Let's follow the money _ _ the Zelenskyy money

[TM7]

Opposition Ukrainian leader says Zelenskyy should be in jail for ripping off the Ukrainian people.

 The last few years of the bloody war on Donbass has been run from Miami and Marco Island…and guess who was there with Zelensky….


 Ukraine’s ‘Midnight Cowboy’ president exposed for being a billionaire Israeli oligarch…
More than a billion dollars are held in Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s accounts abroad. This was announced by the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of the Opposition Platform – Party For Life Ilya Kiva.

According to him, Zelensky has accumulated $1.2 billion in the Dresdner Bank Lateinamerika in Costa Rica during the two and a half years of his presidency. This money was transferred to the president by Ukrainian oligarchs, such as Rinat Akhmetov, Viktor Pinchuk, Igor Kolomoisky. As Kiva noted, replenishment is done regularly, in tranches of $12 million to $35 million.

And they go through banks like First Union Bank, Deutsche Bank, Banque Nationale de Paris. According to the deputy, the movement of such funds would be impossible without the control of the authorities of Germany and France.


 But just accounts, as Kiva pointed out, the matter was not limited. Zelensky managed to buy a villa in Miami for $34 million, as well as several sets of jewelry for $5.6 million.


 “In addition to the President of Ukraine at the Dresdner Bank, the head of the office of the President of Ukraine Yermak has accounts for a modest $56 million, Svyatlana Tikhanovskaya for $4.5 million, most of which she transferred in December 2020 to HSBC bank in London office. Also accounts Arseniy Yatsenyuk has one in the Miami branch of the Dresdner bank,” Kiva said in her post on the Telegram channel.


 “Every president and his team, after his tenure, walked away as dollar billionaires, and Zelensky, for all his inferiority, was no exception, just in his case, no one will let him just walk away,” Kiva said, and added that the current head of Ukraine is waiting for a prison.

https://rg.ru/2022/02/23/u-zelenskogo-nashli-milliard-dollarov-i-villu-v-majami.html

But it gets worse....it's coming out about the Hunter-Joe crime connection in Ukraine. Alot worse.
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[ironglow]

TM;
   Trying to trash a man, as the Demonrats tried with Trump, the SCOTUS appointees and Gen Flynn, doesn't really become you!  You are above what the Dems do !

   Almost anybody in the public view can be "muck-raked"..some "facts" true.... some false.

  Do we remember judge Cavanaugh, or Justice Clarence Thomas?

[ironglow]

IG....
It's the Ukrainian opposition political party exposing Zelenskyy,  I'm just reporting.
Of course, it's not unlike Zelenskyy to 'expose' himself, if you know what I mean.
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Biden connection is coming out, and if you're American you will want his arrest, too.
Later on that...
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   No, he won't likely expose himself..but then what politician or celebrity ever did !

[Bob Riebe]

TM;
   Trying to trash a man, as the Demonrats tried with Trump, the SCOTUS appointees and Gen Flynn, doesn't really become you!  You are above what the Dems do !

But Iron Glow, my good man, do you not know, he is one of those JEWS, and THEY are what is wrong with this world!

[billy_56081]

Sorry IG..
You missed my tongue in cheek .
He's a porn comedian  crisis actor turned 'exposed, a president of a corrupt country according to his many fellow  countrymen who consider him a puppet crook. Many want him prosecuted and him and the globalist  gone. So that is what his political opposition said in.the article. Just another view point.

Simple question.....in your opinion what would be the best solution to the Ukrainian  problem for all three parties.?

Btw, Don't know what  BR's problem is, maybe a persecution complex or something, so gives off the wall deflection.

What is a porn comedian?

[VA Rifleman]

Opposition party. Former President Poroshenko remains in Ukraine fighting Russians. Last I heard from him, he was lamenting having only two machine guns to hand out. Not a lot of daylight between the former and current President.

TM
Why go after BR? His contributions have been to the point, informative and non confrontational.

Another question. Why are you deleting and editing your past posts? Guess they haven’t aged well.

[Dee]

Sorry IG..
You missed my tongue in cheek .
He's a porn comedian  crisis actor turned 'exposed, a president of a corrupt country according to his many fellow  countrymen who consider him a puppet crook. Many want him prosecuted and him and the globalist  gone. So that is what his political opposition said in.the article. Just another view point.

Simple question.....in your opinion what would be the best solution to the Ukrainian  problem for all three parties.?

Btw, Don't know what  BR's problem is, maybe a persecution complex or something, so gives off the wall deflection.

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How do you feel about Putin ordering the unprovoked killing of innocent men, women, and children, in Ukraine with indiscriminate missle strikes?

[Lloyd Smale]

Or a president that puts on a uniform and a vest and picks up a gun and actually goes outside instead of one that hides in his basement and is afraid to do whats right because he will lose the only voting block he has left. That would be the FAR LEFT. His only real fear is going down in history as the president with the lowest approval rate ever and a vice president that if its even possible is dumber then him. Wed be much better off with him as our president. Hell wed be better off with oprah!! At least she isnt brain dead

[Lloyd Smale]

The news on EVERY channel shows homes and schools and public places bombed to rubble. Do you think they broadcast over a loud speaker to tell all the civilians and children they had 10 minutes to get out before they blew them to pieces. An 8 year old is smart enough to know russia has killed innocent civilians.

 If your claiming there only killing soldiers so its ok how about thinking about this. Ukraine did not invade russia and force civilians to take up arms to protect there country. So in fact probably 90 percent of the people russia is fighting are innocent civilians trying to protect there homes there familys and there home land not soldiers.

Wonder what youd think if russia started bombing your neighborhood. YOUR HOME YOUR COUNTRY If your neighbor tried to defend his daughter from being raped would you then call him a member of the military?? But then most who give lip service like you didnt serve there country in the first place.

Russia TIMID!! Putin doesnt care who he kills to get what he wants and thats just plain and simple POWER! Only a communist would try to defend ANYTHING putin has done in Ukraine. He is a power hungry nut case and i guess i can understand you a bit. Even the far left is smart enough to know the truth over there. But you? Just more conspiracy theory's.

[ironglow]

TM;

 you are quite free with expletives you apply to Zelensky, while you seem to be defending Putin's actions.

  You refer to Zelensky as a "porn comedian", "comedian crisis actor" and "midnight cowboy"...while it seems you have no such terms reserved for Putin..  surely you could find some terms for Vlad.

   In any case, here's some help....

   https://nypost.com/2022/03/01/how-putin-became-worlds-richest-man-lies-affairs-greed/
    I suggest all that tension is just that the other politician/oligharchs of the world, including our own, are envious now that he is "king on the hill" among elite globalists.. and 'people robbers'.

   BTW: I would be condemning the Ukraine just as stridently..had they attacked Russia..

[Mule 11]

Now. After all the lies main stream news has spewed in the past. I’m suppose to believe what they report? Comical...

[Bob Riebe]

Well this thread probably will not last long.

[Bob Smith]

I think we should have a whip round for a ticket for TM7 to send him to Kyiv and see who shoots him. It will solve the problem about who is killing civilians, russia or Ukraine.

[Mule 11]

I think we should have a whip round for a ticket for TM7 to send him to Kyiv and see who shoots him. It will solve the problem about who is killing civilians, russia or Ukraine.

Eat shat bubby

[Mule 11]

I think we should have a whip round for a ticket for TM7 to send him to Kyiv and see who shoots him. It will solve the problem about who is killing civilians, russia or Ukraine.

You are here to be a govt bot...

[Graybeard]

OK I've cleaned this thread up a bit. Now let's see if you guys can follow the rules on it or if I have to close this one also.

[Lloyd Smale]

theres something id gladly contribute toward. Lets charter a plane. We can fill it with all the nut cases like the global warming conspiracy theorist's and socialists too. 

I think we should have a whip round for a ticket for TM7 to send him to Kyiv and see who shoots him. It will solve the problem about who is killing civilians, russia or Ukraine.

[ironglow]

Sorry IG..
You missed my tongue in cheek .
He's a porn comedian  crisis actor turned 'exposed, a president of a corrupt country according to his many fellow  countrymen who consider him a puppet crook. Many want him prosecuted and him and the globalist  gone. So that is what his political opposition said in.the article. Just another view point.

  TM;  What I was getting at, was that we can call a man names and accusations which their enemies have hung upon them, but that only degrades, not adding anything to the discussion.

Here for instance, are various accusations aimed at Putin by his detractors..but are these jermain to the discussion?  Do they add anything to elucidate the reader?

  https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/18/putin-criminal-incompetent-president-enemy-of-his-own-people-russia

[Mule 11]

Funny how a truck load of “conspiracy theorists” claims have been proven correct. Even though many still do not know it...

[Dee]

Bill is "cleaning up" posts concerning arguments over a country that gave Hunter Biden millions, while "Ole Joe" bragged about holding back United States government aid until the Ukraine government fired a Ukrainian prosecutor who was looking into the Hunter Biden/Ukrainian corruption. And the Ukraine government DID fire the prosecutor.

SO! While I have said repeatedly that the Ukrainian government is corrupt,  as is the the Russian government, killing innocent Ukrainian women, children, and the elderly is not justified, and to deny that its not happening is ludicrous.

Some here are claiming MY SOURCES KNOW THE TRUTH. I'll say "BS " to that. Know one here KNOWS  anything more than what their chosen "sources" opinions are.

This is what I "know": innocent men, women, and children, ARE being killed by a Russian dictator seeking to annex  the Ukraine. THAT IS OBVIOUS.

I also "know" that the Ukraine has no strategic, or economic value for the United States,  and we should NOT get involved.

I also "know " that while you're all arguing about who's right concerning the Ukraine,  the United States is sending billions of dollars worth of weaponry to the Ukraine,  and IS DOING NUTHIN for the citizens of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona,  or California concerning OUR BORDERS.

I also "know" that our own country is in crisis, with "wide open borders" no help from the United States government in my home state of Texas, or 3 other border states, and epic, crazy inflation.

I also "know" that everybody arguing with each other here about the Ukraine, had better get their head on straight  and get as passionate about their own country  as they are a country the size of Texas, on the other side of the planet.

Law Enforcement IS  fighting a war in the street of towns  such as Laredo, Del Rio, and other cities on the Texas border.

Drug Cartels ARE controlling both sides of the border in certain areas, and it's getting worse. God only knows the number of terrorists that are just walking into our country, WHILE "YOUR GOVERNMENT" has you arguing with each other about Ukraine.

Instead arguing about who has the most accurate sources concerning two corrupt governments on the other side of the world, you'd better get educated, and concerned about your own children,  and grandchildren.

I also "know" diesel prices in California is over $6.30 a gallon over $4.00 a gall in Texas. . FOLLOW THE MONEY  IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY.

I also "know" that while ex United States military personnel are volunteering to fight for Ukraine,  they are ignoring their own countrys' needs on its own border. Why not volunteer to help their own country? Not enough killing yet.

I also "know" that the Ukrainian people have the rest of Europe to "flee to ". All you guys have is Mexico, and Trudeaus' Canada.

If I were in the Texas State Senate I'd vote secession. While you guys are arguing about the Ukraine, Texas, while fighting to save itself its refineries are refusing Russian oil.

[Lloyd Smale]

All good valid points. Ill only add that we do have skin in this. If we stand back and do nothing we embolden putin and make it more likely that he keeps going and gains more and more power and at one point if hes winning China will jump in to get there agenda. Also if we let him walk through Ukraine and keep going hitting a nato country we put ourselves into a possible ww3 scenario with the absolute worse president and administration we could ever put there to deal with it and a good many of them are socialists themselves. Nobody wins that war and certainly not us with biden at the controls.

Russia will launch and the hippies here wont fire in time because theyd be afraid it would cause pollution and (censored word) global warming!!! Take a look at it. They dont even have enough common sense to open up our own energy producers so we dont have to rely on foreign oil and instead are bending over and willing to take it in the ass to let people as bad as putin if not worse provide us oil. They dont even have the sense to realize that oil from russia and iran still pollutes as much as our own if not more. It would be about like going to war with a vw bus full of hippies from the 60s with peace signs dangling on there necks.

 i just saw a survey that said if this was happening here over 30 percent of this country would run vs standing there ground and fighting. Thats if Russia was even killing there familys!!!!! Personaly i think we should cut and run right now. Quits spending our military budget and tell Zelenskyy that putin offered him an out. Give him the small piece of land he wants and write into there constitution that they cant join nato. Pretty small price to pay to save your innocent people and stop this before it escalates. Would putin honor it? I have no clue but its worth a shot and if he doesnt he made it plain as the nose on your face that ww3 is going to happen. Then we wise up and quit wasting our money on global warming and feeding those criminals on the border. tell then they come here they get NOTHING. Not even a bottle of water. Tell mexico that ALL aid to them and south america ends if they dont put troops on the border themselves to stop it. Then we need to seriously overhaul our welfare system because that wasted money would probably make us again the most powerful country in the world. But its about a dream. Because as long as we have those idiot liberals in office we will get weaker every day.

Sad thing is if ALL of this doesnt happen i cant see English being the predominant language in this country 50 years from now. Russia and china wont even have to lift a finger. Just sit back and watch us self destruct. Biden has put us here in less then 2 years. Can you imagine the damage he will do in the next two. Even if Zelensky is a pervert id rather have someone like him with a set in washington that a brain dead old man being manipulated by a bunch of hippies that took to much acid in the 70s. But is this our problem? You bet your ass it is. That is just as obvious as the fact putin is killing innocent women and children.   

Bill is "cleaning up" posts concerning arguments over a country that gave Hunter Biden millions, while "Ole Joe" bragged about holding back United States government aid until the Ukraine government fired a Ukrainian prosecutor who was looking into the Hunter Biden/Ukrainian corruption. And the Ukraine government DID fire the prosecutor.

SO! While I have said repeatedly that the Ukrainian government is corrupt,  as is the the Russian government, killing innocent Ukrainian women, children, and the elderly is not justified, and to deny that its not happening is ludicrous.

Some here are claiming MY SOURCES KNOW THE TRUTH. I'll say "BS " to that. Know one here KNOWS  anything more than what their chosen "sources" opinions are.

This is what I "know": innocent men, women, and children, ARE being killed by a Russian dictator seeking to annex  the Ukraine. THAT IS OBVIOUS.

I also "know" that the Ukraine has no strategic, or economic value for the United States,  and we should NOT get involved.

I also "know " that while you're all arguing about who's right concerning the Ukraine,  the United States is sending billions of dollars worth of weaponry to the Ukraine,  and IS DOING NUTHIN for the citizens of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona,  or California concerning OUR BORDERS.

I also "know" that our own country is in crisis, with "wide open borders" no help from the United States government in my home state of Texas, or 3 other border states, and epic, crazy inflation.

I also "know" that everybody arguing with each other here about the Ukraine, had better get their head on straight  and get as passionate about their own country  as they are a country the size of Texas, on the other side of the planet.

Law Enforcement IS  fighting a war in the street of towns  such as Laredo, Del Rio, and other cities on the Texas border.

Drug Cartels ARE controlling both sides of the border in certain areas, and it's getting worse. God only knows the number of terrorists that are just walking into our country, WHILE "YOUR GOVERNMENT" has you arguing with each other about Ukraine.

Instead arguing about who has the most accurate sources concerning two corrupt governments on the other side of the world, you'd better get educated, and concerned about your own children,  and grandchildren.

I also "know" diesel prices in California is over $6.30 a gallon over $4.00 a gall in Texas. . FOLLOW THE MONEY  IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY.

I also "know" that while ex United States military personnel are volunteering to fight for Ukraine,  they are ignoring their own countrys' needs on its own border. Why not volunteer to help their own country? Not enough killing yet.

I also "know" that the Ukrainian people have the rest of Europe to "flee to ". All you guys have is Mexico, and Trudeaus' Canada.

If I were in the Texas State Senate I'd vote secession. While you guys are arguing about the Ukraine, Texas, while fighting to save itself its refineries are refusing Russian oil.

[ironglow]

From Dee;

   " SO! While I have said repeatedly that the Ukrainian government is corrupt,  as is the the Russian government, killing innocent Ukrainian women, children, and the elderly is not justified, and to deny that its not happening is ludicrous."

   I tend to agree with Dee here, only adding that I think there are some corrupt politicians in ALL governments.  There are just varying degrees as to number and kind, in every  government.

   That is where the left goes very wrong..  We as believers know that no man is perfect..all are flawed.
  Yet the leftists put trheir faith in government!
    When government goes crooked..and all eventually do...the left doesn't know where to turn..

  On the other hand, we are not too surprised, knowing all mankind is in a fallen state....the reason why we are not inclined to place so much trust in governments.

[orerancher]

  When government goes crooked..and all eventually do...the left doesn't know where to turn

It Went Crooked BECAUSE of the Left....

[Dee]

  When government goes crooked..and all eventually do...the left doesn't know where to turn

It Went Crooked BECAUSE of the Left....

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Americans need to wake up and figure out who the real enemy is.
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Americans need to wake up and figure out that they need to quit worrying about everybody elses country and start worrying about their own.

[orerancher]

  When government goes crooked..and all eventually do...the left doesn't know where to turn

It Went Crooked BECAUSE of the Left....

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Americans need to wake up and figure out who the real enemy is.
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Americans need to wake up and figure out that they need to quit worrying about everybody elses country and start worrying about their own.

The Sheep are Only gonna Worry about What the Main Stream Media Shows Them, and Tells Them to Worry About....
If the Media would Show Whats Goin On and Tell the TRUTH about what's Goin On at Our Border...Ya just might Wake a Few up....

[Dee]

  When government goes crooked..and all eventually do...the left doesn't know where to turn

It Went Crooked BECAUSE of the Left....

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Americans need to wake up and figure out who the real enemy is.
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Americans need to wake up and figure out that they need to quit worrying about everybody elses country and start worrying about their own.

The Sheep are Only gonna Worry about What the Main Stream Media Shows Them, and Tells Them to Worry About....
If the Media would Show Whats Goin On and Tell the TRUTH about what's Goin On at Our Border...Ya just might Wake a Few up....

I'm doubtful. This website is a demonstration of cattle following the feed truck.