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One prime reason the church is failing it's people
« on: February 05, 2022, 02:17:37 AM »
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   Many churches have fallen for the humanist credo...that mankind is basically good.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2022/02/popular-belief-empties-churches-william-kilpatrick/

   When a church caves to humanism, they are discarding their mission and denying God.
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)

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Re: One prime reason the church is failing it's people
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2022, 02:40:44 AM »
The churchs' mission is to preach the good news. Not argue incessantly with non believers, or people of different beliefs.

Preachers are preaching "feel good" messages while avoiding The Gospel, which is convicting.
You may all go to hell, I will go to Texas. Davy Crockett

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Re: One prime reason the church is failing it's people
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2022, 02:46:37 AM »
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  4 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears..  (2 Tim 4:1-3)
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Re: One prime reason the church is failing it's people
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2022, 01:25:30 PM »
. . . Preachers are preaching "feel good" messages while avoiding The Gospel, which is convicting.

^ ^ ^ this

And busy hawking trinkets such as vials of
Jordan river water and annointing oil
and prayer cloths and crucifixes made from
wood from the holy land and dirt from
Jerusalem and rocks from Israel and
many other doo dads and trinkets that
I can't immediately recall that are "given
away " when you send your "love gift "
or "seed money "

God doesn't reside in a trinket, and
buying one or pouring a potion on
your head won't get you there

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Re: One prime reason the church is failing it's people
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2022, 02:53:17 AM »
. . . Preachers are preaching "feel good" messages while avoiding The Gospel, which is convicting.

^ ^ ^ this

And busy hawking trinkets such as vials of
Jordan river water and annointing oil
and prayer cloths and crucifixes made from
wood from the holy land and dirt from
Jerusalem and rocks from Israel and
many other doo dads and trinkets that
I can't immediately recall that are "given
away " when you send your "love gift "
or "seed money "

God doesn't reside in a trinket, and
buying one or pouring a potion on
your head won't get you there

     ^^^THAT^^^ happens  ...But it is only among a very small fraction...mostly hucksters.  If the only "church" one experiences, is on TV, he may gather the idea that this is a common thread.
 
   He may not see the everyday pastor, who goes about his church business daily, preparing messages,
   "comforting the afflicted and afflicting the comfortable"  ;).  Most of these not collecting any great wages..and some not collecting any wages at all.
 
    For the many thousands involved in such work..let's not judge by a slick few, whose motive are in doubt.
  ..To be fair, as an honest hunter, I think none of us want to be judged by people who only notice and
 comment upon, the rare "slob hunter' !
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)

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Re: One prime reason the church is failing it's people
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2022, 04:07:03 AM »
Well just me- I'm not using a broad
brush,  but I do see a very large number
( way more than I should) of clergy that
won't touch on hell and eternal damnation
and go forth and sin no more. Instead
of possibly offending any of the church
goers, they'll play along with the perverts
and scumbags that have about taken
over the world, not to mention yacking
about the alleged secrets of the Bible
and so on.
I want to see and hear any honest legitimate
clergy speak out and condemn such
BS that these feel good PC let's-not-insult-
or-alienate-anybody types spew daily.
Just like I want to see and hear leaders of
middle eastern groups and countries condemn
terrorist activities that happen there.
I don't recognize many gray areas
If you don't publicly condemn obvious
wrong, you're condoning it by proxy
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Re: One prime reason the church is failing it's people
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2022, 08:22:51 AM »
Well just me- I'm not using a broad
brush,  but I do see a very large number
( way more than I should) of clergy that
won't touch on hell and eternal damnation
and go forth and sin no more.
     Now, that is another subject..much more widespread, but no less injurious.  There is a small segment of clergy who are deep into "selling trinkets", which is reprehensible in the extreme.  Then there are whole divisions of clergy who refuse to preach the whole truth..even MORE reprehensible.
Instead
of possibly offending any of the church
goers, they'll play along with the perverts
and scumbags that have about taken
over the world, not to mention yacking
about the alleged secrets of the Bible

 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
  21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.  (2 Peter 1:20,21)


    I want to see and hear any honest legitimate
clergy speak out and condemn such
BS that these feel good PC let's-not-insult-
or-alienate-anybody types spew daily. Perhaps you are not looking  right places, some preachers are calling out the false teachers....on a regular basis, but it appears the ones who need to hear it, may not  be listening close enough..
    I won't pretend to suggest anything about the eastern a you speak of below, since that is a "different breed of at" !

 
Just like I want to see and hear leaders of
middle eastern groups and countries condemn
terrorist activities that happen there.
I don't recognize many gray areas
If you don't publicly condemn obvious
wrong, you're condoning it by proxy

   Here are some preachers who are continually calling out false teachers....

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2jpwEoo8aY

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW_p-BAoZ24

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHNS5TIV-5M

   
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)

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Re: One prime reason the church is failing it's people
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2022, 09:04:41 AM »
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   For instancem Dr David Jeremiah...obliterates "cancel culture"...

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kug-AJvsMwg

   Check out Dr David Jeremiah...  He has many excellent messages on Youtube.. You are almost guaranteed to find the Biblical answers you seek

  https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=david+jeremiah+sermons+2021
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)