Watching the Rittenhouse trial on OAN..

[BUGEYE]

The USA Today film only has two gunshots in it, thus it was edited.
The media wants a not guilty verdict so blacks will riot and burn down the neighborhood.
That way they can kiss more black butts.

I am against most black groups such as BLM and Antifa, but, I know murder when I see and hear the evidence.

[Mule 11]

I don’t care bug. This thread has been hijacked by you and guzzi. And by arguing with you I am also complacent/Guilty. Post on the appropriate thread.
Back to the O.P.
Rittenhouse is a patriot and did what others were unwilling to do...

[Casull]

"Rittenhouse is a patriot and did what others were unwilling to do..."


Agreed.

As far as guzzi, he's a far left radical, a troll and a spoiler.  Oh, and apparently he's a witch since he seems to be able to read what's in our minds.  Best left ignored.

[BUGEYE]

I'm sure the kid thought he was doing the right thing by going and using his training.
It's for sure the fire department was sitting on their butts and the cops had their thumbs up their butts.

Today the judge opened the way for the jury to reduce the charges from murder, which I think is a big mistake.
If that kid has to spend even one day in jail he'll end up as somebodies b*tch.

It should be innocent or guilty on the original charge, not placate someone and their vote.
I really think he'd be found innocent on the murder charge.  That's what I'm praying for.

[Mule 11]

I seriously doubt that young man would end up as anyone’s bitch. Much easier prey as a few have already found out the hard way...

[DDZ]

Since The fact that Rosenbaum being a pedophile, serial child rapist is not allowed to be presented in court.  Rittenhouse should have said that when Rosenbaum was chasing him, he was afraid that Rosenbaum was going to rape him.

[Casull]

I'm sure the kid thought he was doing the right thing by going and using his training.
It's for sure the fire department was sitting on their butts and the cops had their thumbs up their butts.

Today the judge opened the way for the jury to reduce the charges from murder, which I think is a big mistake.
If that kid has to spend even one day in jail he'll end up as somebodies b*tch.

It should be innocent or guilty on the original charge, not placate someone and their vote.
I really think he'd be found innocent on the murder charge.  That's what I'm praying for.

I was reading earlier today that the Judge was NOT allowing them to seek lesser charges.  Did this change?

[Dee]

If he's found not guilty, they'll riot, and burn the town.
If hes found guilty, they'll celebrate.  Which usually looks very much like a riot.

[DDZ]

From what I heard the judge is allowing the prosecution to add some lesser charges.  I have to think the jurors will be intimidated to agree to lesser charges because they will be greeted by a mob outside that will follow them to their homes.

[mcbammer]

    Its not right to start adding charges in the middle of a trial , just because your losing .

[DDZ]

    Its not right to start adding charges in the middle of a trial , just because your losing .

No its not, and the judge shouldn't have allowed the prosecution to bring lesser charges to the jury. I don't understand. If it was shown that he acted in self defense, which it was. How can they convict on any lesser charge? He's not guilty! I'm afraid the jury might charge him with one of the lesser charges being allowed, so as to maybe keep people from harming them, or just plain harassing them, and making their lives miserable. 

[Dee]

You guys don't understand. They've GOT to convict him of somethin.

[BUGEYE]

I'm sure the kid thought he was doing the right thing by going and using his training.
It's for sure the fire department was sitting on their butts and the cops had their thumbs up their butts.

Today the judge opened the way for the jury to reduce the charges from murder, which I think is a big mistake.
If that kid has to spend even one day in jail he'll end up as somebodies b*tch.

It should be innocent or guilty on the original charge, not placate someone and their vote.
I really think he'd be found innocent on the murder charge.  That's what I'm praying for.

I was reading earlier today that the Judge was NOT allowing them to seek lesser charges.  Did this change?

Who knows.   MSM never tells the truth so I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[BUGEYE]

    Its not right to start adding charges in the middle of a trial , just because your losing .

That's right.   It seems that some prosecutors are operating under hate rather than under the law.
Justice in this country will disappear under these kind of prosecutors.

[DDZ]

They are not really after Rittenhouse. They are after your right to defend yourself with a firearm against criminals.  There certainly has been a movement to justify lawlessness.

[billy_56081]

They are not really after Rittenhouse. They are after your right to defend yourself with a firearm against criminals.  There certainly has been a movement to justify lawlessness.

This!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ironglow]

.
   Dang "white privilege " stuff, anyway !

[DDZ]

[Dand]

what puzzles me is that virtually EVERY news item on this trial has to drag in the shooting of Blake that triggered the riot.
Somehow it always seems like an add-in that somehow is supposed to make the kid more guilty or something. 

This isn't a trial about Blake or the cops who shot him.

I went back and re-watched the videos of the Blake incident and seems like there is room for debate on what the cops did but that's separate IMO.

Anybody share some wisdom w me?

[O-mega]

what puzzles me is that virtually EVERY news item on this trial has to drag in the shooting of Blake that triggered the riot.
Somehow it always seems like an add-in that somehow is supposed to make the kid more guilty or something. 

This isn't a trial about Blake or the cops who shot him.

I went back and re-watched the videos of the Blake incident and seems like there is room for debate on what the cops did but that's separate IMO.

Anybody share some wisdom w me?

Sure, I'll share the little I have   They add that in because a white kid shot three white rioters killing two, so no built in race card.  Oh yea, and if the cops are trying to arrest you, don't reach for a knife, it doesn't end well.

[Lloyd Smale]

no, if he were a black 17 year old there wouldnt have even been a trial. He would have been probably brought to the police station and turned loose to go back to the riots.

from IG:

So Guzzi...did you not see the posts I made concerning the Arbery situation?   I condemned those killers just as stridently as I do, the worthless rioters who tried to kill Rittenhouse!

I am quite sure there are others here that do not condemn the killers of Arbery and believe it was a justified shooting. If Rittenhouse had been a 17 year old black kid he most likely would have been arrested and/or shot on the spot by police.
GuzziJohn

[Lloyd Smale]

guzzi i know your a socialist and a liberal but i thought you believed in your right to carry and to protect yourself. Apparently not. This case IS ALL ABOUT the right to defend yourself. Its not black or white its not republican or democrat. Its about that EVIL ar15. Just look at the total bs about how dangerous a fmj bullet is. EVERYONE on here knows that he used fmj because thats all you can find today (if you even can find them) they use them because its the cheapest ammo available. Tell me in your wisdom would you rather be shot in the leg with fmj or a 55 grain soft nosed bullet. Then the idiot prosecutor even made claim that a normal self defense carrying person would use a hp!! If he had used a hp theyd have been screaming about him using a violently expanding bullet to do more damage. He makes completely off the wall comments like a skate board couldnt be a deadly weapon. You want me to crush your skull with one! This is a political anti gun clown show. All ending with a total bs comment that there are no left and right hand guns!! They wooped up any lie they could come up with to compare him to one of those school shooters. Bottom line is if black lives matter wouldnt have been tearing up Kenosha none of this would have happened. How many of them are facing charges for the destruction they created!!! What about your president that called him a white supremist without knowing a single fact on the case. He should face charges for that!! But nope, you are so blind you still think he is a great man doing a great job. When in fact hes a brain dead sob that cant tie his own shoes and is just a mouth piece for the FAR left that are pushing total bs like this trial.

[Dee]

I believe the Rittinhouse defense team did a splendid job in his trial, and anyone that has ever experienced the attacks of prosecutors, or defense attorneys on the witness stand, would agree that Kyle Rittinhouse did a stellar job in his, rarely does a defendant take the stand testimony.
Every piece of evidence, every video, and every action Rittinhouse took was clearly illustrated to be "self defense".

The problem is: BLM, ANTIFA, and even the president of the United States has put the jury on notice.

From years of experience, I can say that you never know which way a jury will jump under this kinda of threats, and pressure.

Every jurist on that panel knows that Kenosha, along with several other cities will likely burn with an "innocent verdict", and every jurist will be a target for "whatever".

[billy_56081]

This trial isn't about Kyle,  it is about our right to self defense against the lefts violent mobs.

[Dee]

Well, Kyle Rittinhouse will be the one to go to jail if the jury caves to pressure, so I'd say its very much about Kyle Rittinhouse.

Will it affect the rest of us? If we're ever in Rittinhouses' shoes it will, but 99% of the United States population will never step up like Kyle Rittinhouse did.
They'll do what they've been doing. Stay home, and watch cities burn on their TV.

[BUGEYE]

That picture says that Rittenhouse was in a very nervous condition.
It looks on the surface that he is bored or sleepy, but having a very bad heart I can tell you that he is trying to get a deep breath.
The way he sometimes tried to suck up air from below is the biggest clue.

[Dand]

Interesting comments all.  Dee - knowing a little of your background I appreciate your insights.

I have been seeing some posts where some guy claims Kyle raised his gun before the other guy.  Then posts a bunch of incomprehensible blurry blowups.  Doesn't show me anything.

Knowing how fast stuff like that happens I'm not inclined to quibble about  a milisecond or 2.

I agree that yawning etc is more likely a stress reaction vs being tired.  ! once found myself in bumper to bumper Wash DC traffic going 80+!  I'm a remote Alaska village guy! I was struggling feeling so very tired!! The minute the traffic thinned and slowed to 60 I was wide awake.  A very weird experience for me.

I think it was unwise for Kyle to go there in the first place but I dont' think there's a law about that... will be curious how the verdicts come down.

I sure hope things stay under control and he & family stay safe if the verdict is not guilty or very mild.

[DDZ]

It really doesn't matter if Kyle was yawning in the photos or needing more air, whether he was stressed or relaxed.  That meant nothing. The photos and caption were intended for a bit of satire.  Nothing else.  I'm a bit surprised that escaped some people. 

[O-mega]

So, we may now know who "Jump Kick Man" is, but now some serious question on how long Binger knew his identity.
https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/11/16/maurice-freeland-jump-kick-man/

Wisconsin Right Now has learned from a law enforcement source in a position to know that prosecutors informed the Rittenhouse defense team only last Thursday, Nov. 11, 2021, as the trial came to an end, that Freeland had come forward claiming to be Jump Kick Man.

It's not clear when Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger and his boss, DA Mike Graveley, first learned about Freeland's claims, the source said. Clearly, it would be a much bigger issue if the prosecution knew his identity for longer because the defense might have wanted to call or cross-examine him or track him down and vet the story; Wisconsin Right Now wrote Graveley and Binger and asked them for comment, and neither wrote back.

[Lloyd Smale]

mule hes the typical liberal. Probably never been in a fight in his life and because it makes him crap his pants he wants the government to squash anyone that has a set so he doesnt look like the panty waist he is. He like most of the liberals just cant stand the fact that some have a set. That some are actually willing to risk there own life and limb for a just cause.

I don’t care bug. This thread has been hijacked by you and guzzi. And by arguing with you I am also complacent/Guilty. Post on the appropriate thread.
Back to the O.P.
Rittenhouse is a patriot and did what others were unwilling to do...