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Re: truck sales last year
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2022, 03:09:20 AM »
"Made in china" strike one. "Made for harbor freight" strike two. Might be a great winch but ill never find out. this is the winch ive got on my jeep. https://www.extremeterrain.com/smittybilt-gen2-x2o-10000lb-winch-synthetic-wireless-8717.html
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« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2022, 03:16:09 AM »
jeepsters were really cool
Sold the 67 Jeepster Commando. Cool Jeep. Metal doors, steel half cab and small bed. Totally rust free with a 350 in it. Came out of Oregon. Never drove it in the rain or snow. It spent most of its time in the barn collecting dust.

The heater was sort of wishful thinking but it could idle up steep hills in 2nd gear. Biggest thing I didn’t like was the brakes. Knew one day I’d forget and brake at the normal time and it’d be too late.

Replaced it with a ext cab 03 ZR2 which is a very small truck by today’s standards. It “floats” like a Jeep in the muck, has a bed and just the right amount of room inside for one guy hunting or farm work.
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« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2022, 05:26:18 AM »
"Made in china" strike one. "Made for harbor freight" strike two. Might be a great winch but ill never find out. this is the winch ive got on my jeep. https://www.extremeterrain.com/smittybilt-gen2-x2o-10000lb-winch-synthetic-wireless-8717.html

That is your perception. I'll take a guys word for it that uses wenches on a daily basis for his business. Do you know your Smittybilt winch is made in China?  Sold by an American company but its actually made by the low bidder of China. 
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« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2022, 07:10:27 AM »
"Made in china" strike one. "Made for harbor freight" strike two. Might be a great winch but ill never find out. this is the winch ive got on my jeep. https://www.extremeterrain.com/smittybilt-gen2-x2o-10000lb-winch-synthetic-wireless-8717.html

That is your perception. I'll take a guys word for it that uses wenches on a daily basis for his business. Do you know your Smittybilt winch is made in China?  Sold by an American company but its actually made by the low bidder of China.

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Re: truck sales last year
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2022, 02:35:38 AM »
so are most warn winches sold today. Only ones not are the old classic series that are assembled in Oregon with "globally sourced parts" I much more trust a company thats main sales are winches vs a company thats main sales are the cheapest crappiest tools that a guy can buy. Ive ordered from them in the past and dont think i was ever pleasantly surprised with what came. But the real eye opener was they just put a store up here. I walked around it for about an hour with the wife that wanted to buy me a birthday present. I told her lets get out of here and go to lowes. At least there crappy tools are less crappy. My son in law has been the head mechanic at a big local diesel repair shop for 20 years. Want to ask him if he buys stull at harbor frieght!! You might get a good laugh out of him.  ;) Personaly id trust a 4x4 shop that recommended 250 dollar winches about as much as a race car shop that recommended 50 dollar tires. What winches like that or even my superwinch are good for are causal users. A guy that might get stuck once a year and hopefully in something light like a jeep not a diesel 4x4 pickup. Same thing goes for rope vs steel cable. I use rope but have you ever seen it on a wrecker?? Son in laws diesel ram has a warn zeon 12k with steel cable. he calls mine a atv winch. Which is basicaly what it is and how its used.
"Made in china" strike one. "Made for harbor freight" strike two. Might be a great winch but ill never find out. this is the winch ive got on my jeep. https://www.extremeterrain.com/smittybilt-gen2-x2o-10000lb-winch-synthetic-wireless-8717.html

That is your perception. I'll take a guys word for it that uses wenches on a daily basis for his business. Do you know your Smittybilt winch is made in China?  Sold by an American company but its actually made by the low bidder of China.
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Re: truck sales last year
« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2022, 05:26:20 AM »
so are most warn winches sold today. Only ones not are the old classic series that are assembled in Oregon with "globally sourced parts" I much more trust a company thats main sales are winches vs a company thats main sales are the cheapest crappiest tools that a guy can buy. Ive ordered from them in the past and dont think i was ever pleasantly surprised with what came. But the real eye opener was they just put a store up here. I walked around it for about an hour with the wife that wanted to buy me a birthday present. I told her lets get out of here and go to lowes. At least there crappy tools are less crappy. My son in law has been the head mechanic at a big local diesel repair shop for 20 years. Want to ask him if he buys stull at harbor frieght!! You might get a good laugh out of him.  ;) Personaly id trust a 4x4 shop that recommended 250 dollar winches about as much as a race car shop that recommended 50 dollar tires. What winches like that or even my superwinch are good for are causal users. A guy that might get stuck once a year and hopefully in something light like a jeep not a diesel 4x4 pickup. Same thing goes for rope vs steel cable. I use rope but have you ever seen it on a wrecker?? Son in laws diesel ram has a warn zeon 12k with steel cable. he calls mine a atv winch. Which is basicaly what it is and how its used.
"Made in china" strike one. "Made for harbor freight" strike two. Might be a great winch but ill never find out. this is the winch ive got on my jeep. https://www.extremeterrain.com/smittybilt-gen2-x2o-10000lb-winch-synthetic-wireless-8717.html

That is your perception. I'll take a guys word for it that uses wenches on a daily basis for his business. Do you know your Smittybilt winch is made in China?  Sold by an American company but its actually made by the low bidder of China.

For winches up to 12,000lbs rope works fine. Matts off road recovery uses them for everything. He says he will never go back to cable. When he gets a winch. He spools the cable off and puts a rope on it.  He even uses a rope for pulling people out of snow, sand, and off hillsides. Again he does this daily.  I even watched him yank a big heavy motorhome out of sand with a kenetic rope.  I was amazed by how much tension could be applied to the rope, where a cable would have snapped instantly.  The rope works by kinetic energy, and works way better than any chain or cable ever would.  Plus it won't kill or maim someone if it would break, like a cable or chain will.
There has been a lot of technology go into winch and pull ropes, that you are not obviously aware of.  You need to clue your son in law in on it also.   
I don't disagree that a lot of Harbor freights tools are not good for daily use. In fact I own very few tools from harbor freight, but if someone owns and uses a Badlands winch for daily use in a business, and has been for some time. You will never convince me that they are not as good as a smittybilt or a warn.  Why not watch some of Matts recovery videos. You might learn something.  There is a lot of crap that is made in China and sold by American companies.  Almost all power and battery tools are made over seas like DeWalt for instance, yet people use them in their every day jobs.     
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Re: truck sales last year
« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2022, 06:28:28 AM »
Here is a pickup with a camper being pulled out of sand with a rope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J02B_Kr1kbM

Here they are using a winch spooled with a rope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRlwK5RkyE8
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Re: truck sales last year
« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2022, 06:42:40 AM »
Personaly id trust a 4x4 shop that recommended 250 dollar winches about as much as a race car shop that recommended 50 dollar tires.

First of all Paul's shop is not a 4x4 shop. Its a fabrication shop. the channel is called Fab Rats, and he is very talented at what he does. He put a Apex winch on his rock crawler he built, and put a lot of money into.  Don't try to support your argument by trying to make it out like he or someone else don't know what they are doing.  He doesn't recommend Apex winches. He just put one on his rock crawler that he will rely on get him out of stuck situations, and to rescue others.    Second, the Apex winch is more than $250.   
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Re: truck sales last year
« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2022, 04:18:18 AM »
Big bucks for bumpers with winch mounts. $1,400 to $2,500. Jeep systems are reasonable priced though.

Not sure about HD diesel’s. Bumpers / winches seem to block a lot of airflow.  Sides the radiator, there’s the transmission cooler below the stock bumper and intercooler above it to think of.

One nice thing about those bumpers, they do make a nice deer catcher.
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« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2022, 04:36:15 AM »
Buddy of mine just ordered a 1 ton diesel Chevy, should have it in 3 to 6 months if he's lucky, $70k.   He said most dealers were putting $5-10k on top of ordered trucks as well, but our local dealer does not, for now...  He has an 06' Duramax which he paid $42k for that he's confident he can get $20K for and I believe it, low miles for the year and impeccably taken care of.
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Re: truck sales last year
« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2022, 11:18:18 PM »
my son in law does recovery on the side. He get a chuckle out of those. Try pulling out a 4x4 stuck up to the hood in mud with the muds suction holding it in place. Hes got a 2 ton 4x4 wrecker with an hydraulic winch on the front and back and a bombardier tracked unit with hydraulic winches on both ends too.  I could have pulled most of those out with my dads suburu. I do agree with one thing though. Ive had winches for 40 years on jeeps. Wasnt till this last one i went rope instead of cable. I absolutely love the rope. Only downsides are that theres quite a bit less of it then steel cable and up here its usually mud or snow or both and you spend some time keeping the mud and dirt off your rope. Every time i use it i have to go home pull it all out and hose it off and respool it. But its sure easier to deal with. I guess the terrain there is a bit differnt then here. Probably why you see very few 8k winches sold up here anymore. Its usually 6k for side by side utvs and 10k for jeeps and most who put one on a full sized truck usually go 12k Its why tires needs are totaly different to. In the desert those wide balloon tires with no aggressive tread does best up here we need narrow tall very aggressive tires that mud will clean out of when spun and have enough height and ground clearance to give you more of an opportunity to dig down to solid ground. Pretty easy up here to see who th posers are in tourist season. Big lifted jeeps with huge wide tires that look like a glorified all season car tire. Most of them with a rack on top with a canoe or a couple kayaks. Probably a biden harris bumper sticker too.
Here is a pickup with a camper being pulled out of sand with a rope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J02B_Kr1kbM

Here they are using a winch spooled with a rope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRlwK5RkyE8
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