Ukraine invasion, an historical parallel..

[ironglow]

  I see a real similarity between the Ukraine of 2022 and the United States of1776..

  1) Both were formerly dominated by a major empire

  2) Both were rudely "used" by those empires.

  3) Both gained liberation.One by revolution, the other by the failure of the oppressing empire.

  4)Problem being ..with Ukraine, the old, oppressive empire wants a redux..

  5) Like the fledgling US, instead of bowing to invader, Ukraine decided to fight.

  6) For the US, many foreign military experts came to help. e.g. Gen Lafayette, Thaddeus Kociusco, John Paul Jones,  Baron Von Steuben, etc.

  7) The infant US, had to fight a guerilla war to start, losing continually..until Washington had his Trenton and Morristown moments, followed soon by Saratoga.

       However...unless God intervenes, things do not look very positive for the bravepeople of the Ukraine.  Itbhas been said that where military strategy is concerned.."amateurs talk "tactics", while professionals discuss "logistics".

  All the tactics in the world are of little effect, unless logistics are in place.  No army, no matter how right, brave or determined can long endure without food, wepons, ammunition or other needs.

  With Russia's current 'scorched-earth' and non-combatants-be-damned policy..logistics will soon be failing for the freedom fighters.

   However, the people of the Ukraine need God's help, even if it comes in the form of a sympathetic power.. just as France helped so greatly at Yorktown, in Virginia.

     

[Dee]

I don't see much in parallel.
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LOL, me either. I guess you could say that the United States invading Vietnam,  or Iraq could be an interesting parallel since neither country had done anything to the United States,  and both countries successfully fought off the United States oppression and won back their independence.

[Mule 11]

I don't see much in parallel.
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Getting tired of pointing out the obvious...

[oldandslow]

And our exit strategy was to cut and run both times. Wars instigated and run by politicians don't seem to go well for us.

[ironglow]

  As a well known black preacher in Tennessee says...

  "I can preach it to you, but I can't understand it for you!"

[Dee]

As a well known black preacher in Tennessee says...

       "I can preach it to you, but I can't understand it for you!"

Preach is all you ever do. You oughta try listening every now and then.

Proverbs Chapter 18 Verse 13. One who gives an answer before he hears, it is foolishness and shame to him. NAS

[ironglow]

Matter of fact, thanks for reminding me..I had a great time preaching just yesterday..
 
  I preached on the blood, how it was introduced as of extreme importance (Ex 12:21-24), pointing out the significance of the "picture" of the crucifixion on the lintel and door posts..and how the blood came from the passover lamb..and who it represented.

  Then moved to (Heb10:8-12) explaining the real importance of the blood for forgiveness of sins and redemption.
  Jesus' blood cleanses us from ALL sin (1 John 1:7)

   And the clincher.. (Heb 9:22b)  ... "Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission"..

  Two people came to salvation...born again..

[Dee]

Matter of fact, thanks for reminding me..I had a great time preaching just yesterday..
 
  I preached on the blood, how it was introduced as of extreme importance (Ex 12:21-24), pointing out the significance of the "picture" of the crucifixion on the lintel and door posts..and how the blood came from the passover lamb..and who it represented.

  Then moved to (Heb10:8-12) explaining the real importance of the blood for forgiveness of sins and redemption.
  Jesus' blood cleanses us from ALL sin (1 John 1:7)

   And the clincher.. (Heb 9:22b)  ... "Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission"..

  Two people came to salvation...born again..

Well toot toot! You've blown your own horn. Again. 

[billy_56081]

IG, I'm thinking that you need to get on a plane and go fight, just leave me out of it.

[ironglow]

Matter of fact, thanks for reminding me..I had a great time preaching just yesterday..
 
  I preached on the blood, how it was introduced as of extreme importance (Ex 12:21-24), pointing out the significance of the "picture" of the crucifixion on the lintel and door posts..and how the blood came from the passover lamb..and who it represented.

  Then moved to (Heb10:8-12) explaining the real importance of the blood for forgiveness of sins and redemption.
  Jesus' blood cleanses us from ALL sin (1 John 1:7)

   And the clincher.. (Heb 9:22b)  ... "Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission"..

  Two people came to salvation...born again..

Well toot toot! You've blown your own horn. Again. 

  Sorry you are so negative Dee, but you could be doing the same thing! ..Nothing holding you back is there?

  BYTW:  I was tooting God's horn, just as He has asked us to do..

  "Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature".. (Mark 16:15)
  ..And I am so pleased that he allowed me to do it !  ..And you can start anytime you have the urge to do so.

[Dixie-Dude]

I posted this on another thread.  Don't know if anyone read it. 


I don't think some of you guys understand the seriousness of the Ukrainian invasion.  Russia put their nukes on high alert.  Putin is getting desperate.  He is hiring Syrian mercenaries to fight because his troops don't really want to fight.  He has begun bombing hospitals, apartments, and indiscriminate shelling of civilians.  Why?  Because he was not able to just drive in with his army and "liberate" Ukraine from NAZIS.  Ukraine has only documented 900 NAZI fighters that hate Russians and communism.  900.  We probably have more skinheads, KKK, and NAZI's in the US, but they don't control the country like Putin said they did in Ukraine.  Putin, everyday is pushing his limits.  He sent a cruze missle that hit 12 miles from the Polish border.  NATO countries near Russia's border are begging for a no fly zone.  If we have a no fly zone, does that mean NATO planes will get in a battle with Russian planes.  Will Putin resort to chemical or biological warfare if he can't take the country soon.  One general said he would run out of ammo and food in the next 10 days for his troops.  Captured Russians had food that was out of date in 2015.  Putin is a mad man.  He might push the nuclear button.  This is why we should worry and keep up with what is going on.  Like I said, BBC has more boots on the ground and are doing a very good job with pictures and what is going on over there.

Yes, I have read and heard it over and over about the Hispanic invasion from the south.  NOTHING is going to be done about it until we get another president.  Not enough young people who can take off work to go guard the border, because young conservatives have to work for a living.

Putin has to be stopped, hopefully by a coup within Russia to oust him from office.  I just hope Ukraine can hold on long enough for Russia to stop this madness.  Russia has proven to be a 3rd world country with nukes.  Our lack of strong leadership now has Iran shooting missles at our consulate in a city in Iraq violating Iraq's air space.  China is chomping at the bits to take Taiwan.  Where is our leadership?

[Mule 11]

I read it. Too many points of contention for me...