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Dr. Ron Paul sums up NATO and Ukraine
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It All Comes Back to NATO
By Ron Paul, MD

Ron Paul Institute

March 1, 2022


When the Bush Administration announced in 2008 that Ukraine and Georgia would be eligible for NATO membership, I knew it was a terrible idea. Nearly two decades after the end of both the Warsaw Pact and the Cold War, expanding NATO made no sense. NATO itself made no sense.

Explaining my “no” vote on a bill to endorse the expansion, I said at the time:

NATO is an organization whose purpose ended with the end of its Warsaw Pact adversary… This current round of NATO expansion is a political reward to governments in Georgia and Ukraine that came to power as a result of US-supported revolutions, the so-called Orange Revolution and Rose Revolution.

Providing US military guarantees to Ukraine and Georgia can only further strain our military. This NATO expansion may well involve the US military in conflicts unrelated to our national interest…

Unfortunately, as we have seen this past week, my fears have come true. One does not need to approve of Russia’s military actions to analyze its stated motivation: NATO membership for Ukraine was a red line it was not willing to see crossed. As we find ourselves at risk of a terrible escalation, we should remind ourselves that it didn’t have to happen this way. There was no advantage to the United States to expand and threaten to expand NATO to Russia’s doorstep. There is no way to argue that we are any safer for it.

NATO itself was a huge mistake.

When in 1949 the US Senate initially voted on the NATO treaty, Sen. Roberg Taft – known as “Mr. Republican” – gave an excellent speech on why he voted against creating NATO.

Explaining his “no” vote, Taft said:

… the treaty is a part of a much larger program by which we arm all these nations against Russia… A joint military program has already been made… It thus becomes an offensive and defensive military alliance against Russia. I believe our foreign policy should be aimed primarily at security and peace, and I believe such an alliance is more likely to produce war than peace.

Taft continued:

If we undertake to arm all the nations around Russia…and Russia sees itself ringed about gradually by so-called defensive arms from Norway and Denmark to Turkey and Greece, it may form a different opinion. It may decide that the arming of western Europe, regardless of its present purpose, looks to an attack upon Russia. Its view may be unreasonable, and I think it is. But from the Russian standpoint it may not seem unreasonable. They may well decide that if war is the certain result, that war might better occur now rather than after the arming of Europe is completed…

How right he was.

NATO went off the rails long before 2008, however. The North Atlantic Treaty was signed on April 4, 1949 and by the start of the Korean War just over a year later, NATO was very much involved in the military operation of the war in Asia, not Europe!

NATO’s purpose was stated to “guarantee the safety and freedom of its members by political and military means.” It is a job not well done!

I believe as strongly today as I did back in my 2008 House Floor speech that, “NATO should be disbanded, not expanded.” In the meantime, expansion should be off the table. The risks do not outweigh the benefits!

The Best of Ron Paul, MD

Dr. Ron Paul is a former member of Congress and Distinguished Counselor to the Mises Institute.
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Re: Dr. Ron Paul sums up NATO and Ukraine
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2022, 02:59:29 AM »
Pretty much agree. Bring our troops home. Stay out of this war.
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2022, 03:13:16 AM »
U.S.A. First. Maybe worry about someone else if and when we get our rights and freedoms straight which is simple. Follow constitutional law.

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Re: Dr. Ron Paul sums up NATO and Ukraine
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2022, 11:38:54 AM »
Since the end of WWII America has a history of fighting limited wars against lesser opponents. The fighting ends as soon as a big dog like China or Russia shows interest. This country is “supposed” to have the greatest military in our planets history, at least that is what they tell us when asked about where all the money goes. Yet we are going to once again stand by and watch a whole country of men, women and children get slaughtered.  It was not these people who started this fight, nor are they responsible for the actions of NATO countries, but they are paying the price! This country is led by a bunch of cowards and some are even on this forum. I guess when Putin comes rattling the nuke sword America will roll over and obey.
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2022, 12:21:27 PM »
Since the end of WWII America has a history of fighting limited wars against lesser opponents. The fighting ends as soon as a big dog like China or Russia shows interest. This country is “supposed” to have the greatest military in our planets history, at least that is what they tell us when asked about where all the money goes. Yet we are going to once again stand by and watch a whole country of men, women and children get slaughtered.  It was not these people who started this fight, nor are they responsible for the actions of NATO countries, but they are paying the price! This country is led by a bunch of cowards and some are even on this forum. I guess when Putin comes rattling the nuke sword America will roll over and obey.
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Bye bye James. Do you care as much about our borders? Well. You are gone. So. Good riddance...

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Re: Dr. Ron Paul sums up NATO and Ukraine
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2022, 12:46:15 PM »
Since the end of WWII America has a history of fighting limited wars against lesser opponents. The fighting ends as soon as a big dog like China or Russia shows interest. This country is “supposed” to have the greatest military in our planets history, at least that is what they tell us when asked about where all the money goes. Yet we are going to once again stand by and watch a whole country of men, women and children get slaughtered.  It was not these people who started this fight, nor are they responsible for the actions of NATO countries, but they are paying the price! This country is led by a bunch of cowards and some are even on this forum. I guess when Putin comes rattling the nuke sword America will roll over and obey.
JamesIII gone from this site!

Boy Jamesill, hate to see you go. You've been a member since 2007, are you sure? That's 15 years and 277 posts. A reputation of consistency just abandoned, and cast into the wind.  8)

We're all gonna really miss your 0.044 posts per day. All that wisdom ripped from our midst.  :-\
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