Is this the "one world religion" we read about in prophesy?

[ironglow]

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  "They will be known by their fruits".

  Statements of doctrine, quoting from The New world Translation and upholding the various points of theology,
  makes the JW roots most obvious.

  Jesus said we are to be ready to judge false teachers and point them out !  If you missed that, you have missed much.

        "2 He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red.

3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times.   (Matt 16:2-3)
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[locust]

saved ?? saved from what ? do you even know ? consider whats going to happen to each and every one .you are going to die . if not for what Jesus did you would remain dead ,dead in which ever grave that was chosen for you . Jesus was given the power and authority to make alive again all those whom he chooses . that has not happened yet ,but it will happen.

[ironglow]

saved ?? saved from what ? do you even know ? consider whats going to happen to each and every one .you are going to die . if not for what Jesus did you would remain dead ,dead in which ever grave that was chosen for you . Jesus was given the power and authority to make alive again all those whom he chooses . that has not happened yet ,but it will happen.

    Happy in your theological kindergarten ?

[locust]

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  "They will be known by their fruits".

  Statements of doctrine, quoting from The New world Translation and upholding the various points of theology,
  makes the JW roots most obvious.

  Jesus said we are to be ready to judge false teachers and point them out !  If you missed that, you have missed much.

        "2 He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red.

3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times.   (Matt 16:2-3)
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yes he did Luke 21:8
King James Version
8 "And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them."
 which just because you know and proclaim Jesus does not mean you are doing it in the manner in which he chooses . even one little thing and it could be lights out for you.
 for now you have the opportunity to repent ,and then one day live on and on  . saved from death.

[ironglow]

And your cited verse in return;

  "And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them."

    Read it again Loco...and let it sink in !

[Lloyd Smale]

sorry but i dont waste my time reading your off fhe wall waco websites that are full of hate. What happened to ignoring me. Just more lame bs. Kind of like your claim to being a Christian. I kind of like it though. When your attacking me your leaving others here alone. 

but he believes Jesus Christ is his savior so what else matters Your not judging are you??? Go back and read your own words!! You think i care or any other catholic cares about someone who digs up trash on off the wall websites wrote by self proclaimed bible experts. We gave you that bible you quote. Weve been studying it when all baptism was was a dip in the creek. Kind of like, "who do you believe. The chev engineer that designed your pickup or some redneck who didnt finish highschool who tells you your which a ma giggy is broke now go change your dirty overalls. You are no bible scholar. Just someone that can do an internet search. Ill let you get your petty last word in now. 

i guess then all catholics are saved by that reasoning. Looks like you will be sharing heaven with billiions of them. After all by your reasoning thats ALL it takes to get into heaven. The rest doesnt matter. So all your bashing and criticism is just hatred which is a sin. But then i guess no need to worry about sin. No matter how spiteful and full of hate that you are acts dont mean a thing.

Still wanting to cry about them Catholics I see.

Slow learner. Ok, here ya go.

https://ivarfjeld.com/201308/15/the-titles-of-the-pope-amounts-to-blasphemy

Nope! Never speculated on your Salvation. Thats Gods job.
Just your continual stalking, and lying, agitating mouth.

Slow learner. Here's some more.

Title: "How Do We Know Catholicism Is A Cult?"

https://comingintheclouds.org/about-catholic/catholic-doctrine/how-do-we-know-that-catholicism-is-the-worlds-largest-cult/

[Dee]

sorry but i dont waste my time reading your off fhe wall waco websites that are full of hate. What happened to ignoring me. Just more lame bs. Kind of like your claim to being a Christian. I kind of like it though. When your attacking me your leaving others here alone. 

but he believes Jesus Christ is his savior so what else matters Your not judging are you??? Go back and read your own words!! You think i care or any other catholic cares about someone who digs up trash on off the wall websites wrote by self proclaimed bible experts. We gave you that bible you quote. Weve been studying it when all baptism was was a dip in the creek. Kind of like, "who do you believe. The chev engineer that designed your pickup or some redneck who didnt finish highschool who tells you your which a ma giggy is broke now go change your dirty overalls. You are no bible scholar. Just someone that can do an internet search. Ill let you get your petty last word in now. 

i guess then all catholics are saved by that reasoning. Looks like you will be sharing heaven with billiions of them. After all by your reasoning thats ALL it takes to get into heaven. The rest doesnt matter. So all your bashing and criticism is just hatred which is a sin. But then i guess no need to worry about sin. No matter how spiteful and full of hate that you are acts dont mean a thing.

Still wanting to cry about them Catholics I see.

Slow learner. Ok, here ya go.

https://ivarfjeld.com/201308/15/the-titles-of-the-pope-amounts-to-blasphemy

Nope! Never speculated on your Salvation. Thats Gods job.
Just your continual stalking, and lying, agitating mouth.

Slow learner. Here's some more.

Title: "How Do We Know Catholicism Is A Cult?"

https://comingintheclouds.org/about-catholic/catholic-doctrine/how-do-we-know-that-catholicism-is-the-worlds-largest-cult/

Catholic Worship of IDOLS/Practice of IDOLATRY

https://www.gotquestions.org/Catholic-idolatry.html

[locust]

And your cited verse in return;

  "And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them."

    Read it again Loco...and let it sink in !

i have told you, and now if you continue in the deceptive ways . be aware, judgment could fall against you  . fact is there are many that will say Jesus is the Christ , some even calling him god . many have other gods, that they prefer to fallow, they prove themselves to be liars in devotion. Believing that a feel good region is all that matters.
 you should know Ex34:14 New King James Version
("for you shall worship no other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God),"
 he requires EXCLUSIVE DEVOTION

[ironglow]

And your cited verse in return;

  "And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them."

    Read it again Loco...and let it sink in !

i have told you, and now if you continue in the deceptive ways . be aware, judgment could fall against you  . fact is there are many that will say Jesus is the Christ , some even calling him god . many have other gods, that they prefer to fallow, they prove themselves to be liars in devotion. Believing that a feel good region is all that matters.
 you should know Ex34:14 New King James Version
("for you shall worship no other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God),"
 he requires EXCLUSIVE DEVOTION

  Yes, He does want exclusive  devotion, even demanding that we baptise with His full triune title;

     " Go [a]therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."  (Matt 28:19)

  Further, from John ch 1;
       "1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life,[a] and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.  (John 1:1-4 NKJV)

   ...So then, who is this....also from John 1?

    " 14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.  (John 1:14 NIV)

[locust]

And your cited verse in return;

  "And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them."

    Read it again Loco...and let it sink in !

i have told you, and now if you continue in the deceptive ways . be aware, judgment could fall against you  . fact is there are many that will say Jesus is the Christ , some even calling him god . many have other gods, that they prefer to fallow, they prove themselves to be liars in devotion. Believing that a feel good region is all that matters.
 you should know Ex34:14 New King James Version
("for you shall worship no other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God),"
 he requires EXCLUSIVE DEVOTION

  Yes, He does want exclusive  devotion, even demanding that we baptise with His full triune title;

     " Go [a]therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."  (Matt 28:19)

  Further, from John ch 1;
       "1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life,[a] and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.  (John 1:1-4 NKJV)

   ...So then, who is this....also from John 1?

    " 14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.  (John 1:14 NIV)

to read john 1 you read the words but you dont understand the story . there was a time when God was alone in a time before he decided to create  . the very first thing ,and for that matter the only thing he made was one some what like him self. that one is referred to as the Word . the word was with God and was able to do things for God.
Proverbs 8:22 New Living Translation
“The LORD formed me from the beginning, before he created anything else.
Proverbs 8:30 American Standard Version
"Then I was by him, as a master workman; And I was daily his delight, Rejoicing always before him."


the Word later became known to us as Jesus. Jesus is the son of God, even the first son of God. which also means there are other sons of God . often called angels .

we have no reason to believe God split him self up into two parts or even three . all are holy spirits. how many angels were made ?? could be a number beyond our comprehension . 

[ironglow]

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    Locust...   
   I told you about those "thought-for-thought" versions....  Here's your new living version says;

      "Proverbs 8:22 New Living Translation
“The LORD formed me from the beginning, before he created anything else."

   Of course, theKJV   says it differently;
   "22 The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
                      23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was."[/color

   Some difference, huh !

  The term "formed", indicates created or made...while "possessed" indicates owning, part of, or taking over..

[locust]

saying the same thing in a different way

[ironglow]

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   Now Locust...perhaps you would like to pontificate on the 144,00 male Jewish virgins, who have yet to be utilized, and will not be on earth, at the time they are activated...according to the Bible.

 "The 144,000 Jewish Witnesses
“Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father’s name written on their foreheads. And I heard a voice from heaven, like the voice of many waters, and like the voice of loud thunder. And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps. They sang as it were a new song before the throne, before the four living creatures, and the elders; and no one could learn that song except the hundred and forty-four thousand who were redeemed from the earth.

“These are the ones who were not defiled with women, for they are virgins. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These were redeemed from among men, being first fruits to God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no deceit, for they are without fault before the throne of God."  (Rev 14:1-5)
 

[ironglow]

saying the same thing in a different way

   ..And anyone dealing with the WHOLE word of God, knows full well that if any question lingers, the Bible
     interprets itself...

       " 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
                           2 The same was in the beginning with God.
                           3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

   (John 1:1-3)

[locust]

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   Now Locust...perhaps you would like to pontificate on the 144,00 male Jewish virgins, who have yet to be utilized, and will not be on earth, at the time they are activated...according to the Bible.

 "The 144,000 Jewish Witnesses
“Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father’s name written on their foreheads. And I heard a voice from heaven, like the voice of many waters, and like the voice of loud thunder. And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps. They sang as it were a new song before the throne, before the four living creatures, and the elders; and no one could learn that song except the hundred and forty-four thousand who were redeemed from the earth.

“These are the ones who were not defiled with women, for they are virgins. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These were redeemed from among men, being first fruits to God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no deceit, for they are without fault before the throne of God."  (Rev 14:1-5)

Jewish Witnesses ?? are you saying they are not Christion ?

[locust]

saying the same thing in a different way

   ..And anyone dealing with the WHOLE word of God, knows full well that if any question lingers, the Bible
     interprets itself...

       " 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
                           2 The same was in the beginning with God.
                           3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

   (John 1:1-3)

first line has a contradiction in it . what are you going to do to take away  the contradiction?

[Dee]

Revelation Chapter 5 verse 4. These are they which were not defiled by women; for they are virgins.
These ARE THEY WHICH "FOLLOW THE LAMB" WHITHER-SOEVER HE GOETH.
THESE ARE FIRSTFRUITS UNTO GOD, "AND TO THE LAMB".

Theres no confusion in this verse, as it clearly states that this Jewish born 144,000 were "redeemed followers of Christ. I.E. CHRISTIAN. 

All one has to do is remember that the jew missed the first coming of Christ, and are just as lost as the rest of us in their present state, under the "new dispensation" of Salvation by Faith through Grace.

[locust]

Revelation Chapter 5 verse 4. These are they which were not defiled by women; for they are virgins.
These ARE THEY WHICH "FOLLOW THE LAMB" WHITHER-SOEVER HE GOETH.
THESE ARE FIRSTFRUITS UNTO GOD, "AND TO THE LAMB".

Theres no confusion in this verse, as it clearly states that this Jewish born 144,000 were "redeemed followers of Christ. I.E. CHRISTIAN. 

All one has to do is remember that the jew missed the first coming of Christ, and are just as lost as the rest of us in their present state, under the "new dispensation" of Salvation by Faith through Grace.

would that then leave you out ?

[Dee]

Revelation Chapter 5 verse 4. These are they which were not defiled by women; for they are virgins.
These ARE THEY WHICH "FOLLOW THE LAMB" WHITHER-SOEVER HE GOETH.
THESE ARE FIRSTFRUITS UNTO GOD, "AND TO THE LAMB".

Theres no confusion in this verse, as it clearly states that this Jewish born 144,000 were "redeemed followers of Christ. I.E. CHRISTIAN. 

All one has to do is remember that the jew missed the first coming of Christ, and are just as lost as the rest of us in their present state, under the "new dispensation" of Salvation by Faith through Grace.

would that then leave you out ?

I'm the one that doesn't debate scripture. 

[locust]

Revelation Chapter 5 verse 4. These are they which were not defiled by women; for they are virgins.
These ARE THEY WHICH "FOLLOW THE LAMB" WHITHER-SOEVER HE GOETH.
THESE ARE FIRSTFRUITS UNTO GOD, "AND TO THE LAMB".

Theres no confusion in this verse, as it clearly states that this Jewish born 144,000 were "redeemed followers of Christ. I.E. CHRISTIAN. 

All one has to do is remember that the jew missed the first coming of Christ, and are just as lost as the rest of us in their present state, under the "new dispensation" of Salvation by Faith through Grace.

would that then leave you out ?

I'm the one that doesn't debate scripture. 

if you dont ask questions how will you learn ?  fair to say the book of revelation is complex. with visions   that confound. a book of signs that refer to things in a roundabout way  .

[Dee]

If your confused, study the book of Daniel.
But I don't play to vague, nonsensical, or stupid bait questions, or your little mystery identity game.
You wanna discuss scripture? Man up and show yourself.
Otherwise, continue your silly little sparring match with your current opponent.

[locust]

If your confused, study the book of Daniel.
But I don't play to vague, nonsensical, or stupid bait questions, or your little mystery identity game.
You wanna discuss scripture? Man up and show yourself.
Otherwise, continue your silly little sparring match with your current shill.

the book of Daniel ? ya all ready done that.
you could correctly call me a teacher ,does a teacher not ask questions ?

[Dee]

If your confused, study the book of Daniel.
But I don't play to vague, nonsensical, or stupid bait questions, or your little mystery identity game.
You wanna discuss scripture? Man up and show yourself.
Otherwise, continue your silly little sparring match with your current shill.

the book of Daniel ? ya all ready done that.
you could correctly call me a teacher ,does a teacher not ask questions ?

Well ironglow is a teacher to. I'll let you two teach each other.

[ironglow]

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    Yes Locust, you are a teacher..a teacher of the type of Joseph Goebbels...  So I will provide  you with
     2 clarifications, then leave you to your extended studies with Curly and Moe.

   A)  There is no contradiction within (John 1:1-3). The truth is just as John wrote it !
        For you and your Bethany "educated" buddies to claim there is a contradiction, is to say that you know
         better what John meant when he wrote it, than John himself did !  ...Not likely, it is not John who is wrong!

   B) THe 144,000 are Christians, as well as being Jews...   They atre Jews who will see the truth during
   the great tribulation, and finally turn to the Messiah they missed a couple thousand years ago.  Those
   Jews figured it out.  ...Let's hope more JWs do, before "The Midnight Cry" is sounded..

   With that warning... I leave you in your confusion, but I will pray for you, as I pray for all who are lost in error.
 
     Au revoir...

[Lloyd Smale]

 one here  that doesnt debate just happened to start his own section here a few years ago just to do that. Within weeks it became nothing but a pissing match because only one was correct. Short memories here. Id be ironglow remembers it as does pastor and a few more.

[Dee]

one here  that doesnt debate just happened to start his own section here a few years ago just to do that. Within weeks it became nothing but a pissing match because only one was correct. Short memories here. Id be ironglow remembers it as does pastor and a few more.

Roman Catholic Apostacy

https://www.christiantruthcenter.com/the-roman-catholic-church/

[locust]

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    Yes Locust, you are a teacher..a teacher of the type of Joseph Goebbels...  So I will provide  you with
     2 clarifications, then leave you to your extended studies with Curly and Moe.

   A)  There is no contradiction within (John 1:1-3). The truth is just as John wrote it !
        For you and your Bethany "educated" buddies to claim there is a contradiction, is to say that you know
         better what John meant when he wrote it, than John himself did !  ...Not likely, it is not John who is wrong!

   B) THe 144,000 are Christians, as well as being Jews...   They atre Jews who will see the truth during
   the great tribulation, and finally turn to the Messiah they missed a couple thousand years ago.  Those
   Jews figured it out.  ...Let's hope more JWs do, before "The Midnight Cry" is sounded..

   With that warning... I leave you in your confusion, but I will pray for you, as I pray for all who are lost in error.
 
     Au revoir...

yes a contradiction
[ˌkäntrəˈdikSH(ə)n]
NOUN
a combination of statements, ideas, or features of a situation that are opposed to one another.
"the proposed new system suffers from a set of internal contradictions"
a person, thing, or situation in which inconsistent elements are present.
"the paradox of using force to overcome force is a real contradiction"
the statement of a position opposite to one already made.
"the second sentence appears to be in flat contradiction of the first"

perhaps other bibles have removed contradiction ? the one you are using seams inferior

[locust]

John l McKenzie said it should read "the word was with the God and the word was a divine being " which would mean he is a separate being which by the way agrees with other scriptures .

[locust]

had the bible translators realized the difference in "the God "   and used "god" where many bibles say ''and the Word was 'God' '' then perhaps there would a understand a more correct understanding . 
another point to be made   "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the God, and the Word was God." why was the definite  article 'the' left out at the point before second God in the sentence  ?  it seems you have it wrong

[Lloyd Smale]

preach to us old wize one. Judge us unworthy sitting on your throne in front of your computer in your fruit of the lombs.

one here  that doesnt debate just happened to start his own section here a few years ago just to do that. Within weeks it became nothing but a pissing match because only one was correct. Short memories here. Id be ironglow remembers it as does pastor and a few more.

Roman Catholic Apostacy

https://www.christiantruthcenter.com/the-roman-catholic-church/