personal hostility, since you share the same DNA!

   I dion't recall asking any advice from you, but I do recall Bill asking both of us to "play nice"..and I did manage
 to do that,  until you got your Walter act in high gear...again !

   Now, can we "play nice"?
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)

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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2021, 01:13:46 AM »
I not giving you any advice.

I'm saying let him speak. I don't know locust, and you dont either.
With a little time I might figure out, what he's about, but if he posts here, you launch your Charlton Heston "Moses" attack "every time", and that pretty much ends the dialogue from him.

NUTHIN! Gets through to you.

I'll be "Walter" if that's what you want, and your like Charlton Hestons' "Moses" with the 10 commandments in one hand, and the fire from heaven in the other every time locust posts here.

I wanna see where locust goes with his comments.
You wanna prove yourself right and convict him.

You don't like my responses to you. Have you looked at yours towards locust? You challenge EVERYTHING he says.
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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2021, 08:50:18 AM »
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  OK ...Go Locust, acquaint us with the ones who possess the whole truth !
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« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2021, 09:02:32 AM »
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« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2021, 09:28:15 PM »
why is it you's are surprised that more would get it wrong than would get it right Matthew 24;4 In answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads you, 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many''
true there alot of people that say Jesus is the Christ ,,,so what!    there is more to it . i have looked and you all divide your worship .you have many gods that you honor ,nationalism is high on the list.

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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2021, 12:50:26 AM »
why is it you's are surprised that more would get it wrong than would get it right Matthew 24;4 In answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads you, 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many''
true there alot of people that say Jesus is the Christ ,,,so what!    there is more to it . i have looked and you all divide your worship .you have many gods that you honor ,nationalism is high on the list.
Are you saying that loving your country is a form of "god worship"..i.e "nationalism"?
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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2021, 02:36:43 AM »
why is it you's are surprised that more would get it wrong than would get it right Matthew 24;4 In answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads you, 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many''
true there alot of people that say Jesus is the Christ ,,,so what!    there is more to it . i have looked and you all divide your worship .you have many gods that you honor ,nationalism is high on the list.

  So Locust, just so we know where you stand, please tell us who that you all is !  And just to make it honest, suppose you tell us who you are...what group you represent?

   Truthfully, you need not come up with any more dissimulations, since you have already identified yourself and your group...

  You cited (Mathew 24:4,5) as a reference, as follows;

   " “Look out that nobody misleads you, 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many''

       That exact phraseology is used ONLY in the Jehovah's Witnesses New World Translation (NWT)... and anyone here can look that up !

   No serious Christian would ever use that translation..because we already know how it is filled with inaccuracies and intentional mistranslations.
   
      So Locust, how about you simply, "fess up" !

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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #48 on: November 12, 2021, 04:28:30 AM »
why is it you's are surprised that more would get it wrong than would get it right Matthew 24;4 In answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads you, 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many''
true there alot of people that say Jesus is the Christ ,,,so what!    there is more to it . i have looked and you all divide your worship .you have many gods that you honor ,nationalism is high on the list.
Are you saying that loving your country is a form of "god worship"..i.e "nationalism"?
fact is many many more people have more faith in goverment  than God . if push comes to shove directives from scripture gets quickly pushed aside ,when the pledge of allegiance is not to the most high God but to  government  , which side are you pushing for?
and you dont like me saying that and would likely wish government would do something about it . however Acts 5:39
But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.”

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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2021, 04:39:59 AM »
Well, now you're trying to put words in my mouth, that I didn't say.
You seem to be using several bibles. Kinda  like Rick Warren.
As for your quote from Acts, this is a scripture version from the NIV.
Your quote from Matthew Chapter 24 4, your gonna have to elaborate on whose version that is.
I'm a kjv guy myself. The NIV I reject, as in this passage as an example that, the NIV both adds, and takes away from scripture.
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« Reply #50 on: November 18, 2021, 08:55:53 AM »
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   Most of today's translations fall into one of two groups.. 1) Word-for-word translation. ...or 2) Thought-for-thought translation.

   1) The New American Standard (NASB), The English Standard Version (ESV) and the New King James Version (NKJV) for example, are word-for-word translations.. (Not necessarily from the KJV, but more likely from the received text.)

  2) THe New International Version (NIV), and the Living Bible for instance, are thought-for-thought versions.

  Word-for-word translations, translate carefully, each word, according to our best authorities.

-  THhe thought-for-thought versions allowed the revisers to translate what they "thought" the original writers
   had in mind.
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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #51 on: November 19, 2021, 02:09:16 PM »
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   Most of today's translations fall into one of two groups.. 1) Word-for-word translation. ...or 2) Thought-for-thought translation.

   1) The New American Standard (NASB), The English Standard Version (ESV) and the New King James Version (NKJV) for example, are word-for-word translations.. (Not necessarily from the KJV, but more likely from the received text.)

  2) THe New International Version (NIV), and the Living Bible for instance, are thought-for-thought versions.

  Word-for-word translations, translate carefully, each word, according to our best authorities.

-  THhe thought-for-thought versions allowed the revisers to translate what they "thought" the original writers
   had in mind.
i dare say you could not understand a word for word . i have used the The Emphatic Diaglott ,its a diaglot, or two-language polyglot translation.
so much is missing from what we would call English that we would need to be told whats being said and thats what you are reading in which ever bible you chose to use

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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2021, 02:30:17 AM »
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   Thanks Locust..you tipped your hand..again !  The Emphatic Diaglot is used almost exclusively by the JWs  It is a one-man show, written by a Mr Benjamin Wilson, and published in 1864.  His theological quirks coincede with the JW's errors, so they ignore the more scholarly works, and use his screed.

      https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Jehovah-s-Witnesses-prefer-the-Emphatic-Diaglott-over-the-Kingdom-Interlinear

  Christians have rich resources, from Strongs and Vines, to other interlinears..provided by teams of eminent scholars.

   Here's a free, online NT Bible interlinear..  an OT interlinear is available there too.  Try it, you may be surprised waht you can learn.
     https://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Greek_Index.htm

   
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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2021, 03:32:42 AM »
It is strange in Islam, that the Shite Muslims believe Mohammad's son is going to return to Earth and rule the Earth for 7 years.  They believe he will make all nations worship Allah.  Sound familiar in Revelation.

If all the Muslim nations across North Africa, Middle East, Central Asia, including Pakistan (which has nukes), and Indonesia, would unite, they would be a super power.  They would have about 1 billion people, tons of oil, nukes, etc.  They would be something to contend with.  Thank goodness so far they can't get along with each other much less the rest of the world. 

They could very well be the one world religion.  All they need is a powerful charismatic leader to unite them and Israel is right in the middle of the mess as in scripture and prophecy.  Could be the 10 nation confederacy in Western Europe and the Kings of the east with 300 million troops will wage war on this superpower and end up in Israel.

The Bible was written from an Israel and Middle East perspective.  The whole world back then was the Middle East and Roman Empire area.  Again, just my opinion.   
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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #54 on: November 20, 2021, 02:39:16 PM »
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   Thanks Locust..you tipped your hand..again !  The Emphatic Diaglot is used almost exclusively by the JWs  It is a one-man show, written by a Mr Benjamin Wilson, and published in 1864.  His theological quirks coincede with the JW's errors, so they ignore the more scholarly works, and use his screed.

      https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Jehovah-s-Witnesses-prefer-the-Emphatic-Diaglott-over-the-Kingdom-Interlinear

  Christians have rich resources, from Strongs and Vines, to other interlinears..provided by teams of eminent scholars.

   Here's a free, online NT Bible interlinear..  an OT interlinear is available there too.  Try it, you may be surprised waht you can learn.
     https://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Greek_Index.htm

 
really ? i googled  Emphatic Diaglott to find it on line .

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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #55 on: November 20, 2021, 02:42:39 PM »
It is strange in Islam, that the Shite Muslims believe Mohammad's son is going to return to Earth and rule the Earth for 7 years.  They believe he will make all nations worship Allah.  Sound familiar in Revelation.

If all the Muslim nations across North Africa, Middle East, Central Asia, including Pakistan (which has nukes), and Indonesia, would unite, they would be a super power.  They would have about 1 billion people, tons of oil, nukes, etc.  They would be something to contend with.  Thank goodness so far they can't get along with each other much less the rest of the world. 

They could very well be the one world religion.  All they need is a powerful charismatic leader to unite them and Israel is right in the middle of the mess as in scripture and prophecy.  Could be the 10 nation confederacy in Western Europe and the Kings of the east with 300 million troops will wage war on this superpower and end up in Israel.

The Bible was written from an Israel and Middle East perspective.  The whole world back then was the Middle East and Roman Empire area.  Again, just my opinion.   
my but they do have some strange idea's

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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #56 on: November 21, 2021, 01:40:08 AM »
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   Thanks Locust..you tipped your hand..again !  The Emphatic Diaglot is used almost exclusively by the JWs  It is a one-man show, written by a Mr Benjamin Wilson, and published in 1864.  His theological quirks coincede with the JW's errors, so they ignore the more scholarly works, and use his screed.

      https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Jehovah-s-Witnesses-prefer-the-Emphatic-Diaglott-over-the-Kingdom-Interlinear

  Christians have rich resources, from Strongs and Vines, to other interlinears..provided by teams of eminent scholars.

   Here's a free, online NT Bible interlinear..  an OT interlinear is available there too.  Try it, you may be surprised waht you can learn.
     https://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Greek_Index.htm

 
really ? i googled  Emphatic Diaglott to find it on line .

   So why hang with a single, 19th century crackpot.  Try a more credible interlinear, prepared by multiple, Bible scholars, such as the one I offered.

  Or if you prefer, check this well respected interlinear out !      https://biblehub.com/interlinear/

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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #57 on: November 22, 2021, 01:45:04 PM »
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   Thanks Locust..you tipped your hand..again !  The Emphatic Diaglot is used almost exclusively by the JWs  It is a one-man show, written by a Mr Benjamin Wilson, and published in 1864.  His theological quirks coincede with the JW's errors, so they ignore the more scholarly works, and use his screed.

      https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Jehovah-s-Witnesses-prefer-the-Emphatic-Diaglott-over-the-Kingdom-Interlinear

  Christians have rich resources, from Strongs and Vines, to other interlinears..provided by teams of eminent scholars.

   Here's a free, online NT Bible interlinear..  an OT interlinear is available there too.  Try it, you may be surprised waht you can learn.
     https://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Greek_Index.htm

 
really ? i googled  Emphatic Diaglott to find it on line .

   So why hang with a single, 19th century crackpot.  Try a more credible interlinear, prepared by multiple, Bible scholars, such as the one I offered.

  Or if you prefer, check this well respected interlinear out !      https://biblehub.com/interlinear/

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if its word for word why is "τὸν " not given in english every time its used

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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #58 on: November 22, 2021, 03:48:24 PM »
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  From Locust;
  " If it is word for word why is "TOV " not given in english every time it is used."
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   Perhaps you should offer some context.  While Strong's offers either "tob" or "towb" in Hebrew, I cannot find any reference to"TOV" in Strong's.  Of course the challenge is severe..switching from Hebrew Lettering and dong without vowels..to modern English and accompanying letters.
   Perhaps you can offer some verses for context !

   A standard English lexicon has many explanations for the acronym "TOV"...see the link..
   
        https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/TOV

  Of course it is clear whynthe JWs endorse the Emphatic diaglot..  It is clear that wilso had trouble figuring out the triune God..and he was very inclined to use the made up name JEHOVAH...in place of JHWH..

   Hebrews used no vowels...  Their preferred term was ELOHIM..which is a plural..reinforcing the triune nature
   of God! 
   Exactly why He said, "let us make man in our image", after our likeness"   (Gen 1:26)
     
    https://www.oneforisrael.org/bible-teachings/the-name-of-god/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8dv9gL-t9AIVacyzCh1m2QmzEAAYASAAEgJLdvD_BwE
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Re: Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?
« Reply #59 on: November 22, 2021, 05:03:14 PM »
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