even elon musk says drill.

[Lloyd Smale]

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/elon-musk-calls-for-u-s-increase-in-oil-gas-production-to-combat-russia-despite-negative-effect-on-tesla

[magooch]

I haven't heard anyone comment about the phenomenon of how quickly we went from having a glut of oil to having to get it from Russia after the dumbass in the White House locked things down.  This in no way is to excuse the dumbycratics from their idiocy, but I remember a time back when gas prices were cheap as dirt.  My wife and I were taking a train trip which took us through a valley where oil was a very obvious big deal.  There were oil pumps everywhere you looked.  Only a very small number of them were pumping.    A year, or so after that, we took that route again.  By then the price of gas had gone up almost double and this time every pump in that valley was pumping and there were more being installed

My conclusion at the time was that the price and probably a few other factors dictated the availability of oil.  I believe oil companies to a certain extent regulate the amount of oil they pump on many other things than just Polly ticks.  It just doesn't make sense that we could go from being a net exporter to a massive importer of oil in such a short time when exploration and an oil pipeline construction project are supposedly to blame.  In no way am I saying that the whole oil shortage is contrived, but some of what we're seeing just doesn't add up right.

[Lloyd Smale]

you may be right to an extent. But it doesnt change the fact that under the biden adminstation oil companies were crap on and it cost them BIG money. Personaly id like to see there hands untied and see what happens. All i know is it sure as hell cost me more money to fill up my truck and heat my home since those restrictions were put in place. i sure cant imagine a scenario where that would make prices rise. Will we ever see 2 dollar a gallon gas again? I seriously doubt it. Just like i doubt we will ever see 10 dollar a brick 22s or 20 dollar a brick primers again no matter how many are produced. Only way to make prices drop is if we stop buying (demand) and with oil that is about impossible to happen. We all know it for sure isnt changing with this nut case administration we have now. But one things a given in this. An energy weak country is a weak country period end of game. We absolutely cannot be held hostage by other countrys oil.

[NWBear]

" But it doesnt change the fact that under the biden adminstation oil companies were crap on and it cost them BIG money. "

I would love to see some facts to back this up.  Earnings reports are public, production volumes are published in several journals; please enlighten us with some real facts - other than "I hate Biden".  You can disagree with anyone but you don't need to make up fake news to support it.

[VA Rifleman]

But one things a given in this. An energy weak country is a weak country period end of game. We absolutely cannot be held hostage by other countrys oil.

That’s the truth.

Worry about Musk. He’s become a thorn in the side of the Biden administration.

[NWBear]

A quick check showed most oil companies lost money in 2020, due to the covid pandemic - not President Trump.  In 2021 most are recording RECORD PROFITS, due to demand returning and prices rising for crude oil.  FACTS for those who care.

[Mule 11]

Well. The fact is under Donald Trump I was paying 1.60 a gallon... Country was prospering. Borders were protected. Made more money. And did not have deranged sociopaths errr gender confused individuals and anti Americans put in charge... Grocery store shelves were stocked. Supply chains were moving. The dollar was worth more and not heading into inflation/devaluation. Could carry on for a bit here...Add nauseum...

[Mule 11]

A quick check showed most oil companies lost money in 2020, due to the covid pandemic - not President Trump.  In 2021 most are recording RECORD PROFITS, due to demand returning and prices rising for crude oil.  FACTS for those who care.

They’re all robbing us due to your elected officials. If interested in facts?

[ironglow]

A quick check showed most oil companies lost money in 2020, due to the covid pandemic - not President Trump.  In 2021 most are recording RECORD PROFITS, due to demand returning and prices rising for crude oil.  FACTS for those who care.

  Covid is blamed for the financial losses and financial failure of  many businesses, not just oil operations..!  Everyone from Cafterias, Gyms, hair dressers and manufacturers suffered financial ruin.
 
   Next question..Whose administrations and whose self-cooked "laws", forced the closures of these businesses ?

  Places that did their best to "go on as usual", fared much better than Biden's trained puppies in the blue states.  Places as diverse as Sweden, Florida and South Dakota, who did their best to ignore the draconian strictures all did better than the norm.

  Just a reminder..Biden shut down much of our oil production the very day he assumed office.  Why would he do that, other than a deep animosity toward the US and it's people?

  His excuse seems to be for a cleaner world...so are we to assume Russia and iran will do the drilling, refining and transporting much cleaner than Americans can do it ?

    https://apnews.com/article/why-is-biden-halting-federal-oil-and-gas-sales-b8f03552c2c2fa7ec0dfc5debeb3f882

[Casull]

Well. The fact is under Donald Trump I was paying 1.60 a gallon... Country was prospering. Borders were protected. Made more money. And did not have deranged sociopaths errr gender confused individuals and anti Americans put in charge... Grocery store shelves were stocked. Supply chains were moving. The dollar was worth more and not heading into inflation/devaluation. Could carry on for a bit here...Add nauseum...

We can agree.

[ironglow]

 ..Decisions, decisions.. who to believe...

   I don't know where I got the idea...but somehow, I think Elon Musk has a higher IQ and a better grasp of business and the economy, than does Joe Biden..

[Lloyd Smale]

Dont have to. All i have to do is look at the gas pump to know that its as real as it gets. As to biden. Hes screwed this country up in so many ways it would take posting a book to cover it all. Take your bell bottoms off put down the joint and look at the world around you. Why dont you show us some things that are cheaper today then 2 years ago. I dont hold biden responsible for all of it. Idiots like you that voted for him and are still trying to defend him are the real blame. Kind of like getting thrown in prison, greased up and saying PLEASE GIVE ME MORE!! 

" But it doesnt change the fact that under the biden adminstation oil companies were crap on and it cost them BIG money. "

I would love to see some facts to back this up.  Earnings reports are public, production volumes are published in several journals; please enlighten us with some real facts - other than "I hate Biden".  You can disagree with anyone but you don't need to make up fake news to support it.

[Lloyd Smale]

My 10 year old granddaughter does.

..Decisions, decisions.. who to believe...

   I don't know where I got the idea...but somehow, I think Elon Musk has a higher IQ and a better grasp of business and the economy, than does Joe Biden..

[Lloyd Smale]

Answer me this. Why do you vote for a radical anti gun administation and come to a gun forum and post support for them and even brag on it when you used your vote to try to suppress what most of us are for.  It would about me like me going to lunch with an abortion doctor! Even if i wanted to id sure know i wasnt welcome and not bother even walking in the door. Cant you find a socialist web site to hang out at. Or do you just enjoy stirring up crap

A quick check showed most oil companies lost money in 2020, due to the covid pandemic - not President Trump.  In 2021 most are recording RECORD PROFITS, due to demand returning and prices rising for crude oil.  FACTS for those who care.

[Lloyd Smale]

probably because he doesnt have the money gm and ford have to slide under the table. Bidens lack of support for him was no doubt bought and paid for.

But one things a given in this. An energy weak country is a weak country period end of game. We absolutely cannot be held hostage by other countrys oil.

That’s the truth.

Worry about Musk. He’s become a thorn in the side of the Biden administration.

[Lloyd Smale]

well all but one of us anyway. I think the other one more closely fits your description

deranged sociopaths errr gender confused individuals and anti Americans

Well. The fact is under Donald Trump I was paying 1.60 a gallon... Country was prospering. Borders were protected. Made more money. And did not have deranged sociopaths errr gender confused individuals and anti Americans put in charge... Grocery store shelves were stocked. Supply chains were moving. The dollar was worth more and not heading into inflation/devaluation. Could carry on for a bit here...Add nauseum...

We can agree.

[DDZ]

Its all because of the plan to get rid of fossil fuels.

https://therightscoop.com/watch-bidens-energy-secretary-admits-the-real-reason-why-gas-prices-are-so-high/

[VA Rifleman]

Same goal. Just different way to get there.

Obama 2014. “Under my plan of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket”.

[Lloyd Smale]

they should pass a law that NOBODY  thats president or in the senate or house or on the supreme court should be allowed to have stocks or interest of any kind in any energy market. Be it oil solar wind. But im sure theyd get around it by having others invest there money in there names. But at minimum if there caught they should loose there job imediately and face federal charges. Then they make drug companys test for years before they release drugs so we know there side effects.  With electric cars the manufactures dont have to answer to anyone and can make any claim they want. No supervised by a non biased testing to prove there milage claims. No having to answer what the damage production and disposing of the batterys they use. The dont have to post the true pollution these cars produce being charged with fossil fuel generation. NOTHING. They can claim they have 0 effect on the enviorment and put up a couple charging stations and they can claim there free to drive. They can claim they have a 300 mile range when in fact thats probably a stretch on best case scenarios. If gas powered cars and trucks got to slide on all of that wed have cars and trucks for half the price they are today. I dont understand russias nuke threats either. All biden has to do is tell him hes not allowed to pollute and he has to design a clean bomb. Maybe if they launch some nukes we can send back some icbm's loaded with tulip bulbs. Call them liberal cluster bombs.

[ironglow]

Its all because of the plan to get rid of fossil fuels.

https://therightscoop.com/watch-bidens-energy-secretary-admits-the-real-reason-why-gas-prices-are-so-high/

   Problem is, fossil fuels are not near the problem the left claims they are..  Tthe "green" crap is just that ..CRAP..A political wedge, and they know it full well.

[NWBear]

"Answer me this. Why do you vote for a radical anti gun administation and come to a gun forum and post support for them and even brag on it when you used your vote to try to suppress what most of us are for. "

Answer: I DID NOT vote for J. Biden, I also disagree with a lot of his positions and actions.  However I do like to defend critical thinking and facts (I guess something which is going to be dead for the rest of my years).

It is amazing to me how many folks say the "Biden Administration" shut down oil production when the fact is it is up 20% since he took office (not a result of government action by the way).  I believe a "weak nation" is one that disregards facts in favor of stuff which supports their preconceived notion of what should be the truth.

Finally you will not find me "bragging" about the current administration, but you will find me correcting extreme distortions of fact.   If you are uncomfortable with FACTS, I truely feel sorry for you.  However I support your rights to believe any way you wish.

[DDZ]

Its all because of the plan to get rid of fossil fuels.

https://therightscoop.com/watch-bidens-energy-secretary-admits-the-real-reason-why-gas-prices-are-so-high/

   Problem is, fossil fuels are not near the problem the left claims they are..  Tthe "green" crap is just that ..CRAP..A political wedge, and they know it full well.

Yes, and I believe the major players in the green energy game know that it has nothing to do with saving the environment, but everything to do with the transfer of wealth. 

[DDZ]

The truth

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/03/is_it_intentional_or_simply_ignorance.html

[Lloyd Smale]

you feel sorry for me. ISNT THAT SPECIAL!! It warms my heart. I feel sorry for you too. You voted for biden and cant even admit it because of the shame you feel. Sorry but your not fooling me or anyone else here. About every post you make is anti conservative.

"Answer me this. Why do you vote for a radical anti gun administation and come to a gun forum and post support for them and even brag on it when you used your vote to try to suppress what most of us are for. "

Answer: I DID NOT vote for J. Biden, I also disagree with a lot of his positions and actions.  However I do like to defend critical thinking and facts (I guess something which is going to be dead for the rest of my years).

It is amazing to me how many folks say the "Biden Administration" shut down oil production when the fact is it is up 20% since he took office (not a result of government action by the way).  I believe a "weak nation" is one that disregards facts in favor of stuff which supports their preconceived notion of what should be the truth.

Finally you will not find me "bragging" about the current administration, but you will find me correcting extreme distortions of fact.   If you are uncomfortable with FACTS, I truely feel sorry for you.  However I support your rights to believe any way you wish.

[NWBear]

The truth

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/03/is_it_intentional_or_simply_ignorance.html

From the posted link:
" If the U.S. no longer produces the 11+ million barrels per day that it was producing just a few years ago, "  Clicking on this link takes you to the chart which shows we are at 11.6 million barrels per day

I guess the "American Thinker" doesnt read its own sources...  The Truth baaa baaa baaa

[ironglow]

  I respect NW for trying to maintain 'balance', and I do not assume how he votes..

  However, one thing is undeniable...  The day Biden assumed office, gasoline cost us about $2 per gallon.  That same day with his pen, he cancelled much of our petroleum industry's production!

  All energy costs have raised precipitously since that day..along with virtually all other commodities.

  During the past years, our stocks have plummeted, while prices for almost everything , have risen exponentially.

[Lloyd Smale]

no need to assume anything. Every post he makes is pro liberal.

[Dixie-Dude]

Musk said he was fiscally conservative and socially liberal.  He has donated money to Republican candidates and none to Democrats.  He also said the other day that more nuclear power plants should be built.  He is more pragmatic than either liberal or conservative.  He isn't far left pro green stuff, but he does make electric cars and solar panels.  He also makes rockets and spacecraft reusable.  But he also is smart enough to realize wind and solar and forcing electric cars on everyone is not the answer.  He realizes we need nuclear power to go along with it.  He is now in the process of making synthetic natural gas from water and carbon dioxide.  Why?  Because his rockets burn it and when he goes to Mars he plans to set up equipment to make the gas on Mars using Martian water and Martian carbon dioxide air.  If it works it may be cheaper than drilling for natural gas and it can be made anywhere.  Oh, Mars has a lot of frozen water in the northern hemisphere.  NASA's satellites found a large body using ground penetrating radar that is larger than lake Superior.  The poles also have frozen water.  Mars is cold, only gets to 32 degrees at the equator.  It is further from the sun, but is the closest to earth planet in our solar system.  It has a 24-1/2 hour day, so it will be easier for humans to live there.  The moon has little to no water and no air. 

[phalanx]

(His excuse seems to be for a cleaner world...so are we to assume Russia and iran will do the drilling, refining and transporting much cleaner than Americans can do it ?)

True that, it’s the same atmosphere all over the world. China ,Russia and many others don't care about the New green deal.

[Mule 11]

Musk said he was fiscally conservative and socially liberal.  He has donated money to Republican candidates and none to Democrats.  He also said the other day that more nuclear power plants should be built.  He is more pragmatic than either liberal or conservative.  He isn't far left pro green stuff, but he does make electric cars and solar panels.  He also makes rockets and spacecraft reusable.  But he also is smart enough to realize wind and solar and forcing electric cars on everyone is not the answer.  He realizes we need nuclear power to go along with it.  He is now in the process of making synthetic natural gas from water and carbon dioxide.  Why?  Because his rockets burn it and when he goes to Mars he plans to set up equipment to make the gas on Mars using Martian water and Martian carbon dioxide air.  If it works it may be cheaper than drilling for natural gas and it can be made anywhere.  Oh, Mars has a lot of frozen water in the northern hemisphere.  NASA's satellites found a large body using ground penetrating radar that is larger than lake Superior.  The poles also have frozen water.  Mars is cold, only gets to 32 degrees at the equator.  It is further from the sun, but is the closest to earth planet in our solar system.  It has a 24-1/2 hour day, so it will be easier for humans to live there.  The moon has little to no water and no air.

Interesting thought. Water has hydrogen and oxygen and both will burn. Also have energy.