How about a different perspective ?

[ironglow]

.
   We as patriots, conservatives and Christians are perplexed.  How can the longtime old politicians be giving away advantage after advantage , to people and nations who woiuld like to defeat us both economically..... and militarily,
    if necessary.

   How can they give away our petroleum leverage, our sovereign borders, $85,000,000,000 in weapons..(high tech classified weapons) and our very free market system, that made us the envy of every other nation ?

  How could they be willing to give away our Judeo-Christian heritage, our patriotic motivation and never correct tose who disrespect our flag and anthem?

   ...A few years back, some of the same politicians we are still dealing with today gave away much of our manufacturing capability to other countries, via NAFTA..  Then they gave away much of our economic  leverage, by naming China as a "most favored nation"...dropping much of the tariffs on their goods.

    We marvel how some of those same politicians giving away large sums of our tax money to two-bit countries, ostensibly for infrastructure and housing that was never done.

   How is it these same politicians give dignity to Shothole countries...while trashing our own
   country and system?

  OK..here is the different perspective... suppose tose entrenched politicians are not giving away these benefits to our economic and military enemies.
  Just consider that they may not be giving them away...but SELLING these favors!

  ....And have been doing it for decades...

[Dee]

Well Harry Truman wasn't any better, and Fox News contributor Newt Gingrich lauded NAFTA and GAT and what a great accomplishment he, and the rest of Congress had made creating both.

My point? Gingrich betrayed American commerce took credit for it, got ran outta Congress, but we're still getting his opinions in the news.

Reagan, with the help of the Pentagon, and hero Oliver North sneaked around Congress, opened the drug smuggling doors into the United States to fund his pet contra project, yet even some here regard him as one of the better presidents.

Oliver North who is a convicted felon, and traitor, was pardoned by the next president, and is now lauded by many as an American hero/spokesman.
Hell, he even  held office  in that bureaucracy known as the NRA.

So while we criticize the Democrats, BLM, and ANTIFA for their warp sense of leadership. Conservatives haven't been much better.

Harry Truman a true socialist.

https://www.nwotoday.com/the-socialist-review-american-politicians/harry-s-truman

[ironglow]

.
  Only used one Truman quote..because it seems to hold water...  ..But of course, "Pobody's nerfect" !    

   Correct..nobody is perfect.. if anyone were the perfect man ..without the taint of sin, God would have not had
  send Jesus tothe cross.

  Yes, even Reagan and Ollie north were imperfect vessels..and they would likelybtell you so themselves.

  So in analyzing the motives of men, we need to work with a sliding scale...we need consider the degree of corruption..and especially the motivation behind it !

  Motivation:  "extremism in the defense of liberty, is no vice"  (Barry Goldwater)

     Though wrong, at least when some did shady things, it wasn't so much for personal monetary gain, so much as trying to provide service for their country..as they are elected to do..

  In the class of corruption I am speaking of here..it seems strictly to gather personal lucre.

   
   10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.  (1 Tim 6:10)

   Sadly though, for their greed thayhave pierced millions through with many sorrows !

     

[oldandslow]

 "Just consider that they may not be giving them away...but SELLING these favors!"

Exactly. How do you think the Clinton's that complained of being broke when they left the whitehouse became rich. Reckon that" most favored nation" Had anything to do with it? Politicians all through history have always been an I am sure will remain the most corrupt class of people on earth.

[Dee]

.
  Only used one Truman quote..because it seems to hold water...  ..But of course, "Pobody's nerfect" !    

   Correct..nobody is perfect.. if anyone were the perfect man ..without the taint of sin, God would have not had
  send Jesus tothe cross.

  Yes, even Reagan and Ollie north were imperfect vessels..and they would likelybtell you so themselves.

  So in analyzing the motives of men, we need to work with a sliding scale...we need consider the degree of corruption..and especially the motivation behind it !

  Motivation:  "extremism in the defense of liberty, is no vice"  (Barry Goldwater)

     Though wrong, at least when some did shady things, it wasn't so much for personal monetary gain, so much as trying to provide service for their country..as they are elected to do..

  In the class of corruption I am speaking of here..it seems strictly to gather personal lucre.

   
   10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.  (1 Tim 6:10)

   Sadly though, for their greed thayhave pierced millions through with many sorrows !

     

So your saying that the end justifies the means?
Are you saying it was "ok" to deceive Congress, and it was "ok" to defy Congress, and it was "ok" to open the doors to drug traffickers to sell drugs to Americans in order to finance arms to a group of rebels, in another country?
Reagan and Norths "intentions" were good? For who?
Seriously?

If Reagan and North are so noble with their "intentions" then your opinion is, that Congress is only necessary "sometimes".
 And if Congress doesn't agree with a couple a guys (Reagan and North), then just do it on the sly, and kill Americans with more easily attainable drugs to finance their "good intentions".

Their "good intentions" certainly didn't benefit Americans.

Let's be clear here. What they did was illegal. It didn't benefit one single American.
Oliver North was "convicted".

Reagan and Oliver North weren't perfect?

Neither are Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff, or Nancy Pelosi.

Your contention is, it wasn't about money for Reagan and North?

Well it was criminal, and in essence, a violation of the Constitution of the United States.
Being trusted to do the work of the people, is not violating the law, or the Constitution.

Oliver Norths' net worth is "north" of 5 million dollars.
Pretty good pay for a convicted/pardoned Army Colonel.

[DDZ]

Well our politicians that are selling this country out don't really care about America. They are part of the New world order of things, and the Marxist takeover of America.  Of course the new world order gang and the Marxists are all in one.   To them America is to free and has to much wealth so they have to suppress our freedoms, and our wealth. Its what all the so called climate change agenda is about. Its 100% about Draining America's wealth, and freedoms.  Biden's puppet masters had him tell other world leaders at the climate summit that America will reduce emissions by 50-52% by 2030 compared to 2005 levels.   Don't think for a moment that many of our politicians are not all in on the plan to make all nations the same in wealth and in freedom. Its working to well for them not to be.     

[ironglow]

.
  Only used one Truman quote..because it seems to hold water...  ..But of course, "Pobody's nerfect" !    

   Correct..nobody is perfect.. if anyone were the perfect man ..without the taint of sin, God would have not had
  send Jesus tothe cross.

  Yes, even Reagan and Ollie north were imperfect vessels..and they would likely tell you so themselves.

  So in analyzing the motives of men, we need to work with a sliding scale...we need consider the degree of corruption..and especially the motivation behind it !

  Motivation:  "extremism in the defense of liberty, is no vice"  (Barry Goldwater)

     Though wrong, at least when some did shady things, it wasn't so much for personal monetary gain, so much as trying to provide service for their country..as they are elected to do..

  In the class of corruption I am speaking of here..it seems strictly to gather personal lucre.

   
   10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.  (1 Tim 6:10)

   Sadly though, for their greed thayhave pierced millions through with many sorrows !

     

So your saying that the end justifies the means?
Are you saying it was "ok" to deceive Congress, and it was "ok" to defy Congress, and it was "ok" to open the doors to drug traffickers to sell drugs to Americans in order to finance arms to a group of rebels, in another country?
Reagan and Norths "intentions" were good? For who?
Seriously?

If Reagan and North are so noble with their "intentions" then your opinion is, that Congress is only necessary "sometimes".
 And if Congress doesn't agree with a couple a guys (Reagan and North), then just do it on the sly, and kill Americans with more easily attainable drugs to finance their "good intentions".

Their "good intentions" certainly didn't benefit Americans.

Let's be clear here. What they did was illegal. It didn't benefit one single American.
Oliver North was "convicted".

Reagan and Oliver North weren't perfect?

Neither are Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff, or Nancy Pelosi.

Your contention is, it wasn't about money for Reagan and North?

Well it was criminal, and in essence, a violation of the Constitution of the United States.
Being trusted to do the work of the people, is not violating the law, or the Constitution.

Oliver Norths' net worth is "north" of 5 million dollars.
Pretty good pay for a convicted/pardoned Army Colonel.

   Ithink you should re-read my post #2, where I said...   "Though wrong, at least when some did shady things, it wasn't so much for personal monetary gain, so much as trying to provide service for their country..as they are elected to do.."

  I didn't pass it off as "end justifying the means:...   In fact, I made sure that statement was included, since somehow I knew you would be up and firing at it !

  I rather doubt either Reagan or North played their gambit for personal gain.  Reagan's wealth was obviously earned long before he was elected president.  Ollie North?  Certainly, North had other "irons in the fire", beyond being an adviser to the president.  I have attended his lectiures..where large crowds were gathered, and he was regularly contracted to speak at patriot venues.
   
   Fact is, by what seems to be your views on people..considering the moral frailty of all men since the fall in the garden...is there anyone in public life who you either respect or admire?

   First, lets get it clear...everybody sins, and there seems to be little diferentiation in sins ...in the Lord's eyes.

  SDo how would one choose who is worth a kind word..or are  they all corruoted?

   

[BUGEYE]

Communist countries are quite willing to buy a share of the USA, and our politicians are quite willing to sell.
Reagan spent 25 years ridding Hollywood of communists, but unless a person does the research they don't about it.

Today, both parties are out to enrich themselves and ensure their place in the hierarchy of the coming communism in the USA.

[Dee]

.
  Only used one Truman quote..because it seems to hold water...  ..But of course, "Pobody's nerfect" !    

   Correct..nobody is perfect.. if anyone were the perfect man ..without the taint of sin, God would have not had
  send Jesus tothe cross.

  Yes, even Reagan and Ollie north were imperfect vessels..and they would likely tell you so themselves.

  So in analyzing the motives of men, we need to work with a sliding scale...we need consider the degree of corruption..and especially the motivation behind it !

  Motivation:  "extremism in the defense of liberty, is no vice"  (Barry Goldwater)

     Though wrong, at least when some did shady things, it wasn't so much for personal monetary gain, so much as trying to provide service for their country..as they are elected to do..

  In the class of corruption I am speaking of here..it seems strictly to gather personal lucre.

   
   10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.  (1 Tim 6:10)

   Sadly though, for their greed thayhave pierced millions through with many sorrows !

     

So your saying that the end justifies the means?
Are you saying it was "ok" to deceive Congress, and it was "ok" to defy Congress, and it was "ok" to open the doors to drug traffickers to sell drugs to Americans in order to finance arms to a group of rebels, in another country?
Reagan and Norths "intentions" were good? For who?
Seriously?

If Reagan and North are so noble with their "intentions" then your opinion is, that Congress is only necessary "sometimes".
 And if Congress doesn't agree with a couple a guys (Reagan and North), then just do it on the sly, and kill Americans with more easily attainable drugs to finance their "good intentions".

Their "good intentions" certainly didn't benefit Americans.

Let's be clear here. What they did was illegal. It didn't benefit one single American.
Oliver North was "convicted".

Reagan and Oliver North weren't perfect?

Neither are Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff, or Nancy Pelosi.

Your contention is, it wasn't about money for Reagan and North?

Well it was criminal, and in essence, a violation of the Constitution of the United States.
Being trusted to do the work of the people, is not violating the law, or the Constitution.

Oliver Norths' net worth is "north" of 5 million dollars.
Pretty good pay for a convicted/pardoned Army Colonel.

   Ithink you should re-read my post #2, where I said...   "Though wrong, at least when some did shady things, it wasn't so much for personal monetary gain, so much as trying to provide service for their country..as they are elected to do.."

  I didn't pass it off as "end justifying the means:...   In fact, I made sure that statement was included, since somehow I knew you would be up and firing at it !

  I rather doubt either Reagan or North played their gambit for personal gain.  Reagan's wealth was obviously earned long before he was elected president.  Ollie North?  Certainly, North had other "irons in the fire", beyond being an adviser to the president.  I have attended his lectiures..where large crowds were gathered, and he was regularly contracted to speak at patriot venues.
   
   Fact is, by what seems to be your views on people..considering the moral frailty of all men since the fall in the garden...is there anyone in public life who you either respect or admire?

   First, lets get it clear...everybody sins, and there seems to be little diferentiation in sins ...in the Lord's eyes.

  SDo how would one choose who is worth a kind word..or are  they all corruoted?

   

Nuthin unexpected here.
Regardless of Reagan and Oliver Norths criminality even the point of North being convicted, you were predestined to defend both. They're your guys. I never doubted that.

Wrong is right, and criminal is not criminal, depending on whom you support.

Peoples short term memory is much of the problem.

I am not surprised that your a North guy, and your likely a GW Bush guy to.

But hey, their just sinners.  

No, their criminals, meddling in other countries affairs, at our expense. 

It's odd that people pick and choose between their criminals on who is heroic, and who should be prosecuted.

Many "say" their pro Constitution, and 100% law and order, until you point out criminal behavior committed by their heroes.

Pseudo conservatism, and pseudo Constitutionalists are actually quite common in reality.

              OLIVER NORTH, REAGANS' LITTLE FALL GUY.
https://todayinclh.com/?event=oliver-north-convicted-for-iran-contra-crimes


IRAN CONTRA REPORT

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1987/11/18/Iran-Contra-report-at-least-four-laws-broken/9088564210000/

Aloha on this'un.

[ironglow]

.
  Only used one Truman quote..because it seems to hold water...  ..But of course, "Pobody's nerfect" !    

   Correct..nobody is perfect.. if anyone were the perfect man ..without the taint of sin, God would have not had
  send Jesus tothe cross.

  Yes, even Reagan and Ollie north were imperfect vessels..and they would likely tell you so themselves.

  So in analyzing the motives of men, we need to work with a sliding scale...we need consider the degree of corruption..and especially the motivation behind it !

  Motivation:  "extremism in the defense of liberty, is no vice"  (Barry Goldwater)

     Though wrong, at least when some did shady things, it wasn't so much for personal monetary gain, so much as trying to provide service for their country..as they are elected to do..

  In the class of corruption I am speaking of here..it seems strictly to gather personal lucre.

   
   10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.  (1 Tim 6:10)

   Sadly though, for their greed thayhave pierced millions through with many sorrows !

     

So your saying that the end justifies the means?
Are you saying it was "ok" to deceive Congress, and it was "ok" to defy Congress, and it was "ok" to open the doors to drug traffickers to sell drugs to Americans in order to finance arms to a group of rebels, in another country?
Reagan and Norths "intentions" were good? For who?
Seriously?

If Reagan and North are so noble with their "intentions" then your opinion is, that Congress is only necessary "sometimes".
 And if Congress doesn't agree with a couple a guys (Reagan and North), then just do it on the sly, and kill Americans with more easily attainable drugs to finance their "good intentions".

Their "good intentions" certainly didn't benefit Americans.

Let's be clear here. What they did was illegal. It didn't benefit one single American.
Oliver North was "convicted".

Reagan and Oliver North weren't perfect?

Neither are Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff, or Nancy Pelosi.

Your contention is, it wasn't about money for Reagan and North?

Well it was criminal, and in essence, a violation of the Constitution of the United States.
Being trusted to do the work of the people, is not violating the law, or the Constitution.

Oliver Norths' net worth is "north" of 5 million dollars.
Pretty good pay for a convicted/pardoned Army Colonel.

   Ithink you should re-read my post #2, where I said...   "Though wrong, at least when some did shady things, it wasn't so much for personal monetary gain, so much as trying to provide service for their country..as they are elected to do.."

  I didn't pass it off as "end justifying the means:...   In fact, I made sure that statement was included, since somehow I knew you would be up and firing at it !

  I rather doubt either Reagan or North played their gambit for personal gain.  Reagan's wealth was obviously earned long before he was elected president.  Ollie North?  Certainly, North had other "irons in the fire", beyond being an adviser to the president.  I have attended his lectiures..where large crowds were gathered, and he was regularly contracted to speak at patriot venues.
   
   Fact is, by what seems to be your views on people..considering the moral frailty of all men since the fall in the garden...is there anyone in public life who you either respect or admire?

   First, lets get it clear...everybody sins, and there seems to be little diferentiation in sins ...in the Lord's eyes.

  SDo how would one choose who is worth a kind word..or are  they all corruoted?

   

Nuthin unexpected here.
Regardless of Reagan and Oliver Norths criminality even the point of North being convicted, you were predestined to defend both. They're your guys. I never doubted that.

Wrong is right, and criminal is not criminal, depending on whom you support.

Peoples short term memory is much of the problem.

I am not surprised that your a North guy, and your likely a GW Bush guy to.

But hey, their just sinners.  

No, their criminals, meddling in other countries affairs, at our expense. 

It's odd that people pick and choose between their criminals on who is heroic, and who should be prosecuted.

Many "say" their pro Constitution, and 100% law and order, until you point out criminal behavior committed by their heroes.

Pseudo conservatism, and pseudo Constitutionalists are actually quite common in reality.

              OLIVER NORTH, REAGANS' LITTLE FALL GUY.
https://todayinclh.com/?event=oliver-north-convicted-for-iran-contra-crimes


IRAN CONTRA REPORT

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1987/11/18/Iran-Contra-report-at-least-four-laws-broken/9088564210000/

Aloha on this'un.

   ..Another one of those days, huh ?

[Dee]

.
  Only used one Truman quote..because it seems to hold water...  ..But of course, "Pobody's nerfect" !    

   Correct..nobody is perfect.. if anyone were the perfect man ..without the taint of sin, God would have not had
  send Jesus tothe cross.

  Yes, even Reagan and Ollie north were imperfect vessels..and they would likely tell you so themselves.

  So in analyzing the motives of men, we need to work with a sliding scale...we need consider the degree of corruption..and especially the motivation behind it !

  Motivation:  "extremism in the defense of liberty, is no vice"  (Barry Goldwater)

     Though wrong, at least when some did shady things, it wasn't so much for personal monetary gain, so much as trying to provide service for their country..as they are elected to do..

  In the class of corruption I am speaking of here..it seems strictly to gather personal lucre.

   
   10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.  (1 Tim 6:10)

   Sadly though, for their greed thayhave pierced millions through with many sorrows !

     

So your saying that the end justifies the means?
Are you saying it was "ok" to deceive Congress, and it was "ok" to defy Congress, and it was "ok" to open the doors to drug traffickers to sell drugs to Americans in order to finance arms to a group of rebels, in another country?
Reagan and Norths "intentions" were good? For who?
Seriously?

If Reagan and North are so noble with their "intentions" then your opinion is, that Congress is only necessary "sometimes".
 And if Congress doesn't agree with a couple a guys (Reagan and North), then just do it on the sly, and kill Americans with more easily attainable drugs to finance their "good intentions".

Their "good intentions" certainly didn't benefit Americans.

Let's be clear here. What they did was illegal. It didn't benefit one single American.
Oliver North was "convicted".

Reagan and Oliver North weren't perfect?

Neither are Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff, or Nancy Pelosi.

Your contention is, it wasn't about money for Reagan and North?

Well it was criminal, and in essence, a violation of the Constitution of the United States.
Being trusted to do the work of the people, is not violating the law, or the Constitution.

Oliver Norths' net worth is "north" of 5 million dollars.
Pretty good pay for a convicted/pardoned Army Colonel.

   Ithink you should re-read my post #2, where I said...   "Though wrong, at least when some did shady things, it wasn't so much for personal monetary gain, so much as trying to provide service for their country..as they are elected to do.."

  I didn't pass it off as "end justifying the means:...   In fact, I made sure that statement was included, since somehow I knew you would be up and firing at it !

  I rather doubt either Reagan or North played their gambit for personal gain.  Reagan's wealth was obviously earned long before he was elected president.  Ollie North?  Certainly, North had other "irons in the fire", beyond being an adviser to the president.  I have attended his lectiures..where large crowds were gathered, and he was regularly contracted to speak at patriot venues.
   
   Fact is, by what seems to be your views on people..considering the moral frailty of all men since the fall in the garden...is there anyone in public life who you either respect or admire?

   First, lets get it clear...everybody sins, and there seems to be little diferentiation in sins ...in the Lord's eyes.

  SDo how would one choose who is worth a kind word..or are  they all corruoted?

   

Nuthin unexpected here.
Regardless of Reagan and Oliver Norths criminality even the point of North being convicted, you were predestined to defend both. They're your guys. I never doubted that.

Wrong is right, and criminal is not criminal, depending on whom you support.

Peoples short term memory is much of the problem.

I am not surprised that your a North guy, and your likely a GW Bush guy to.

But hey, their just sinners.  

No, their criminals, meddling in other countries affairs, at our expense. 

It's odd that people pick and choose between their criminals on who is heroic, and who should be prosecuted.

Many "say" their pro Constitution, and 100% law and order, until you point out criminal behavior committed by their heroes.

Pseudo conservatism, and pseudo Constitutionalists are actually quite common in reality.

              OLIVER NORTH, REAGANS' LITTLE FALL GUY.
https://todayinclh.com/?event=oliver-north-convicted-for-iran-contra-crimes


IRAN CONTRA REPORT

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1987/11/18/Iran-Contra-report-at-least-four-laws-broken/9088564210000/

Aloha on this'un.

   ..Another one of those days, huh ?

Yep!

You to I guess.

[Northwoods]

Short and sweet and not to get too caught up in an already over stated bloviated discussion, opinions are like assholes every has one.. Some folks love to live in the woulda coulda shoulda world and Monday morning quarterback from the cheap seats. Yawn, past my bed time fellas.

[ironglow]

.
  I watched part of that TM, it certainly was thought provoking..  ...But it rather messed up my computer..will try again soon.

[ironglow]

.
  I watched part of that TM, it certainly was thought provoking..  ...But it rather messed up my computer..will try again soon.

.
No reason why that link would mess up you computer.,.you probably have an internal problem or timed out, or your connection got interrupted.
The first part of the video is history; the second part is the operation of the matrix we're presently under.

BTW, interesting to note 'they' just put a statue outside the United Nations world government headquarters in NYC that is the exact likeness of The Beast described in Revelations. They're not hiding anymore.
.

   
  Yes; the new statue in front of the UN Building..  It appears they are not hiding their following Baphomet any longer..they seem to be boldly in league with him..

   2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.  (Revelation 13:2-7)

[ironglow]

.
   ..And when does that image start to speak ?
    15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

   ..And just when will 'the beast' start issuing new "mandates"?

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.   (Rev 13;15-18)

[ironglow]

.
  Another part to the international jigsaw puzzle..

  The EU headquarters building in Strasbourg, France...  It was patterned after Pieter Breugel the elder's 1563 painting of the Tower of Babel.  Finished in 1999, they were at first inclined to pass it off as "modern architecture", but it seems, many are now admitting openly, where the inspiration came from...

   ...And we all know what happened at the tower of Babel..

[magooch]

So if one is to believe that all politicians are corrupt, or soon will be if they manage to stay in office for any length of time, then we are screwed for sure, because the choice is either go with the commies who make no bones about their plans to enslave us with their nonsense, or go with those who at least throw us a bone now and then (a tax cut and stable sensible economy.  That would be the Republicans.  I'll take the occasional bone choice every time. 

It is said that the best form of leader is a benevolent and otherwise perfect dick tater.  Well in the real world, that is never going to happen.   In the real world we mark our ballots and hope the people we send to our state and national offices are at least not going to totally sell us out.  There was a time when an argument could be made that the Dumbycratics would at least favor the working man.  That is no longer the case.  They no longer try to hide what they really are.  They are communists and anyone who wants to live under that evil is welcome to get the hell out of this country.

[ironglow]

So if one is to believe that all politicians are corrupt, or soon will be if they manage to stay in office for any length of time, then we are screwed for sure, because the choice is either go with the commies who make no bones about their plans to enslave us with their nonsense, or go with those who at least throw us a bone now and then (a tax cut and stable sensible economy.  That would be the Republicans.  I'll take the occasional bone choice every time. 

It is said that the best form of leader is a benevolent and otherwise perfect dick tater.  Well in the real world, that is never going to happen.   In the real world we mark our ballots and hope the people we send to our state and national offices are at least not going to totally sell us out.  There was a time when an argument could be made that the Dumbycratics would at least favor the working man.  That is no longer the case.  They no longer try to hide what they really are.  They are communists and anyone who wants to live under that evil is welcome to get the hell out of this country.

  'Bout iut Magooch..either slavery or an occasional bone... slim pickings indeed.. 

  ..But There is another possible way out...reserved for believers..

[ironglow]

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   Sure, they want us dead...but God has other plans..

[Dee]

Basically the government modus operandi is to create and invent perpetual problems and tension that only they can solve, by taking more of your freedom away. The Biden Regime is a perfect example of this security racket in operation.
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