My Doctor Said I Should Get The Jab

[DDZ]

I wish Fauci and the media would quit calling it the pandemic of the un-vaccinated, because that is simply not true. The most vaccinated countries like Gilbratar at 118% vaccinated, Israel, Iceland, and Ireland covid cases are exploding. If anything the vaccine is what is causing covid to spread. This is the conclusion of a number of top scientists, and medical authorities, who are far superior in knowledge than the big pharma butt kissers like Fauci, and the completely stupid American media who keep repeating "pandemic of the un-vaccinated",  when the outbreaks are centered around the most vaccinated countries and areas in the world.   Covid 19 was a manufactured crises from the beginning, and looking at things through the lens of common sense, it appears the purpose of the mRNA vaccine is to worsen the crises which will call for more counterproductive measures that will threaten freedom, and life itself.   

It has been proven in India and Africa that Ivermectin used as a preventative prevents COVID-19 outbreaks, and Ivermectin has been proven as a cure by the success of many doctors who have used Ivermectin to cure their patients of COVID-19 . Yet western medical authorities continue to lie through their teeth that Ivermectin is not safe.  I don't believe that profit is the only driving force, to cause the continued lying about ivermectin and other drugs. It appears that a darker agenda is in play.

[Mule 11]

same thing with the shot. Bottom line is there is no perfect defense against it and i guess you have to keep in mind that many vaccines are developed over YEARS of research and the covid one only months. Is it effective? Probably is it a foolproof guarantee you wont get it? Nope. But the exact same thing can be said of natural immunity. My sister got covid so had natural immunity and got all three shots too and caught it a second time. Lucky for her she got moderately sick the first time and mildly sick the second time. I could look at myself and say i got all three shots and havent had it once but then im not out in public near as much but my wife works at the local hospital and she got all three and even working there hasnt got it. Bottom line is this is so new that the doctors dont even totaly understand it and im sure as hell not taking advice off of a outdoors forum on the internet by so guys that probably barely made it through high school and wont bash anyone either way for there decisions. want to get my attention show me your infectious disease expertise credentials and not some off some fly by night conspiracy theory webpage. I was a lineman for 30 years. I sure wouldnt take advice from a doctor on building a line and wouldnt take advice from other lineman on beating covid. Truthfully it makes me shake my head. When aids came out billions went into research for vaccines and treatment. now we have covid and its the same. Id bet if they put that much effort into cancer it would have been cured many years ago. This is the perfect diesese for the research people. They arent just dealing with gays that many dont care about. Its everyone rich poor black or white. They even have most of the country thinking treatment is free. Far from it. We all pay for it with our tax money and the way its destroyed our economy. Biden would have you think hes footing the bill. where are we now? About where alexander fleming was in 1928 when he grew the first penicillin in a Petrie dish. If even that far. Take it or dont take it. Either way your rolling the dice and are no more right then the guy that rolled them and decided differnt

Lloyd, we often disagree, BUT this aint one of those times.

This is why I often disagree with both of you...

[Mule 11]

Lloyd, that's all any of us do. The thing I keep in mind is that science is never settled - that's unscientific. Science is a learning process, and what it thought was true last year is not true today. We all should have the humility to admit when what we thought was wrong. I've yet to hear anyone apologize for saying that getting the vaccine would prevent you from getting the virus, and yet that was said repeatedly on the news, by politicians, and some doctors. It was never true, and remains untrue today, but the lack of humility to admit when they're wrong tells me alot about they're character.

Case in point, CDC reported this week that of the first 43 cases of Omicron identified in the US, 79% were fully vaxxed, many of those were boosted. Only 1 was hospitalized, and that for 2 days. Contact tracing shows transmission was from other fully vaxxed, and/or boosted individuals. That's the Center for Disease Control - not someone trying to get 5 minutes of fame.

On Tuesday we will be told that only the unvaxxed are getting the virus, spreading the virus, or being hospitalized for the virus ... none of which is factually true, or supported by the scientific authority everyone is turning to for answers. I will be paying attention to who says that lie, who furthers that lie, and what they do based on that lie.

I heard that lie today. Not surprised and shook my head in disbelief as I just emerged from the woods. Good weekend. No more deer. Butt. A good weekend.

[Mule 11]

Nobody on the planet knows for sure what these vaccines are going to do to them, there is no long-term study that has been completed.  Let's say at best these things make you have a less severe case.  The big question is what else are the shots doing inside the body/immune system?  Looks like you will need a booster every 4-6 months.  So, at some point we are going to find out if these things are the next big breakthrough in science or the biggest farce in the history of the world or somewhere in between. 

All I know for sure is that the vaxes were supposed to prevent covid, when that obviously wasn't the case we were assured that the vaxes prevented transmission, when that wasn't the case we were assured that the vaxes lessened severity, yet I know many vaxed that had it worse than I did.   They even had the gall to say that the vaxes were better than natural immunity! They also said you would have long-term protection after being vaxed, now boosters are part of your life forever, building whatever they are doing to your systems.  Pretty simple case of follow the money trail to the crooks.

I weighted pros and cons and decided I'd rather take my chances than take an unproven technology vaccine and I'm glad I did.  I made it through covid with little issue, not much more than a bad cold.

I call bullsquat on you.
Ivermectin, z pack, high doses of vitamin d will do more than the rest. I do agree with most of what you say. I agree with everything in “this post”

[DDZ]

Big pharma, Fauci, the lyin media, government, and doctors that are threatened will tell you anything to get you to bend over and take the jab.

[locust]

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/12/pharma_scientists_admit_the_covid_vaccines_can_cause_blood_clots.html

[teamnelson]

Back in July the CDC said it was going to withdraw its request to the FDA for an emergency use authorization (EUA) of the PCR test after 31 December. This past week, they evidently went ahead and asked the FDA to withdraw the EUA, effectively dropping the PCR altogether from use. They gave them advance notice so that the labs would have time to find alternative tests.

This is what "follow the science" looks like ... it changes, it admits when something isn't working as hoped, and adjusts.

[Dee]

Well, my oldest is on the mend I guess. It was golf yesterday, with his son in law.

[teamnelson]

Well, my oldest is on the mend I guess. It was golf yesterday, with his son in law.

Great to hear! Merry Christmas!

[Dee]

Well, my oldest is on the mend I guess. It was golf yesterday, with his son in law.

Great to hear! Merry Christmas!

Back at ya TN. Merry Christmas

[Buckskin]

Well surprise, surprise!  Influenza A still exists!  Unfortunately, my son came down with it... He's on tamiflu so hopefully that helps knock it out before Christmas and hopefully nobody else gets it.  I would rather aviod it since I just got over covid a week or so ago.  He feels pretty miserable though.

[NWBear]

"... at 118% vaccinated ..."

Great statistics,  is that like 118% dead???

[DDZ]

No its not 118% dead, and you know that. The 118% comes from the Spaniards jabbed that come into Gilberte to work.  Gibraltar is 100% vaccinated. 

You just seem to have a hard time believing any other news other than what you hear from the lyin mainstream media. Or its just that you don't want to believe any negative news about the jab. Which I think that is your issue, along with many others. Heck if I got the jab I wouldn't want to believe or hear any bad news surrounding the fake vaccine either.   If you open your eyes and ears, you can help yourself by not falling pray to getting the continued boosters that they tell you that you need. 

[Dee]

DDZ, NWbear is a follower. Its all he knows, and like all the other little Bidenestas, hes a button pusher.

[Buckskin]

I was starting to think nobody was going to take the bait on the 118% vaccinated.  Took a while but he bit....

[DDZ]

DDZ, NWbear is a follower. Its all he knows, and like all the other little Bidenestas, hes a button pusher.

I kind of knew that but wasn't completely sure. Thanks for the conformation 

[NWBear]

The only statistics accepted here are the one that fit the "approved" narrative.  I guess if some here said the vax kills you 150% others would believe it, vs the unvax which only kills you 50% - you know the other 50% rises from the dead....  It is funny how so many will accept false statistics (easily checked) as long as they fit the approved narrative.  Keep following the shiny object, Keep following the shiny object, Keep following the shiny object...

Yep follower; who only believes what FOX, OAN, etc tells me to believe...  Meanwhile the ex President, gets the vaccine AND the booster... just like those on FOX tv.

Dee is hilarious, he gets upset when TM7 calls him out, complains about "personal attack" but then goes ahead and does it himself.  I don't believe I attacked any one person, just "group think".   

[Dee]

The only statistics accepted here are the one that fit the "approved" narrative.  I guess if some here said the vax kills you 150% others would believe it, vs the unvax which only kills you 50% - you know the other 50% rises from the dead....  It is funny how so many will accept false statistics (easily checked) as long as they fit the approved narrative.  Keep following the shiny object, Keep following the shiny object, Keep following the shiny object...

Yep follower; who only believes what FOX, OAN, etc tells me to believe...  Meanwhile the ex President, gets the vaccine AND the booster... just like those on FOX tv.

Dee is hilarious, he gets upset when TM7 calls him out, complains about "personal attack" but then goes ahead and does it himself.  I don't believe I attacked any one person, just "group think".

[Buckskin]

What does Trump have to do with it or Fox?  It's a personal decision, risk vs reward.  Simple as that.  In my view the unproven vaxes they are pushing do not have long term risk assessment, so I decided that covid was less of a risk than the vaccines.  Since I made it through covid with little problem, I'd say I made the right choice.  If I would have ended up in the ICU on a vent and died, I probably should have gone the other route...

Saw on the news that the vaxes protect from the omicron version for about 10 weeks.  So now they are saying you need a booster every month and a half... Have fun.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/23/health/booster-protection-omicron.html

[Dee]

Blackmail? Coercion?

Seriously?

That's exactly what it is.

[Dixie-Dude]

The thing is mutating.  Even if you get it once, you could get it again in another variant.  It has been preached from the housetops, take vitamin D supplements, at least 10,000 IU's a day.  It is not going to hurt you unless you take 100,000 IU's a say.  People who have more vitamin D in their systems are less likely to get Covid.  Israeli and British studies say this.  3/4 of Americans are low in vitamin D, especially in winter or very hot summer when people stay inside more and get very little sun. 

The RNA vaccine only protects for an RNA antibody, not T-cell antibodies.  This is the reason the Omicron can spread, It ignores the RNA antibodies.  The shots only give protection for the original variant and some for the Delta variant, but not much from Omicron. 

[NWBear]

Blackmail? Coercion?

Seriously?

That's exactly what it is.

Yep.

Just like speed limits, seatbelt laws, MC helmet laws, zoning laws, must wear clothing (in certain places - like public places), Taxes,  car registration, mandatory car insurance, etc....

Jez "No shirt, No shoes, No service"  no problem.    "No shirt, No shoes, No mask, No service" the sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!!!

[Mule 11]

Blackmail? Coercion?

Seriously?

That's exactly what it is.

Yep.

Just like speed limits, seatbelt laws, MC helmet laws, zoning laws, must wear clothing (in certain places - like public places), Taxes,  car registration, mandatory car insurance, etc....

Jez "No shirt, No shoes, No service"  no problem.    "No shirt, No shoes, No mask, No service" the sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!!!

Comforting for me to know you are taking the jabs and the boosters...

[Dee]

Blackmail? Coercion?

Seriously?

That's exactly what it is.

Yep.

Just like speed limits, seatbelt laws, MC helmet laws, zoning laws, must wear clothing (in certain places - like public places), Taxes,  car registration, mandatory car insurance, etc....

Jez "No shirt, No shoes, No service"  no problem.    "No shirt, No shoes, No mask, No service" the sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!!!

[Dee]

TM, hes a clueless liberal. He has no choice, but to make it up as he goes, because he doesn't know anything.