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« on: March 21, 2022, 02:17:33 AM »
  Reports now, of Ukrainian refugees arriving on our southern border.  Also reports of Russian nationals arriving as refugees arriving on our southern border as well.

   Russian cosmonauts arrive on international space station, clad in Ukraine national colors.  Who knows? It would have to be a far fetched "coincidence".
   https://petapixel.com/2022/03/18/russian-cosmonauts-arrive-at-iss-in-colors-of-ukrainian-flag/
 
 ...Especially since the cosmonauts normally work in space, in plain white garments.
  Still, it would be more difficult politically, to jail 3 cosmonauts for 15 years each, than a single, small TV interne.
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2022, 03:22:28 AM »
Right now about 1/10 of Ukrainians have fled to the west.  Before this is all over probably 20% of Ukrainians will have fled Ukraine.  These are the ones with a little money and vehicles.  They are probably also the skilled workers.  They could easily fit into any western nation to work without getting handouts.  Unlike the unskilled workers coming across our southern border.  It is bad when a lot of Russians know the truth.  They are the one's who invaded Ukraine.  Not the other way around.  Also, it really doesn't matter if Ukraine had corruption or even NAZI's in their country.  These two reasons are why they were never allowed into NATO or the EU.  This new president of Ukraine was elected to get rid of corruption, thus the 80+% vote for him, even if he was an actor. 

Putin's invasion is what it is, an invasion of an independent nation.  A nation not at war with anyone, or starting problems with any neighbors, who gave up their nukes for security promises from the west.  Putin though he could march in and people would cheer his troops and throw flowers, etc.  They responded with resistance.  They were under the Soviet thumb for 70 years, and before that the Tzars.  They have enjoyed freedom for over 30 years now, and didn't want to go back under Russia's thumb, plain and simple.  So they are fighting, many have sent their women and children west to stay and fight.  Russia was not ready for resistance, and this is embarrassing to Putin.  So, they are relying on artillery and rocket to bomb civilian areas to try to break their will.  So far it is not working.  Even in the Russian speaking city of Mariupol, they are resisting.  Ukraine was becoming westernized, and Russia didn't like it. 

As far as Russia being a Christian nation.  Putin is all talk to get votes, he was KGB, which means he is an athiest.  Putin gave more freedom of religion to get the support of most Russians, not because he really cared. 
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2022, 03:59:25 AM »
Generally, Slavs have proven to be worthwhile, hard working immigrants.  Biden wouldn't like them though, since they are not the type to go for a nanny-state, as they are proving in Ukraine at present.
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2022, 09:45:06 AM »
"Being kept hidden from the American people, is the factual reality that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is a Russian, not Ukrainian"

Actually he was born a citizen of the USSR, which Ukraine was a part of in 1978.  The town he was born in is Kryvyy Rih, Ukraine, U.S.S.R. .  So not quite "factual reality"

Kind of like being "born in Israel" before 1948 - then you would be an Ottoman and/or Palestinian.

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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2022, 12:03:24 PM »
Right now about 1/10 of Ukrainians have fled to the west.  Before this is all over probably 20% of Ukrainians will have fled Ukraine.  These are the ones with a little money and vehicles.  They are probably also the skilled workers.  They could easily fit into any western nation to work without getting handouts.  Unlike the unskilled workers coming across our southern border.  It is bad when a lot of Russians know the truth.  They are the one's who invaded Ukraine.  Not the other way around.  Also, it really doesn't matter if Ukraine had corruption or even NAZI's in their country.  These two reasons are why they were never allowed into NATO or the EU.  This new president of Ukraine was elected to get rid of corruption, thus the 80+% vote for him, even if he was an actor. 

Putin's invasion is what it is, an invasion of an independent nation.  A nation not at war with anyone, or starting problems with any neighbors, who gave up their nukes for security promises from the west.  Putin though he could march in and people would cheer his troops and throw flowers, etc.  They responded with resistance.  They were under the Soviet thumb for 70 years, and before that the Tzars.  They have enjoyed freedom for over 30 years now, and didn't want to go back under Russia's thumb, plain and simple.  So they are fighting, many have sent their women and children west to stay and fight.  Russia was not ready for resistance, and this is embarrassing to Putin.  So, they are relying on artillery and rocket to bomb civilian areas to try to break their will.  So far it is not working.  Even in the Russian speaking city of Mariupol, they are resisting.  Ukraine was becoming westernized, and Russia didn't like it. 

As far as Russia being a Christian nation.  Putin is all talk to get votes, he was KGB, which means he is an athiest.  Putin gave more freedom of religion to get the support of most Russians, not because he really cared.

  Good and accurate post DD..but you have a tough row to hoe, trying to get it across here..

  The whole thing boils down to..the former Soviet satellite nations are now independent and sovereign, and the KGB trained and indoctrinated boss man, just can't hack that "freedom" idea.

   The obvious tuth..  Putin had no legal or logical excuse to invade his neighbor with his killing machine..and the killing would stop if he simply admitted his mistake, an dpulled out again !
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2022, 12:19:48 PM »
I agree. You two new world order and one world government hoe’s have a tough crowd to row...

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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2022, 12:35:08 PM »
From TM;

  "Being kept hidden from the American people, is the factual reality that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is a Russian, not Ukrainian, born of Jewish parents, and whose father, Semyon Ivanovych Zelenskyy, served as an infantryman reaching the rank of Colonel in the Red Army,in the 57th Guards Motor Rifle Division during World War I1."

   Not in the least surprising..  Remember my comparison to the fledgling US of America. A vast majority
 Of our founding fathers were born in the empire that tried to keep us from freedom.
 
 Old King George III was like Putin however..he just couldn't take it !  At least George had a somewhat  technically legal reason to pursue keeping freedom from us.
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2022, 12:39:38 PM »
From TM;

  "Being kept hidden from the American people, is the factual reality that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is a Russian, not Ukrainian, born of Jewish parents, and whose father, Semyon Ivanovych Zelenskyy, served as an infantryman reaching the rank of Colonel in the Red Army,in the 57th Guards Motor Rifle Division during World War I1."

   Not in the least surprising..  Remember my comparison to the fledgling US of America. A vast majority
 Of our founding fathers were born in the empire that tried to keep us from freedom.
 
 Old King George III was like Putin however..he just couldn't take it !  At least George had a somewhat  technically legal reason to pursue keeping freedom from us.
Of course our founding fathers were born under the queens rule. Your analogy sucks as usual...

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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2022, 12:41:29 PM »
Ya keep harpin about porno zalesky and saying you don’t want us in this conflict. Make up your mind...