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Offline Dee

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Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« on: March 24, 2022, 01:00:58 AM »
About a war 6,000 miles away, and 2 leaders know one here has ever, or will ever meet. About issues we can do nuthin about, and personally know little about.

The war in Ukraine has turned into THE TOPIC of GBO, and attacks on each other about this European war, and differences of opinion, are daily.

Some defend Putin, some Zelinsky, some want to stay out of the war, some want to send troops in.

All while we watch our own country fall apart from within, and on our southern border, with a government every bit as corrupt, overbearing, and deceitful as any on the planet.

No wonder we're all so negative. But like cattle. TOTALLY, AND EFFECTIVELY, "DISTRACTED".
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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2022, 01:10:33 AM »
Dee: Well said.

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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2022, 01:11:50 AM »
..And the willing fake news outlets are pleased to concentrate on that, because it takes attention from what a screwup Biden & Co are making of our southern border, the huge "green" spending and intentional crippling of our economy..

  "Pay no attention to the man behind the green curtain"...
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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2022, 02:00:16 AM »
Or any of them behind the curtain.

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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2022, 03:18:01 AM »
If ever there was a issue to divide the right, this is it. Not just here at GBO. It’s all over.

Pretty much stopped posting. Don’t want to argue with folks I’ve grown to like. Russian propaganda is not to my liking and somewhat poor form.

No matter. But if close to a shooting war with the Russki’s I won’t be the one cheering on Putin.
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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2022, 03:22:06 AM »
If ever there was a issue to divide the right, this is it. Not just here at GBO. It’s all over.

Pretty much stopped posting. Don’t want to argue with folks I’ve grown to like. Russian propaganda is not to my liking and somewhat poor form.

No matter. But if close to a shooting war with the Russki’s I won’t be the one cheering on Putin.

Yep!
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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2022, 09:59:06 AM »
You know the screw up with the "green new deal" is timing.  The left wants solar and wind power nationwide as well as electric cars, ALL within 10 years.  Physically ain't going to happen.  Just manufacturing enough windmills and solar panels with take 30-40 years.  Electric cars have come a long way.  HOWEVER, the range has to go up, and the charging times and cost have to come down.  This usually don't happen for 30 years on almost ALL new technology.  It took around 30 years from the first automobiles in the late 1880's and early 1890s for cars to come down in price (Henry Ford's Model T) to widespread use.  Airplane transportation took 30 years, and not widespread for 50 years.  The computer chip was first made in 1958.  Computers didn't get widespread until the 1980's.  The telephone in 1876.  Not widespread until the 1920's and not really widespread until after WWII. 

Solar panels have been around for 50 or more years, but just recently have costs begun to come down.  I read the other day that a company has invented a coating that can change UV light to visible light and increase a solar panels output by 50%.  It has to start being mass produced. 

The problem with solar and wind is storage.  Large batteries are expensive.  More so than the windmills and solar panels.  More windmills and solar panels have to be installed than needed in order to make excess power for low wind and nighttime use.  Also, most wind is in the plains states or offshore.  Most Americans live east of the Mississippi.  Transportation of power is a problem.  Solar panels are great in the southwest and south, but not at night or cloudy days.  What is the Midwest and Northeast to do.  The Northeast has to build windmills offshore, which they are now starting to do, but it is still going to be 2050 or later before they max out the space to build. 

If you want to get off coal and gas, you have to add nuclear in the mix.  Most lefties don't want to do this. 

You can also make synthetic gas and diesel using algae growth in greenhouses.  We could make all our gasoline from Algae for nationwide use in greenhouses that could cover an area the size of Rhode Island.  Algae is considered "carbon neutral" as algae takes CO2 out of the air to grow, and after you make fuel, it puts it back by burning.  It however, costs around $5 a gallon to make before added taxes.  See the problem.  Exxon built a $250 million dollar algae greenhouse to experiment on this, but it costs around $5 a gallon to make. 

Then there is geothermal.  It can be done with oil drilling equipment.  You have to drill very deep to get to rock that is near the liquid magma in the core of the earth.  You send down water, which boils and rises as steam to turn a turbine.  They say it would take thousands of years to cool the core 1 degree even if all the power in the world was made this way. 

Solar and wind seem to be the most popular, but it is not always consistant and needs alternative power. 

Some want to stop oil drilling entirely as well as coal digging.  Well, we need plastics, synthetic rubber, and medicines as well as lubricating oil for machinery.  Even windmills have to have a lubricating oil change once a year. 

Oh, and one of the reasons Saudi Arabia wants to use the Chinese Yuan instead of the American dollar for currency is China is trading them solar panels for oil.  They plan to switch most of their power over the next few years to solar, as they know their oil will eventually run out.  Same with other Arabs.  Nuclear is always a problem for them as the west is afraid they might turn nuclear fuel into bombs.  So, they have plenty of desert to put solar panels in. 

Bill Clinton made a huge mistake making China a "most favored trading nation" with no tariffs on their goods in 1998.  China exploded with factories mostly leaving the US.  So I don't think any American company makes solar panels except Tesla in the US.  Who make's most of them, China. 

Just ranting about the energy solutions.  The left doesn't want to compromise on anything.  So we are stuck with high gas prices and expensive electric cars and rolling blackouts and brownouts waiting for all the windmills and solar panels to be installed. 

The left created the giant sucking sound that took half our factories overseas.

The left created the health care crisis by allowing these companies, which provided health care for their workers and familes, overseas. 

The left created the high gas prices by limiting drilling for oil on US soil, and for not buying Canadian oil by stopping pipeline construction. 

The left created a permanent poor class by giving out welfare and food stamp money for multiple generations.

The left created the crime in big cities by not allowing people to defend themselves. 

The left perpetuates problems in race relations.  The left pushes abnormal sexual behavior as normal, creating problems with STD's and wasting health care money on combating them as well as hormonal treatments for abnormal sexual behavior. 

The left perpetuates the border crisis by withholding money approved for a border wall, or a left wing president withholding the money.  Stacks of steel and fencing are rusting at the border from approved wall building. 

It is not all a left right issue, sometimes as with energy, the solution is to do it all energy wise so we can continue to have cheap energy while we transition to alternative energies over realistic time frames. 

One reason meat prices are high is 60% of corn produced in the US goes to making ethynol to mix in with gasoline.  Otherwise we would feed this corn to cows, chickens, and hogs to produce cheaper meat.  Another is the feds have allowed so many mergers of meat packing companies that we only have four companies processing and packing all our meat.  Farmers and ranchers are still making about the same on sales of their animals, but the packing and transportation of meat has increased dramatically.  Hmm.  For example, Hormel bought out Dinty Moore.  Both major nationwide brands but only one owner now. 

Off my soap box. 
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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2022, 11:45:54 AM »
Might have something to do with zero good news for over a year now, and the bad news is compounding.
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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2022, 10:21:34 AM »
The only good thing coming out of this war in Ukraine is, It has cured us from Covid. At Least on main stream media. Seldom ever hear it mentioned.
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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2022, 11:12:20 AM »
The only good thing coming out of this war in Ukraine is, It has cured us from Covid. At Least on main stream media. Seldom ever hear it mentioned.


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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2022, 12:21:40 PM »
The only good thing coming out of this war in Ukraine is, It has cured us from Covid. At Least on main stream media. Seldom ever hear it mentioned.


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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2022, 04:52:53 AM »
From Dixie-Dude:
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One reason meat prices are high is 60% of corn produced in the US goes to making ethynol to mix in with gasoline.  Otherwise we would feed this corn to cows, chickens, and hogs to produce cheaper meat.

According to USDA the percentage is 40%. Some other sources claim 20%. Okay lets say corn is to no longer used to mix with gas. What will happen? Yes, most likely the cost of corn would fall for awhile. After that farmers would switch to more profitable crops, corn production slips below demand until prices come up again.
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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2022, 05:34:29 AM »
I have to side with Guzzy on this. Nearly 40% was what I found for corn production being used for ethanol. I also found the acres planted in corn have increased from a little over 60 million in 1983 to around 90 million in 2010. Farmers raise what they can sell for the most money depending on what area they are in. The reason that prices have increased for beef and just about everything is because slo jo and company have turned the dollar into monopoly money.
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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2022, 06:11:28 AM »
Some of the by product from ethanol make up animal feed. DDGs dried distillers grain are heavily used to feed livestock.
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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2022, 06:10:05 AM »
We could produce more Sour Mash Moonshine! Keep those corn farmers going.
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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2022, 06:23:33 AM »
We could produce more Sour Mash Moonshine! Keep those corn farmers going.

I was thinking the same thing lol.
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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2022, 07:41:27 AM »
I subscribe to Progressive Farmer and they are saying this year wheat is the big money crop this year.

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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2022, 12:04:34 AM »
I prefer bourbon so it would be years before i reaped the benifits.  ;)
We could produce more Sour Mash Moonshine! Keep those corn farmers going.
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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2022, 08:51:25 AM »
I prefer bourbon so it would be years before i reaped the benifits.  ;)
We could produce more Sour Mash Moonshine! Keep those corn farmers going.


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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2022, 03:42:43 AM »
Either way, ethanol lowers your gas mileage.  Pure gas gets better mileage.  Farmers should grow food and any excess should be bought and stored by the Feds for bad years and to keep prices up enough for the farmers to make a little money and to keep meat prices down to reasonable levels. 
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Re: Fighting Amongst Ourselves?
« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2022, 02:51:30 PM »
I have a feeling sour mash whisky will lower your mileage as well!
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