Putin all lined up...on the Ukrainian border..

[ironglow]

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  ....And he knows Joe is weak as a wet kitten.  Should we soon expect a false flag operation on that border?

[Mule 11]

Ukraine is Russia's Cuban missile crisis. Positively they will not allow any further NWO advance by their NATO military machine and pressure politics. They have made that very clear. In fact, they have no further ground to retreat to _ _ they are already contained behind their own borders with advancing NWO forces led by US-NATO occupying Ukraine with missiles 4 minutes from Moscow.
They see this as intolerable. I believe if the NWO-US-NATO alliance doesn't back off the Russian's will blitzkrieg Ukraine and wipe out NATO forces and weapons as they said they would. So prepare for all kinds of false flags, accusations, and fog of war. And the Russian forces will have the mindset that they are fighting for their Motherland.
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Yep. And many buy into our governments and msn rhetoric. Ya don’t have to look far.

[Bob Riebe]

Russia is playing swamp liberals and a lot of Rinos for fools while the real danger, China is being ignored.
Puting know what the press over here is spewing and using that to make fools of U.S. politicians, including too many Republicans.

Russian cannot afford a war, monetarily and human cost wise, China owns the U.S. they can do what they want in the Pacific with the morons in charge of the Swamp right now .
Japan and other Pacific countries are the only ones standing up to China.

There should be ZERO U.S. people going to the Olympics.

[Mule 11]

Japan ruled china once. before/until we nuked em.

[mcbammer]

   Britain is currently supplying  Ukraine  with anti -tank weapons. 

[orerancher]

Nobody can afford a war.
But maybe the USA is the least able to afford a war.
Maybe the Globalist NWO would love getting the USA in a war _ _ to finish us off!
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Slow Joe Surrenders before the First Shot...And the Chinese Send Troops to Occupy the US?

[ironglow]

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  Slow Joe has already surrendered..perhaps not by waving the white flag and shouting "no mas"..but he has nevertheless surrendered..
   He did it by surrendering with covid and what the CCP owes the rest of the world, surrendering to the Russian pipeline.  He did it as he listened to the "woke" traitors in goveenment when he halted our drilling, fracking and closed down pipeline projects.

   Then he capped off the biggest surrender of all time, when he surrendered in Afghanistan..and gave the Taliban $85 billion in first class military weapons, plus pllets of cash.

  Were Pres Trump in office, we wouldn't need missiles in Ukraine, because there was never any equivocating
  going on with Trump..and his commitment to peace through strength" !

[Mule 11]

Hey. Look at the bright side. Maybe they will bring back some of the 350 billion worth of armament left in Afghanistan...

[VA Rifleman]

Nord Stream 2 is already built but flowing no gas. Germany thought it a great idea shutting down their nuke plants to rely on Russian gas and hope the wind blows.

News blurb from yesterday. Biden admin just pulled support for a gas pipeline from Israel to Europe via Turkey and Greece. Something about transitioning from fossil fuels says the official story.

Recent opinion piece suggested NATO cap membership at current level. Leaves Putin with no excuse to invade.

[ironglow]

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   As you likely know The big natural gas pipeline was halted under an embargo agreement.  Then President Trump opened up drilling and fracking.
  This gave the US a great deal of leverage in Europe..and Europe got a big break in fuel costs.  The day after Biden took office, he cancelled all the drilling and fracking, and fired the pipeline workers, by shutting them down also.
  Following these economy destroying acts, his signed off on allowing the Russians to build their pipeline.

   Now, western Europe can bow to Russia's (more expensive) demands..or suffer cold winters.  Putin now has great leverage over Germany, Austria, Switzerland, France, Belgium..etc, etc.

  The world economy is still run with petroleum, and by the Demonrats shutting down our petroleum dominance which brought on the booming Trump economy  and signing for Russia to serve western Europe,
 
  He effectively transferred our big, booming, Trump economy..over to Putin and Russia.. and providing Russia with a great deal more wealth touse for expansonist adventures.

     Now do we see who has been "colluding with the Russians" ?

   Here, from Euronews;
   
          "Europe needs gas from elsewhere, and Russia has a lot of it
Kostis Geropoulos, Energy and Russian Affairs Editor at The New Europe told Euronews that TurkStream may be a “different route but essentially it’s the same supplier.” However, he adds, “all these years, Europe has been trying very strongly to diversify sources.“

Russia’s natural gas exports are its trump-card in the ongoing showdown between East and West. All of the country’s efforts in destabilising some European states through disinformation campaigns, intelligence and other means appear minor in comparison to the leverage it has in terms of energy.

Some critics are worried that the Kremlin is not only using TurkStream to financially impact Ukraine but also to drive a wedge into European energy security. On top of that the European Union energy watchdog body, Energy Community, said in March 2019 that the new pipeline will hurt competition in the region.

Fundamentally, TurkStream deepens Russia’s influence in Europe 

   The map;

   

[billy_56081]

Nord Stream 2 is already built but flowing no gas. Germany thought it a great idea shutting down their nuke plants to rely on Russian gas and hope the wind blows.

News blurb from yesterday. Biden admin just pulled support for a gas pipeline from Israel to Europe via Turkey and Greece. Something about transitioning from fossil fuels says the official story.

Recent opinion piece suggested NATO cap membership at current level. Leaves Putin with no excuse to invade.

Why would he have any say on this?

[ironglow]

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   "Recent opinion piece suggested NATO cap membership at current level. Leaves Putin with no excuse to invade."

    An excuse can always be found.  Germany desired to occupy Poland in 1939...but they needed and excuse to do so..
 
  On September 1, 1939, Polish troops streamed acrosst the border that Poland shared with Germany, attacked and took over a radio station, located nearly on the border.

  There was the excuse to attack...and attack Germany did !  One 'fly in the ointment'..  those troops who crossed the Polish/Germanborder, and took over the radio station; they weren't Polish, They were German !

    ..A very successful "false flag" operation..

[VA Rifleman]

“News blurb from yesterday. Biden admin just pulled support for a gas pipeline from Israel to Europe via Turkey and Greece”.


Why would he have any say on this?

Good question. All I got is the same reason we think we have a vote on Nord Stream 2. The gas would be sourced from Israel not Russia. Pipeline would be the deepest ever constructed.

[ironglow]

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  VA rifleman;
     I'm not totally sure, but I look at the map above..showing piplines and proposed pipelines...I don't see any going through Israel.
   Plus, I rather doubt that with Russia forming a combine with Iran and whatever Arab nations they can get on board, that they would risk doing any major business deals with Israel.

  TM;
   I don't consider russia to be near as expansionist as China, however Putin may have reasons to behave in that   manner.
    Putin's last venture..when another weakiling..or US hater, stood back while Putin ushed into the Crimea, was a political payoff for him.

  Apparently the Russian people for the most part, long for the old glory of the massive soviet Union lands..
   
    Before Putin invaded the Crimea, his popularity at home stood at something like 40%!  After the successful invasion and reinstatement..it shot up to 90%...  Motive enough for adventure?

  Remember the Nazis claim for the "sudetenland" ?   Some ethnic germans were living there, so it was the perfect excuse for the Nazies to invade Czechoslavakia.

   Austria fell easily, since much of their population was pro-German .  Plus of course, despite Obama's ignorance on the subject...Austrians do indeed speak German...

[ironglow]

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   Of course, biden could nip all this destructive action against the United States...by reopening drilling, fracking and pipelines, putting us back where Trump had America.
    .. ..A booming economy, the petroleum boss of the world, and the #1 superpower of the world, where when the American president spoke...other nations closely listened..and usually complied..

[VA Rifleman]

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 VA rifleman;
 I'm not totally sure, but I look at the map above..showing piplines and proposed pipelines...I don't see any going through Israel.

Plus, I rather doubt that with Russia forming a combine with Iran and whatever Arab nations they can get on board, that they would risk doing any major business deals with Israel.

Did I say anything about Israel doing business with Russia?

Offshore gas in the Mediterranean. Real deep. Tamar, Leviathan and Karish fields.

From 2014. “Israel announced on Sunday the discovery of a major offshore gas field, the third to be located in its waters in the past five years, augmenting its newly acquired status as an energy power”.

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/israel-announces-discovery-of-offshore-gas-field/

More finds in 2019.
http://www.maltanewsagency.com/2019/04/israel-new-offshore-natural-gas-fields/

Recent article mentioning the pipe line in question.

“The discovery of more major natural gas fields in Israel since 2009, including Tamar and Leviathan, has transformed the Jewish state from an energy-dependent country into an energy supplier, both domestically and abroad.

Israel is now planning to supply former adversaries Jordan and Egypt with natural gas valued at $26 billion and plans to construct a 2,000-km. pipeline to supply Eastern Mediterranean gas to Europe”

https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Significant-natural-gas-discovery-made-off-Israels-shore-586905

Turns out. Lots of gas in the Med. One reason Greece and Turkey are arguing.

[ironglow]

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  " The gas would be sourced from Israel not Russia. Pipeline would be the deepest ever constructed."
   I had not heard of the strike of gas by Isreal..thanks for the data.  Pleased to hear about it though, that may lessen Russian ability to make West Europe cry "uncle" !

  One question arises however..  The Free Beacon article you referenced, claims the field is 90 miles off Israel's coast ..in the Mediterranean.  Can Israel or anybody else for that matter, have a solid claim 90 miles out into the Mediterranean?  Sure seems like that would bring a dispute of it's own..

[VA Rifleman]

IG. Exclusive economic zone. Typically 200 miles from the 12 mile territorial line.

Cypress/ Israel agreement.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4000679,00.html

[NWBear]

"Of course, biden could nip all this destructive action against the United states...by reopening drilling, fracking and pipelines, putting us back where Trump had America."

H'mmmm

Oil Production in Feb. 2020 was 13,100 thousand barrels a day (a record high) Then went to 9,700 barrels a day by August of 2020 (under President Trump, apparently the President doesn't control oil production - you know free market and all) By President Biden's time Feb 2021 it was at 10,000 barrels a day.  Now we are at 11,700 barrels a day. 

Where is the "destruction" and roll off of production? 

Contrary to popular desire the "government" doesn't tell oil companies how much to produce or WHAT PRICE TO SELL IT AT; that would be "socialism".  Same with inflation, do you want the government to set prices??  Isn't that "socialism" I thought most here wanted a "free market" economy???

[mcbammer]

   I think Biden is compromised , He & Hunter didnt take Air Force 2  to Ukraine  on a sight seeing trip .

[ironglow]

Nobody can afford a war.
But maybe the USA is the least able to afford a war.
Maybe the Globalist NWO would love getting the USA in a war _ _ to finish us off!
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      ^^^THERE^^ is the nub of the situation...  The globalists are seeking diligently to break the world economy, so they can take over with their New World Order..or the "Reset"!

  It sure looks like this is a PLANdemic, and the various shortages, mask demands and harassment while trying to do "business as usual"...are all simply attempts to see just how much regimentation from  Big Brother, the American people will tolerate !

   Keep in mind, same thing with longshoremen instituting blockages inour ports, and teachers refusing to teach as they were trained to do..along with teachers insisting on teaching this Neo-racism crap.  All that is just the unions, following the orders passed down from the supreme oligharky .
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[Mule 11]

"Of course, biden could nip all this destructive action against the United states...by reopening drilling, fracking and pipelines, putting us back where Trump had America."

H'mmmm

Oil Production in Feb. 2020 was 13,100 thousand barrels a day (a record high) Then went to 9,700 barrels a day by August of 2020 (under President Trump, apparently the President doesn't control oil production - you know free market and all) By President Biden's time Feb 2021 it was at 10,000 barrels a day.  Now we are at 11,700 barrels a day. 

Where is the "destruction" and roll off of production? 

Contrary to popular desire the "government" doesn't tell oil companies how much to produce or WHAT PRICE TO SELL IT AT; that would be "socialism".  Same with inflation, do you want the government to set prices??  Isn't that "socialism" I thought most here wanted a "free market" economy???

And. How is that free market  and economy working under leftist/socialist control comrade? Your leftist/socialist government is f ing things up on a huge scale and all the proceeds are going to our/I mean my enemies not yours... Make enemies of America great again aye comrade?

[Bob Riebe]

In 1954 Krushchev literally gave Crimea to the Ukraine to appease the population there as they loathed the Soviet Union.
Russia took back what the Soviet Union gave away.

They have no use for the rest of the Ukraine and are not going to invade but as I said this is just the Swamps way of taking eyes off of China, where there is a huge threat, to every one.

[Mule 11]

In 1954 Krushchev literally gave Crimea to the Ukraine to appease the population there as they loathed the Soviet Union.
Russia took back what the Soviet Union gave away.

They have no use for the rest of the Ukraine and are not going to invade but as I said this is just the Swamps way of taking eyes off of China, where there is a huge threat, to every one.

China IS our biggest threat and enemy. Including all those who kiss xi ping’s ass... The list is long on the ass/boot lickers...

[ironglow]

In 1954 Krushchev literally gave Crimea to the Ukraine to appease the population there as they loathed the Soviet Union.
Russia took back what the Soviet Union gave away.

They have no use for the rest of the Ukraine and are not going to invade but as I said this is just the Swamps way of taking eyes off of China, where there is a huge threat, to every one.

China IS our biggest threat and enemy. Including all those who kiss xi ping’s ass... The list is long on the ass/boot lickers...

   ..And that list I suspect, includes a large number people who have been elected by Americans, who are expecting them to look out for American interests..but are only looking out for their own financial interests !

  ...And all that to the detriment of the USA !

 

   ..

[Dee]

The Ukrain is of no strategic, or other wise value to the United States, and is already under the control of a very corrupt government.
They aren't a member of NATO, and NATO doesn't really seem to care.

Point? We need to mind our own damn business.

[ironglow]

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  ..Still, there's nothing quite like giving Putin permission beforehand...

       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiMDmtcQEEM

 

[Bob Riebe]

NATO does not want Ukraine in NATO; and a defense related person on Tucker's show last night, said BOTH parties are acting like morons, as Ukraine is of no interest to the U.S. or Russia.
To paraphrase they are acting like babbling fools for political reasons.

Putin is using the Ukraine, the same way he used Obama'a Syria; a way to find out how the U.S. acts and reacts as far as defense matters go, although Syria gave Russia an open thearter to test their weapons systems in a true conflict, not just shooting down range.

Russia is now flight testing  the first of their newly modified Blackjack bomber, which befoe was nukes only but now can carry at least 100,000 pound conventional bomb load for short disances.

I would have pasted it but it would have been pages long, an article by a former submarine hunter about the danger of diesel and other non-nuclear submarines to the U.S. Navy.
He said he regretted never have the chance to even practice hunt a diesel submarine but one of his superiors when he asked what they sound like on sonar -- took a flashlight and turned it on -- he said that is what they sound like.
China is now building those, including AIP air-independent types.
He said they do not have the range or ability to stay submerged as long as a nuclear submarine and then inserted, if we go to war over there, it will be in their waters, they do not need long range.

[ironglow]

  .
  As TM says;

   " NATO is the military hammer and pressure point of the Gobalist one world Reset banker elite, which has for years messed with Ukraine as a method to get at resource rich Russia. As globalist Soros and Kissinger said the biggest hinderance to the establishment of the NWO is the USA; and by extension Russia.
If the Globalist can engineer a massive war between Russia and the USA which would engulf Europe, they can wipe out 2/3's of the white Christian world. Presto...instant NWO, to be based on the CCP Beast System. No doubt Biden and his cabinet, the Covidians, and the social demoncrats are all in on this project .
Otherwise, how is Biden's fixation on Ukraine explained?"
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  ^^^THAT^^^ ..Worth noting...
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[Lloyd Smale]

yup and piss on nato. We do all the work and sacrafice our soldiers while the others sit back. Germany and france arent going to help and germany is actually helping russia. I say PISS ON NATO. Let europe worry about russia and china. WE dont need there oil we were energy independent 2 years ago. Trump had it right. Tell nato to pound sand. We dont need them. they need us!!

The Ukrain is of no strategic, or other wise value to the United States, and is already under the control of a very corrupt government.
They aren't a member of NATO, and NATO doesn't really seem to care.

Point? We need to mind our own damn business.