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Mexican cartels now use IEDs as well as bomb-dropping drones
« on: February 04, 2022, 01:53:55 PM »
By MARK STEVENSON, Associated Press - 4h ago

MEXICO CITY (AP) — In the war raging between drug cartels in western Mexico, gangs have begun using improvised explosive devices (IEDs) on roads to disable army vehicles.

The self-defense movement in the town of Tepalcatepec, in western Michoacan state, said improvised land mines severely damaged an army armored car late last week.

A spokesman for the movement, which is battling the Jalisco cartel, supplied photos showing a disabled army light armored vehicle on a road with damage he said was caused by such a mine.

The spokesman, who refused to reveal his name for fear of reprisals, said the explosion happened last Saturday in the town of Taixtan, near Tepalcatepec, where locals have been battling Jalisco gunmen for months.

The warring gangs already frequently use homemade armored cars and drones modified to drop small bombs. But it would be the first time IEDs have been successfully used by cartels in Mexico.

The Mexican Army did not respond to a request for specific comment on the IEDs. But the Defense Department did say army patrols were attacked in the area Saturday four times with explosives, homemade armored cars and gunfire that wounded 10 soldiers. The department did not specify what type of explosives were involved.

The Milenio television station described the IEDs as PVC pipe bombs buried with a round metal base below and a conical metal cap to direct or concentrate the blast.

Security analyst Juan Ibarrola, who specializes in the military, said “the worrisome thing is the improvisation that they (criminal groups) are doing with engineering, to create weapons, boobytraps, explosives and so on.”

Rather than trying to fight an outright war with the army — which they know they would lose — Ibarrola said that with the IEDs and other devices “more than anything else, what they are trying to do is threaten and take on rival groups.”

It is not clear if the improvised land mines are only being used by one side in the bloody turf battle for control of Michoacan state, which drug traffickers value for its seaport and smuggling routes, as well as the opportunity to extort money from the state's growers of avocados and limes.

In November, residents of the Jalisco-dominated village of Loma Blanca showed Associated Press journalists a small crater, with a round metal plate, where they said the Tepalcatepec forces had detonated a land mine.

While cartel gunmen across Mexico have used hand grenades and rocket-propelled grenades against police and soldiers before, IEDs have been practically unknown in the country's drug wars.

In 2010, a car bomb aimed at federal police officers exploded in the northern border city of Ciudad Juarez, killing three people and wounding nine. A drug cartel suspect used a cell phone to set off the explosives-laden car, which killed a federal police officer and two civilians, and wounded nine people.

In 2015, Jalisco cartel gunmen brought down a Eurocopter transport helicopter with a rocket-propelled grenade, killing eight soldiers and a police officer. While the choppers Jalisco faces now are Blackhawks, there is little doubt the cartel can come up with something punchier.

The Mexican government is rapidly running out of tools to control the expansion of the Jalisco cartel, Mexico’s most militarily powerful drug gang. The army has already pulled out some of its most lethal weapons in its fight against the Jalisco cartel: Helicopter gunships equipped with electric mini-guns, rotating barrel machine guns capable of firing thousands of rounds per minute.

But the inhabitants of Michoacan are also fed up with the army’s strategy of simply separating the Jalisco and the Michoacan-based Viagras gang. The army policy effectively allows the Viagras — best known for kidnapping and extorting money — to set up roadblocks and checkpoints on many of the state's roads. Limes, avocados and cattle heading out, or supplies heading in, must pay a war tax to the Viagras.

The do-nothing strategy appears to be part of President Andrés Manuel L󰥺 Obrador's “hugs, not bullets” policy of avoiding confrontation.

“The difficult thing here is that there hasn't been any resounding effort by the government to confront” the gangs, said Ibarrola. “That's serious, not because there isn't the capacity, the army is there and can do it, but the orders just simply don't come.”

Meanwhile, the cartels have developed bomb-carrying drones, and the most feared warriors are the “droneros,” or drone operators. While initially crude and dangerous to load and operate — and still worrisomely indiscriminate — drone warfare has improved, and it’s not unusual to see metal barn or shed roofs opened like tin cans from the impact of drone explosions.

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Re: Mexican cartels now use IEDs as well as bomb-dropping drones
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2022, 04:58:15 PM »
Cartels have been using military
tactics and equipment for years.
The media has never wanted to
acknowledge it and keep parroting
the tired old line of " they're just
looking for a better life.  . "
They've been in bed with middle
east terrorists for years and years.
Lot of the ordinance and training
comes from the middle east,
not to mention the cartel members
that come from the ranks of the
mexican army itself.
You can buy literally anything
you can imagine
in mexico if you stack the bills
high enough.
ANYTHING
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Re: Mexican cartels now use IEDs as well as bomb-dropping drones
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2022, 03:56:52 AM »
Americans would be living a better life without them. They are clannish, rude, and they hate us anyway.
In this time i Command ,That you take the Secular to Jerusalem .
There you rid the Holy City of the Scourge of Islam , Make the streets run red with the Blood of those who wish to wash Israel and Christianity from the face of the Earth.
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Re: Mexican cartels now use IEDs as well as bomb-dropping drones
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2022, 05:07:01 AM »
Sounds like the Mexican's problem to me.

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Re: Mexican cartels now use IEDs as well as bomb-dropping drones
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2022, 06:37:51 AM »
Sounds like the Mexican's problem to me.

Yep! Until it becomes ours.
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Re: Mexican cartels now use IEDs as well as bomb-dropping drones
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2022, 08:32:14 AM »
Sounds like the Mexican's problem to me.

Yep! Until it becomes ours.

It already has along the border states. Because of Biden’s open borders policy.
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Re: Mexican cartels now use IEDs as well as bomb-dropping drones
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2022, 08:35:35 AM »
Sounds like the Mexican's problem to me.

Yep! Until it becomes ours.

It already has along the border states. Because of Biden’s open borders policy.

Sure has, but it isn't affecting non border residents. Yet!
So they see it as a Mexican problem. That's gonna change.
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Re: Mexican cartels now use IEDs as well as bomb-dropping drones
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2022, 08:59:04 AM »
Sounds like the Mexican's problem to me.

Yep! Until it becomes ours.

It already has along the border states. Because of Biden’s open borders policy.
The further I travel down it already seems like Mexico.

Sure has, but it isn't affecting non border residents. Yet!
So they see it as a Mexican problem. That's gonna change.
In this time i Command ,That you take the Secular to Jerusalem .
There you rid the Holy City of the Scourge of Islam , Make the streets run red with the Blood of those who wish to wash Israel and Christianity from the face of the Earth.
Constantine III

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Re: Mexican cartels now use IEDs as well as bomb-dropping drones
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2022, 12:42:54 PM »
The cartels make roughly 25 million a
week from smuggling border jumpers
into the US per Border Patrol intelligence
estimates
That's not counting the dope, weapons, and
cash that are smuggled each day and
 the other illegal activities such as bringing
in stolen vehicles from the U.S. and changing
VINs and re- titling and reselling back in the US

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Re: Mexican cartels now use IEDs as well as bomb-dropping drones
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2022, 05:09:29 AM »
When they start dropping them over here I expect Texas to respond and Arizona to a lesser extent. California and New Mexico won't be able to see a problem and will do nothing just like they have been doing. Biden will hand the problem off to Ol' Roundheels and we know how that works. She will laugh about it and take another trip to Europe.

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Re: Mexican cartels now use IEDs as well as bomb-dropping drones
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2022, 11:41:57 AM »
Mebbe. We should force their hand and protect our borders? Sh.t or get off the pot.