How did our country go down so fast?

[phalanx]

Easy answers. Widespread political corruption, piss poor leadership, bias news reporting, debauchery, ignoring the Constitution, defunding the Police. Open borders. Just to name a few.

[Mule 11]

Easy answers. Widespread political corruption, piss poor leadership, bias news reporting, debauchery, ignoring the Constitution, defunding the Police. Open borders. Just to name a few.

I thought it was fatassed lesbians like rosie odd donnel that caused it...

[DDZ]

For one thing politicians have been ignoring the Constitution for decades in many ways. Its pretty evident the three branches of government are working in unison to circumvent the Constitution. Its one big happy party of Donkeys and Elephants posing to be in opposition, when there really is not much difference.  There is a reason that the RNC, and DNC align against Tea Party Constitutional candidates.  Its the Constitution.   

[nw_hunter]

It didn't happen fast. It may appear that way to some who haven't followed the spread of socialism, but it's been going on for a long time.

[ironglow]

It didn't happen fast. It may appear that way to some who haven't followed the spread of socialism, but it's been going on for a long time.

   ^^^DITTO^^^  In some cases it is referrred to a "Fabian Socialism", others "Fascism" still others "Demorat socialists..   Some started as far back as the 19th century.

[Ranger99]

It didn't happen fast. It may appear that way to some who haven't followed the spread of socialism, but it's been going on for a long time.

^ ^ ^ this ^ ^

Too many people were bought off
with " freebies " and were afraid that
they'd end
There's a good many that will be
surprised for whatever reason when
we all start missing meals and the
water and electricity stops flowing

[Mule 11]

It didn't happen fast. It may appear that way to some who haven't followed the spread of socialism, but it's been going on for a long time.

^ ^ ^ this ^ ^

Too many people were bought off
with " freebies " and were afraid that
they'd end
There's a good many that will be
surprised for whatever reason when
we all start missing meals and the
water and electricity stops flowing

Just curious as to your plan when the water and electric/supply train ends?

[Dixie-Dude]

Clinton allowed gays in the military.  Clinton nominated far left liberal judges, that was a start.  Bush, well, was weak, except for starting wars.  Obama worked behind the scenes to take apart things.  He promoted liberal military leaders, appointed liberal judges, stirred the pot on race relations. 

Trump tried to reverse all this mess, but was opposed by all the bureaucracies, which have entrenched liberals running them, including the FBI.  Then too many politicians on both sides get kickback money and stock, and insider trading to get rich for themselves.  Then things like the military industrial complex, the tech complex, the big pharma complex, and the list goes on. 

Liberal create a problem and say the only way to fix it is with a government program or take over.  For instance, health care insurance.  It was going along fine.  Clinton by signing the "free trade agreements" took millions of middle class, low skilled industrial jobs overseas.  These jobs provided health care for their employees and a middle class income.  Such as textiles, shoes, plastic fabrication of parts.  This created a mess going from 80-85% insured with health care to about 60%.  Bam, the health care crisis.  Obama tried to have the government take it over, but Trump stopped that, but left a mess of high health care costs and high medicine costs.  Then pushing the gay and trans agendas like it is commonplace, which it is not. 

Then, in 1960, 50% of Americans attended church at least twice a week.  Add the once a week and you have a majority.  Today it is only about 10% nationwide and about 25% in the Bible belt.  Human life isn't worth much, as you see with abortion and murders every week, especially in the big cities.  People have become self centered, selfish, and hedonistic.  Schools have been taken over by liberals, and kids graduate from high school, and cannot balance a checkbook, and don't know how our government works, or why what is in the constitution is in there.  Sad state we are in. 

So many good things are happening in medicine, energy, robotics, etc.  Yet, so many bad people now adays. 

[mcbammer]

Clinton allowed gays in the military.  Clinton nominated far left liberal judges, that was a start.  Bush, well, was weak, except for starting wars.  Obama worked behind the scenes to take apart things.  He promoted liberal military leaders, appointed liberal judges, stirred the pot on race relations. 

Trump tried to reverse all this mess, but was opposed by all the bureaucracies, which have entrenched liberals running them, including the FBI.  Then too many politicians on both sides get kickback money and stock, and insider trading to get rich for themselves.  Then things like the military industrial complex, the tech complex, the big pharma complex, and the list goes on. 

Liberal create a problem and say the only way to fix it is with a government program or take over.  For instance, health care insurance.  It was going along fine.  Clinton by signing the "free trade agreements" took millions of middle class, low skilled industrial jobs overseas.  These jobs provided health care for their employees and a middle class income.  Such as textiles, shoes, plastic fabrication of parts.  This created a mess going from 80-85% insured with health care to about 60%.  Bam, the health care crisis.  Obama tried to have the government take it over, but Trump stopped that, but left a mess of high health care costs and high medicine costs.  Then pushing the gay and trans agendas like it is commonplace, which it is not. 

Then, in 1960, 50% of Americans attended church at least twice a week.  Add the once a week and you have a majority.  Today it is only about 10% nationwide and about 25% in the Bible belt.  Human life isn't worth much, as you see with abortion and murders every week, especially in the big cities.  People have become self centered, selfish, and hedonistic.  Schools have been taken over by liberals, and kids graduate from high school, and cannot balance a checkbook, and don't know how our government works, or why what is in the constitution is in there.  Sad state we are in. 

So many good things are happening in medicine, energy, robotics, etc.  Yet, so many bad people now adays.

Good summation .  You always hit the nail on the head .

[ironglow]

   1) We accepted computerized voting

   2) Too many  people voted stupidly, running on emotion instead of intelligence.
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“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”

― Ronald Reagan

[oldandslow]

This is the snowball effect. Roll a snowball down hill and and it's gets larger and larger as it goes farther and farther down that hill. This situation had it's start back with the great depression, took a time out for WW II, and then resumed. It has been caused by the voters of this country. WE, or the majority of WE, elected the people that are doing this to us and are therefore responsible. The politicians are only doing what WE let them get away with. Since this WE is in the minority I don't see a way out of this.

[Lloyd Smale]

one word covers it. SOCIALISM

[ironglow]

This is the snowball effect. Roll a snowball down hill and and it's gets larger and larger as it goes farther and farther down that hill. This situation had it's start back with the great depression, took a time out for WW II, and then resumed. It has been caused by the voters of this country. WE, or the majority of WE, elected the people that are doing this to us and are therefore responsible. The politicians are only doing what WE let them get away with. Since this WE is is the minority I don't see a way out of this.

   Here's one of the "pushers" of that snowball..  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society#:~:text=The%20Fabian%20Society%20is%20a,rather%20than%20by%20revolutionary%20overthrow.&text=The%20Fabian%20Society%20founded%20the%20London%20School%20of%20Economics%20in%201895.

   The Fabian Socialists were organized in 1884, and have set up branches everywhere, to push for socialism.

  They are named after the Roman general who fought Hannibal.  Realizing he couldn't beat Hannibal head on, he decided he would just hinder, delay, and sneak attack whenever possible..and just wear Hannibal and his army down.

    They considered capitalism as being their Hannibal !  They were some of the first to invade our educational system.

[Dixie-Dude]

   1) We accepted computerized voting

   2) Too many  people voted stupidly, running on emotion instead of intelligence.
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“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”

― Ronald Reagan

We use computerized voting in Alabama.  We fill out a sheet by blacking in a circle beside the name of the person we want to vote for.  It is then scanned into a computer.  The scanners are then tallied.  Poll workers usually have members of both parties during countings.  We have photo ID, and the ID must match the address they have on file or you can't vote.  Drivers license is used for photo ID.  If you can't drive, you can get a FREE photo ID from the DMV.  All you have to do is show your birth certificate, and proof of your current address, utility bill, rent check receipt with your name on it.  This keeps illegals from voting.  If you live in Alabama or were born in Alabama, you can go to your local health department and obtain a copy of your birth certificate.  ID can be your passport if you have one.  You just have to prove you are an American Citizen.  If you were an immigrant and you became a citizen, you have to have the paperwork to prove you are a citizen.  This all was upheld in court.  20 States require photo ID. 15 require an ID, but not photo, and could be a problem.  15 states don't require an ID at all.  Mostly far left states.  Most non-photo ID states do require a photo ID for obtaining mail in ballots.  2020 was an exception with a lot of illegal mail in ballots.  Without audits on these mail in votes, all it took was a few illegal votes to change the election.  Especially the close ones.  Many people voted twice, once mail in and once at the poles.  They could have used different names.   Nothing was verified.  Recounting didn't work, as illegal votes weren't verified. 

[phalanx]

Don’t forget those Dominion voting machines. Those caused a lot of fraud, they do anywhere they are used.

[Bob Riebe]

One of the few good things about the internet, is it now exposes quickly how much of a slough this country, or the society that controls it really is.
It has been going down hill for decades but at that; I have read a book recently with journalist pictures about how violent the dark side was back when new photographers used big 4x5 sheet film cameras sixty plus years ago.
Nothing much has really changed, except for power of money is now , as it was 100 years ago, again.
  It is just that back then, local problems, including murders, in the boonies or small cities , remained local news, add them all together as the book does and nothing much has changed as far as society goes.

[DDZ]

Here is an article explaining how Zuckersburg's money help steal the election.

https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/28/why-the-wall-street-journal-is-wrong-about-the-2020-election/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=why-the-wall-street-journal-is-wrong-about-the-2020-election&utm_term=2022-01-28

[Ranger99]

. . . Just curious as to your plan when the water and electric/supply train ends?

I have different items here and there
and a plan or two if I survive

[ironglow]

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   Again...quoting Pres Ronald Reagan...  It was President Reagan, who pulled us out of Carter's self-confessed "malaise", and brought back American pride..

   Then people got stupid again, and elected Barack Hussein, who put us into another malaise.  ...But smarting from the pain, we elected President Trump, who pulled us out of that mess, and 'made America great again"..

   Will God yet be patient with us...or will he 'call the game' ?

[Dixie-Dude]

One thing for certain, "we the people" didn't rise up and complain about everything that was going on.  We should have first complained about taking prayer out of schools, about abortion, about gays in the military.  With enough complaints to our senators, representatives, governors, and the president, maybe laws would have been changed, or the Feds kept out of state and local affairs like they are supposed to. 

One thing I learned about 40 years ago, it one letter to a congressman is equal to about 1,000 votes.  One phone call = to about 5,000 votes.  Letters and phone calls overwhelming them on a constant basis, they will listen.  The far left won't, but the moderates will. 

I also read that only 6% of America is far left.  The last remaining moderate democrats realise this.  It it time for the 20% of the right to start raising *** about what is going on and try to change America back.