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America has proven they will give up rights
« on: January 03, 2022, 06:40:29 AM »
Government has seen what they need to see, and that is, induce fear into the American public, and they will roll over and give up liberty.   Many people don't even question what the media is telling them, along with what the swamp doctors are telling them.  Its why millions ran out and got an experimental jab.


January 2, 2022
Was COVID authoritarianism a practice run for something far worse?
By Andrea Widburg

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/01/was_covid_authoritarianism_a_practice_run_for_something_far_worse.html

We’ve learned over the last 20 months that, if a government can cause people to panic, people will readily forgo all their freedoms in return for a promise that the government will keep them safe. One man has decided that the COVID panic is a successful trial run for future tyranny based upon the allegedly existential threat of climate change.

John Hinderaker, at Power Line, came across an article from Cambridge University Press entitled “Political Legitimacy, Authoritarianism, and Climate Change.” The author, one Ross Mittiga III, is a Ph.D. in Poly Sci who ran unsuccessfully as the 2017 Democrat party candidate for a seat in the Virginia House of Delegates. According to a quotation on BallotPedia, his campaign focused on climate change:

    As someone who has dedicated his career to studying the politics and ethics of climate change, no issue is more important to me—or central to this campaign—than the need for robust environmental protection and climate action.

Mittiga is a true believer and he believes in the “whatever it takes” approach to stopping the climate from doing what it does naturally. In the article’s summary, we get Mittiga mournfully concluding that “contemporary political theory literature” would answer “no” to the question “Is authoritarian power ever legitimate?” That, however, does not stop the panicked and intrepid Mittiga,

    I argue, however, that there exists another, overlooked aspect of legitimacy concerning a government’s ability to ensure safety and security. While, under normal conditions, maintaining democracy and rights is typically compatible with guaranteeing safety, in emergency situations, conflicts between these two aspects of legitimacy can and often do arise.

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And how did Mittiga come to this conclusion that, if a government promises its citizens safety in an emergency, it can do away indefinitely with civil rights and individual liberty? Why, COVID—what else?

    A salient example of this is the COVID-19 pandemic, during which severe limitations on free movement and association have become legitimate techniques of government.

Mittiga is unmoved by the fact that it’s becoming increasingly clear that those “severe limitations on free movement and association” did nothing to slow COVID’s spread. He would dismiss claims that, by making the population less healthy, COVID authoritarianism probably increased the number of unnecessary deaths, whether from COVID itself, or from untreated diseases (cancer, heart disease, etc.), suicides, and overdoses. What matters is power.

Image: Climate change (edited image). Freepik license.

Mittiga’s contention that “[c]limate change poses an even graver threat to public safety,” means there’s really one way to deal with it: “legitimacy may require a similarly authoritarian approach.” It’s irrelevant to the true believer that climate change is natural and that anthropogenic climate change is illusory.

This is a man who panics when he sees, “Hottest temperature ever” in some place or another without understanding that we have temperature records that go back only 150 years or so. We have no idea what the “hottest temperature ever” is. He’s also unclear on the fact that, as Christopher Monckton explained, the math behind “global warming” is completely wrong.

Still, Mittiga isn’t the only deluded fanatic when it comes to climate change. All Democrats believe in the fiery Armageddon of coming climate change and will do anything to stop it. If that means selling their children into permanent government bondage, they’ll do it. What’s to be hoped, though, is that the disaster that is the Biden administration will cause people to question their allegiance to the Democrat party and to start getting red-pilled hard and fast.

Put another way, at this point, our only hope that leftists will not be able to induce panic leading to climate authoritarianism is to think of Lincoln’s famous saying: “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”

So far, with that “two weeks to flatten the curve” lie, leftists fooled all the people some of the time. In the 20 months after that, they fooled some of the people all the time. That would be the leftists who are turning into human pincushions as they beg for boosters and have whipped out their masks again to protect against a cold.

It remains to be seen whether they can go to the panic well again or if, like the boy who cried wolf, leftists will discover that they’ve finally reached the point at which too few people are willing to be fooled.

For some time, I’ve been looking for a good post in which to use this video about mass psychosis. Given the plan to use climate change to create complete and permanent tyranny in America, this post seems to be as good as any for that purpose:
Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants.    Wm. Penn

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Re: America has proven they will give up rights
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2022, 06:50:19 AM »
This has been going on for years.
I hear a lot of folks talking about losing rights, but only about losing, and a little about taking them back.

WHAT ABOUT, not givin'em up in the first place?

Gun rights has been the main topic for decades, but now its basic freedoms.

The key is drawing that line in the dirt. When enforcement rides up to your porch, what are they gonna leave with?

It ain't that complicated.
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Re: America has proven they will give up rights
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2022, 07:26:33 AM »
Going exactly as the CCP wanted.
In this time i Command ,That you take the Secular to Jerusalem .
There you rid the Holy City of the Scourge of Islam , Make the streets run red with the Blood of those who wish to wash Israel and Christianity from the face of the Earth.
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Re: America has proven they will give up rights
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2022, 07:44:10 AM »
This has been going on for years.
I hear a lot of folks talking about losing rights, but only about losing, and a little about taking them back.

WHAT ABOUT, not givin'em up in the first place?

Gun rights has been the main topic for decades, but now its basic freedoms.

The key is drawing that line in the dirt. When enforcement rides up to your porch, what are they gonna leave with?

It ain't that complicated.


My Question is, Why are We Waitin for Em to Ride Up and get Us One at a Time?

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Re: America has proven they will give up rights
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2022, 08:38:14 AM »
This has been going on for years.
I hear a lot of folks talking about losing rights, but only about losing, and a little about taking them back.

WHAT ABOUT, not givin'em up in the first place?

Gun rights has been the main topic for decades, but now its basic freedoms.

The key is drawing that line in the dirt. When enforcement rides up to your porch, what are they gonna leave with?

It ain't that complicated.


My Question is, Why are We Waitin for Em to Ride Up and get Us One at a Time?
Well. That’s cuz everyone has forgotten the truth.
We must hang together or we will most assuredly hang separately.

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Re: America has proven they will give up rights
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2022, 04:43:00 PM »
Well, we tried it the right way by voting for people who at least say they believe in the Constitution and our rights.  The commycrats have that rigged, so we might never see another legal election at any level.  Unfortunately when it gets this bad, the usual course of events is a revolution, or a civil war.  Neither of those choices would be something to hope for in all honesty.  At least for the short term, we probably will have to see if the people have wised up enough to throw the commies out with an election that is so lopsided that even the corrupt Dumbycratics can't sufficiently cheat it.  Until then--Let's go Brandon!!!!
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Re: America has proven they will give up rights
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2022, 05:21:13 PM »
Well, we tried it the right way by voting for people who at least say they believe in the Constitution and our rights.  The commycrats have that rigged, so we might never see another legal election at any level.  Unfortunately when it gets this bad, the usual course of events is a revolution, or a civil war.  Neither of those choices would be something to hope for in all honesty.  At least for the short term, we probably will have to see if the people have wised up enough to throw the commies out with an election that is so lopsided that even the corrupt Dumbycratics can't sufficiently cheat it.  Until then--Let's go Brandon!!!!
  , If Schumer  manages to change the fillibuster rules all bets are off , The Dems need to get their  National voting rights [cheating] act bill passed to hold onto power.  And  with only two of their own standing in the way [Manchin & Sinema ]  .

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Re: America has proven they will give up rights
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2022, 04:17:10 AM »
Well, we tried it the right way by voting for people who at least say they believe in the Constitution and our rights.  The commycrats have that rigged, so we might never see another legal election at any level.  Unfortunately when it gets this bad, the usual course of events is a revolution, or a civil war.  Neither of those choices would be something to hope for in all honesty.  At least for the short term, we probably will have to see if the people have wised up enough to throw the commies out with an election that is so lopsided that even the corrupt Dumbycratics can't sufficiently cheat it.  Until then--Let's go Brandon!!!!

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Re: America has proven they will give up rights
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2022, 10:10:14 AM »
Guess I need to fire up the reloading press.

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Re: America has proven they will give up rights
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2022, 10:38:55 AM »
Seems to me like everyone has a right to be smart or stupid and that in this country, everyone has been exercising that right during the pandemic.

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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2022, 10:47:56 AM »
Seems to me like everyone has a right to be smart or stupid and that in this country, everyone has been exercising that right during the pandemic.
So. What is your idea of smart?

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Re: America has proven they will give up rights
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2022, 11:09:10 AM »
Guess I need to fire up the reloading press.

What are you going to reload with....plastic bullets and sawdust? 
You can buy at scalping prices, all the boolits, Casings and some powder, but unless you reload for your 50 BMG, try buying primers.

Its obvious, that since taking our guns is too daunting a task for the socialist bastards on both sides of the isle in DC, the next best thing is render them useless. I don't believe for one dam minute the excuses the ammo CEO's are spewing. Like blaming the manufactured pandemic. and hoarders. These so called shortages and price gouging s started long before that farce came along. Even back when the Flu was still present. Before the Chinese Bat virus (COVID) cured it.
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Re: America has proven they will give up rights
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2022, 11:12:37 AM »
I'll just sit on my porch, and call the dance.  ;)
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2022, 11:15:26 AM »
I must say.  I’m not much on dancin...

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Re: America has proven they will give up rights
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2022, 11:18:23 AM »
Can't dance a lick. But I can call it.
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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2022, 11:20:10 AM »
I'll just sit on my porch, and call the dance.  ;)
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Re: America has proven they will give up rights
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2022, 11:41:19 AM »
Can't dance a lick. But I can call it.

Typical musician. ;)......I could pick and grin, but never could dance.
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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2022, 11:54:57 AM »
Guess I need to fire up the reloading press.

What are you going to reload with....plastic bullets and sawdust? 
You can buy at scalping prices, all the boolits, Casings and some powder, but unless you reload for your 50 BMG, try buying primers.

Its obvious, that since taking our guns is too daunting a task for the socialist bastards on both sides of the isle in DC, the next best thing is render them useless. I don't believe for one dam minute the excuses the ammo CEO's are spewing. Like blaming the manufactured pandemic. and hoarders. These so called shortages and price gouging s started long before that farce came along. Even back when the Flu was still present. Before the Chinese Bat virus (COVID) cured it.
So. No more flu? Now that is good news :)

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Re: America has proven they will give up rights
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2022, 01:41:47 PM »
Guess I need to fire up the reloading press.

What are you going to reload with....plastic bullets and sawdust? 
You can buy at scalping prices, all the boolits, Casings and some powder, but unless you reload for your 50 BMG, try buying primers.

Its obvious, that since taking our guns is too daunting a task for the socialist bastards on both sides of the isle in DC, the next best thing is render them useless. I don't believe for one dam minute the excuses the ammo CEO's are spewing. Like blaming the manufactured pandemic. and hoarders. These so called shortages and price gouging s started long before that farce came along. Even back when the Flu was still present. Before the Chinese Bat virus (COVID) cured it.

As I Recall, All the Company's that Make Loading Components in this Country, are Owned by Bigger Companys.... Most of which are Subsidiaries of even Bigger Companys....I Think the BIG Companys are doin what the Marxist Government is Tellin Em to do or Not Do 

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Re: America has proven they will give up rights
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2022, 02:30:34 PM »
Seems to me like everyone has a right to be smart or stupid and that in this country, everyone has been exercising that right during the pandemic.
So. What is your idea of smart?

Not biting.

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Re: America has proven they will give up rights
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2022, 02:41:29 PM »
Seems to me like everyone has a right to be smart or stupid and that in this country, everyone has been exercising that right during the pandemic.
So. What is your idea of smart?

Not biting.
That’s ok. I already know your idea of smart is submission...

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Re: America has proven they will give up rights
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2022, 02:56:14 PM »
Seems to me like everyone has a right to be smart or stupid and that in this country, everyone has been exercising that right during the pandemic.
So. What is your idea of smart?

Not biting.
That’s ok. I already know your idea of smart is submission...

Ok, use your clairvoyance and tell me how you know.  8)
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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2022, 02:59:03 PM »
He has admitted in the past. Ask him yourself. Like most things I post. No clairvoyance needed...

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« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2022, 03:07:04 PM »
I actually like gene and I often wonder if he truly has it in him to submit.

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« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2022, 03:15:55 PM »
I don't think gene wants to argue. That's is what I get in past one on ones with him.
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Re: America has proven they will give up rights
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2022, 04:00:59 AM »
NW_hunter.  I learned the last time the gun control mob ruled the country and I made sure that I would not run out this time. Not even close to running out.