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Re: Ukraine recaptures Kyiv region
« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2022, 03:20:55 AM »
Va Rifleman.,

Yes, I found the above and it translates well. It is a plan to de-Nazify Ukraine, to change the zeitgeist.   

The poison even leaches to America, even this very forum where there is a handful of neo-Nazi sympathizers; easy to identify by their genetic hatred of anything Russian, believe any propaganda, and ever ready and willing to launch into Kristalnach type diatribes and personal attacks _ _ a trademark of Nazi dialectics, always to dodge constructive discussion.


The RIA article describes genocide. Thats Plan A for Ukraine and it’s people.

Opposing genocide in Ukraine does not make one a Nazi.

In this thread and others, we find an attempt to define GBO posters (presumably myself) as Nazi sympathizers. This does not lead to constructive discussions.
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Re: Ukraine recaptures Kyiv region
« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2022, 03:26:18 AM »
Va Rifleman.,

Yes, I found the above and it translates well. It is a plan to de-Nazify Ukraine, to change the zeitgeist.   

The poison even leaches to America, even this very forum where there is a handful of neo-Nazi sympathizers; easy to identify by their genetic hatred of anything Russian, believe any propaganda, and ever ready and willing to launch into Kristalnach type diatribes and personal attacks _ _ a trademark of Nazi dialectics, always to dodge constructive discussion.


The RIA article describes genocide. Thats Plan A for Ukraine and it’s people.

Opposing genocide in Ukraine does not make one a Nazi.

In this thread and others, we find an attempt to define GBO posters (presumably myself) as Nazi sympathizers. This does not lead to constructive discussions.

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Re: Ukraine recaptures Kyiv region
« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2022, 03:46:17 AM »
NAZI's and Communists are two sides of the same coin.  Both are socialist and Statists.  The State over everything else.  NAZI's allowed capitalism but made the capitalist owners of factories make what they wanted first.  Communists want government control or ownership over all property.  Both are evil.  Both restrict freedom. 

I read where the Heinkel aircraft company made passenger planes in the 1930's.  Twin engine, but only held 10-20 passengers.  Hitler wanted Heinkel to make them into bombers (mid-1930's before the war started).  Mr. Heinkel said no, he was against war and WWI was enough for him.  Mr. Heinkel died about a month or two later (said it was a heart attack).  The new owners made Hitler's bombers.  Hmm, sound familiar?  Putin had some of his political enemies killed. 

NAZI's (German version) hated Slavic people and thought they were inferior to Germanic peoples (Germans, Nortics, French, English).  Thus hating Communists, who were mostly loyal to the Soviet version.  Vice versa on Communists.  Communists hated NAZI's for allowing private ownership to continue even though the government strictly controlled what the made (war materials). 
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« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2022, 05:07:37 AM »

Hardly a genocide plan but more like a Marshall Plan, if you read it.

I did read it. Charlie don’t surf and that’s no Marshall Plan.
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Re: Ukraine recaptures Kyiv region
« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2022, 10:02:20 AM »

Hardly a genocide plan but more like a Marshall Plan, if you read it.

I did read it. Charlie don’t surf and that’s no Marshall Plan.
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So VA R,,,if you were in charge of pacifying and normalizing a hostile country dominated by hardcore fascist or rabid muslims or whomever, what would be your plan and overarching strategy?
For comparison look at the Morgenthau Plan if you want to see what real genocide and culture erasing plans look like.~~~

*** Now it looks more confirmed:
NOW more CONFIRMED: U.S Lt General Roger L. Cloutier (and others) was captured by Russia while trying to flee Mariupol after giving military direction to Ukrainian and mercenary forces.

Reports are vaporized as soon as they come in. No wonder MSM ran the Boucha story over and over. The general's hdqut denies.
Well, this would be a game changer as far as Russia is concerned. Let's see if MSM runs the story or a denial story.
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Can't tell which side is more FOS, but it can easily be proven with a live news brief by us, by them would be a little harder since it is against the Geneva Convention to parade them around, though not sure Russia is all that concerned with that.
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« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2022, 10:26:59 PM »
Dont you know? Russia is doing a favor for the world killing women and children.  :o

Hardly a genocide plan but more like a Marshall Plan, if you read it.

I did read it. Charlie don’t surf and that’s no Marshall Plan.
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« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2022, 01:50:10 AM »
 TM;
    Problem here..and our point of disagreement is the post from RIA (does that stand for.."Russian Information Agency"?)

  I am surprised that you would use such a Russian publication for "confirmation". when the world knows it was the Russians who developed propaganda to the level of a fine art...and invented and developed the art of disinformation singlehandedly.
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« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2022, 03:49:02 AM »
IG....the RIA link is not my link.
It's a link from VA Rifleman, who got it from an anti-Russian German writer (Sergej Lumzelly) trying to prove Russia wants to genocide Ukraine, but I didn't get that once I read his link.

Anyway, when you think about Putin and Zelenskyy want the same thing for Ukraine:

Putin: a free independent Ukraine without Nazi terrorist and without nukes, WMD or bioweapons.

Zelenskyy: a 'free independent' Ukraine obliged and hosting NATO and EuroUnion subservient with nukes and Nazies.

See, same thing...!?




TM;
    Problem here..and our point of disagreement is the post from RIA (does that stand for.."Russian Information Agency"?)

  I am surprised that you would use such a Russian publication for "confirmation". when the world knows it was the Russians who developed propaganda to the level of a fine art...and invented and developed the art of disinformation singlehandedly.

Putin just wants to liberate Ukraine. Waaaaaaa!
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« Reply #38 on: April 07, 2022, 06:26:17 AM »
hmmm, wonder why he feels its ok for him to have terrorists wmd biowepons and nukes but not ukraine?? Why he feels its his duty to make them HIS and not free to choose themselves?? Is he gromming them for a peaceful summer home for his children???? If he truely wanted peace a good start would be to pull out of ukraine and destroy all his nukes. Now that would be a true example to follow. Much more effective then women and children laying in street shot in the head or with there heads cut off :o Fact is there has been NO leader in modern time that mimics the exact same agenda hitler and his nazi party did then putin.
IG....the RIA link is not my link.
It's a link from VA Rifleman, who got it from an anti-Russian German writer (Sergej Lumzelly) trying to prove Russia wants to genocide Ukraine, but I didn't get that once I read his link.

Anyway, when you think about Putin and Zelenskyy want the same thing for Ukraine:

Putin: a free independent Ukraine without Nazi terrorist and without nukes, WMD or bioweapons.

Zelenskyy: a 'free independent' Ukraine obliged and hosting NATO and EuroUnion subservient with nukes and Nazies.

See, same thing...!?




TM;
    Problem here..and our point of disagreement is the post from RIA (does that stand for.."Russian Information Agency"?)

  I am surprised that you would use such a Russian publication for "confirmation". when the world knows it was the Russians who developed propaganda to the level of a fine art...and invented and developed the art of disinformation singlehandedly.
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Re: Ukraine recaptures Kyiv region
« Reply #39 on: April 07, 2022, 06:42:45 AM »
Mickey Mouse...that was tongue in cheek. Get a step ladder.

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« Reply #40 on: April 07, 2022, 07:17:16 AM »
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Re: Ukraine recaptures Kyiv region
« Reply #41 on: April 07, 2022, 11:58:28 PM »
good post
Va Rifleman.,

Yes, I found the above and it translates well. It is a plan to de-Nazify Ukraine, to change the zeitgeist.   

The poison even leaches to America, even this very forum where there is a handful of neo-Nazi sympathizers; easy to identify by their genetic hatred of anything Russian, believe any propaganda, and ever ready and willing to launch into Kristalnach type diatribes and personal attacks _ _ a trademark of Nazi dialectics, always to dodge constructive discussion.


The RIA article describes genocide. Thats Plan A for Ukraine and it’s people.

Opposing genocide in Ukraine does not make one a Nazi.

In this thread and others, we find an attempt to define GBO posters (presumably myself) as Nazi sympathizers. This does not lead to constructive discussions.
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Re: Ukraine recaptures Kyiv region
« Reply #42 on: April 07, 2022, 11:59:39 PM »
no opposing opinions wanted. Doesnt that sound familar
Too bad Mouse man.
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Re: Ukraine recaptures Kyiv region
« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2022, 09:45:44 AM »
was it confirmed about Cloutier and other high ranking NATO officers captured? Nothing reporter here…

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« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2022, 12:24:00 PM »
NO, false report.
Probably comes from one of the asisnine conspiracy web sites, such as one that reports Clinton's wife was tried and executed along with a bunch of other Democrats.

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« Reply #45 on: April 08, 2022, 12:33:24 PM »
If the Russki’s had Gen Cloutier, he’d be in front of more cameras then Gary Powers.   
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Re: Ukraine recaptures Kyiv region
« Reply #46 on: April 08, 2022, 07:54:40 PM »
no opposing opinions wanted. Doesnt that sound familar
Too bad Mouse man.
Ain't  no cure for what you got...
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Trying to have a discussion with IG, and along comes Mickey Mouse to poison the well. Nope, no cure for what you got. Like an infectious virus, too.
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Re: Ukraine recaptures Kyiv region
« Reply #47 on: April 09, 2022, 12:05:48 PM »
So has TM7 withdrawn his CONFIRMED ?

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« Reply #48 on: April 09, 2022, 12:10:21 PM »
So has TM7 withdrawn his CONFIRMED ?
Too bad your dad did not withdraw, whomever that limey is :)...

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« Reply #49 on: April 09, 2022, 01:05:06 PM »
If the Russki’s had Gen Cloutier, he’d be in front of more cameras then Gary Powers.
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Nope, not necessarily.  Today's Russia plays a different game than cold war Russia.
If this General and others were captured  he could be held as a secret bargaining  chip.
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If you know about it ain't much of a secret, and now you've spilled the beans on Russias' whole secret plan  by telling everyone on GBO.

Now the whole world is gonna be in on the secret.  8)
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« Reply #50 on: April 09, 2022, 10:51:33 PM »
or your army of nut case conspiracy theorists ::)
Not to worry your little head....and no secret. And of course our government and media would never lie to us.....so we got that going for us.


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If the Russki’s had Gen Cloutier, he’d be in front of more cameras then Gary Powers.
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Nope, not necessarily.  Today's Russia plays a different game than cold war Russia.
If this General and others were captured  he could be held as a secret bargaining  chip.
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If you know about it ain't much of a secret, and now you've spilled the beans on Russias' whole secret plan  by telling everyone on GBO.

Now the whole world is gonna be in on the secret.  8)
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« Reply #51 on: April 10, 2022, 04:00:27 AM »
Not to worry your little head....and no secret. And of course our government and media would never lie to us.....so we got that going for us.


And besides >>>
MightDee Mouse is on the way to save the day...
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If the Russki’s had Gen Cloutier, he’d be in front of more cameras then Gary Powers.
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Nope, not necessarily.  Today's Russia plays a different game than cold war Russia.
If this General and others were captured  he could be held as a secret bargaining  chip.
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If you know about it ain't much of a secret, and now you've spilled the beans on Russias' whole secret plan  by telling everyone on GBO.

Now the whole world is gonna be in on the secret.  8)

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« Reply #52 on: April 10, 2022, 07:18:58 AM »
Now I understand what why everyone dislikes  Mule with his unwanted interruptions and his tedious schoolboy insults. But none of that disguises the fact that TM has not yet explained if the NATO officer is captured or not, despite him CONFIRMING it for us, in capital letters. True or not true Tm?

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« Reply #53 on: April 10, 2022, 08:00:08 AM »
Now I understand what why everyone dislikes  Mule with his unwanted interruptions and his tedious schoolboy insults. But none of that disguises the fact that TM has not yet explained if the NATO officer is captured or not, despite him CONFIRMING it for us, in capital letters. True or not true Tm?

Everyone aye? :) BTW, what have you contributed here?
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« Reply #54 on: April 10, 2022, 08:51:13 AM »
I believe VA_hunter said it best. If the general were captured it would be "world news". He isn't captured is just more "conspiracy news" from the king of conspiracy here on GBO. Where truth doesn't really matter, or fit.


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« Reply #55 on: April 10, 2022, 01:07:13 PM »
Apparently you guys know where this general is otherwise your pompousness would be less elated. What a bunch of turds in my opinion... You can prove one point out of ten and you think you have something?

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« Reply #56 on: April 10, 2022, 01:09:28 PM »
If I’m wrong, well than I’m wrong. So what? You guys suck wholesale...

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« Reply #57 on: April 10, 2022, 11:30:00 PM »
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Lloyd.... duh!..I  would think Putin and Russians don't want WMD, bioweapons, nukes on their border for the same reason we wouldn't.....for the same reasons we didn’t want Iracq, Syria,  Iran, and North Korea or any country getting WMD except  us, especially unfriendly countries or countries with essential resources.
So why tm7 do you stand up for putin. He wants nukes on the borders of every country that isnt in his hip pocket. I dont see us putting nukes on his borders. But if russia has hundreds how can it be unfair for the ukraine to have a couple too. THis isnt about wmd's its about a land grab. Russia wants the Ukrainian land to profit off of it and to bolster your heros ego. He doesnt care how man ukraine or russian people he has to kill to get it. Hitler reincarnated. Only differnce is i think hitler actually thought he was doing it for germany and his people. Putin does it for his OWN profit.
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« Reply #58 on: April 10, 2022, 11:35:07 PM »
by the way you got awful quite on this "general thing". Must be some obscure off the wall conspiracy web site you can quote again. Heck the cool thing for you is those sites dont need proof. Just make crap up to stir the pot and see what reaction they get from you tin foil hate wearing idiots. Heck you could even start your own and then you could allways be right. At least you wouldnt get laughed at like you are here.
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« Reply #59 on: April 11, 2022, 01:37:02 AM »
"I believe VA_hunter said it best. If the general were captured it would be "world news". He isn't captured is just more "conspiracy news" from the king of conspiracy here on GBO. Where truth doesn't really matter, or fit."


https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4053383/posts

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^^^^^^ From Dee, King of Kool-aide....

I guess all they have to do to dispell the Russian claims, is dispense with the tweets and roll out the General for a telaversion interview.  Of course, he'll be asked what the he!! he was doing in Ukraine.
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You-hoo, Lloyd, you're making no sense at all. Just spewing hate and nonsense. You'll like a character in one of my favorite movies, Idiotocracy. Perhaps time for you to have cognitive checkup.
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The link I posted is as reliable as yours. Russia hasn't posted any proof they have this general.
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