Their starting to advertise battery powered Ford vehicles.

[Dee]

We have lots of "wind farms" here in West Texas. We also have lots of wind. To go along with the unsightly appearance of these monstrosities, there is the "fact" that they are "extremely inefficient" (17% or less) they are constantly down.

If the wind quits blowing, they don't work. 
If the wind blows too hard, they don't work.
If the wind is gusty they have to be shut down or they're damaged.

Bad weather in the summer tears'em up, and we have more than our share.

Bad winter weather in the winter tears'em up, and we have that to. Freezing fog a favorite.

I hate the damned things and wish bad weather would lay'em all over.

We also have thousands of acres of grazing land tied up in solar farms.

Cows are hard on solar panels and the hardware, so the land normally used for cattle is just sitting there.

I'd like to see them bulldozed into a pile.

[Dixie-Dude]

Some newer windmills recently patented in Iceland and Greenland are vertical with the generators and gearing on the ground.  They can produce power in 10 mph wind and as high as 200 mph.  This should be good for 98% of generation.  They are also smaller and quieter.  Don't know why most don't switch to these.  One company in Iceland has three sizes of vertical windmills.  Small for homes, medium for small business or larger homes, and large for small industrial use.  I will try to find the link.  The big tall giant ones have been around for 20-30 years and are becoming outdated and less efficient. 

[ironglow]

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  Th egovernment should not get involved.  If e-vehicles prove to be worthwhile, folks will buy them..if not, no sale.  The government should not be bribing people to buy them either..

  ..But keep in mind, the leftists do not intend that folks like you or I have a personally owned vehicle in the future.  The elitists, plan placing the "peons', or "great unwashed"..in homes that look like post office boxes..with bus service !
   
    that is, for those they don't obliterate by abortion..

  Meanwhile, we have to put up with leftist BS on how 'pollution free'..wind turbines are..  check this out;

  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8294057/Hundreds-non-recyclable-fiberglass-wind-turbine-blades-pictured-piling-landfills.html

[ironglow]

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  Jobs for manufacturing those huge blades are handed out overseas...but when they are worn out..we have to bury their pollution waste here in the USA !

  https://www.ge.com/renewableenergy/stories/lm-castellon-wind-turbine-blade-manufacturing

[ironglow]

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   Right!  except for those big blades..  read the article...

[Dixie-Dude]

Norway produces 98% of their power from hydro and wind.  So, it can be done.  Scotland is 98% wind.  England, south of Scottland is producing about 30% of their power from wind, and are putting more windmills in the North Sea.  If you notice, both Scotland and Norway are 98%.  The 2% is gas or coal to back up when there is not enough wind or during maintenance.  Both overbuilt the windmills so during low wind they can still get enough power.  However wind in the North Sea is continuous, but sometimes slows down. 

New Norwegian windmills are not large spinners but smaller floating walls of windmills. 

https://splash247.com/norwegians-unveil-new-floating-offshore-wind-technology/

Just one if these can power 80,000 homes.  Since it is a cluster of windmills stacked vertically, they can be worked on individual while the others still work.  It also will take up far less space than existing propeller windmills.  Read the article. 

[Mule 11]

I saw a PNM (big power company in NM) commercial on tv the other day. It was only a picture of a windmill with the caption,"100% pollution free". Yeah, right. This thing just magically appeared appeared set up and connected to the grid without one particle of pollution involved. Oh, and the grid it was connected too caused no pollution when being built. 

A huge windfarm was built many miles north of me last year. The components were hauled in on the railroad and off loaded by 2 huge cranes, then loaded on really big trucks by those cranes and hauled north where they were set up. I wonder just how much pollution was injected into the atmosphere just from the process of getting them from where they were manufactured to where they were installed. Also what about manufacturing, installation, infrastructure built to carry electricity, maintence, etc. pollution? Pollution free my happy a$$.

Ya wouldn’t go and call em liars now would ya?

[phalanx]

Some newer windmills recently patented in Iceland and Greenland are vertical with the generators and gearing on the ground.  They can produce power in 10 mph wind and as high as 200 mph.  This should be good for 98% of generation.  They are also smaller and quieter.  Don't know why most don't switch to these.  One company in Iceland has three sizes of vertical windmills.  Small for homes, medium for small business or larger homes, and large for small industrial use.  I will try to find the link.  The big tall giant ones have been around for 20-30 years and are becoming outdated and less efficient.

Iceland also has geothermal activity. It’s free to heat homes so they dont get a heating bill. I lived there for one year.
They also generate power with that. A beautiful country.