Ghost Guns

[mcbammer]

https://www.al.com/news/2022/04/biden-expected-to-release-rule-on-ghost-guns-in-days.html

[gene_225]

Preaching to the choir here, but years ago many firearms (especially inexpensive ones) came without serial numbers.

[BUGEYE]

I watched a documentary about the Philippines making 1911 clones using hacksaws and files which were then smuggled here to be polished and fitted with innards and made into some beautiful pistols.
Their talent was amazing.

[Ranger99]

Boo hoo
The libs will always come up
with some kind of alleged shady
something to boo hoo about.
Most every crime involving a
firearm in this area are all with
the same kind of gun-
a stolen gun,  most always
in posession of a felon that's
not supposed to have a gun
anyway.  Do they ever prosecute
that charge? Hardly ever
Do the law breakers ever serve
an appropriate sentence for
illegal possession of stolen guns
and for their theft? Hardly ever

Durn ghost guns! ! !

[mcbammer]

  There's no such critter as ghost guns , Just another attempt to make a criminal out of  a legal gun owner .

[Lloyd Smale]

just another law that only applys to white people. That said i didnt see anything in it about taking them away or making the illegal. All i saw was the future production 90 percent lowers had to be serial numbered. I built an ar15 but wouldnt bother with another. The 90 percent lower cost more then a complete one and the complete one is metal and the 90 percent one is plastic. So i payed more and wasted about 2 hours completing it to have a lower quality product. Its just more political grandstanding by sleepy joe and the democrats. They now they can claim they inacted gun control measures and for the most part didnt do a thing. They knew if they started talking confiscation that theyd loose even more votes. They knew that non serialized guns are rarely used in crimes anyway. So they pick something that really doesnt matter and something very few gun owners are effected by and claim a major victory. GRANDSTANDING. Nothing more. Hes just trying to save face with the left after F ing up everything hes done since he was in office.

[Ranger99]

About like the other false narratives.
I can remember the glock emergency
when all these hijackers would be
boarding planes with "undetectable
plastic guns " 
How many planes have been hijacked
in the last few decades since glocks and
" undetectable plastic gun" have been
in circulation and use  ?

[ironglow]

Preaching to the choir here, but years ago many firearms (especially inexpensive ones) came without serial numbers.

  Before 1968, serial numbers were not mandatory, and we had far less crimes done with guns...DUH !

  Ghost guns, my foot !  How many of those drive-by shootings are done with so-called "ghost guns"?

   Those drive-by shootings atre done with STOLEN guns..  Restart stop-&-frisk..and start jailing the gang bangers in the big cities..where all that killing is going on !

 

[Ranger99]

Yeah, the younger folks are amazed
when I tell them about how you used
to get a gun delivered right to your
door by the postal service without
any signature or forms as long as
you had the dough. They're amazed
that people didn't go nuts and go on
killing sprees like they do today when
firearms are more restricted than
they ever have been since America
was a colony

[ironglow]

  Many a gun has been delivered from either Sears & Roebuck or Montgomery Ward..

  How many guns were sold with Ted Williams' name on them?  Failing that, you could go to The Western Auto and pick up a gun under the "Revelation" brand.

  First gun I bought for myself was bought by money earned baling hay.  I stopped by the local hardware and bought a Winchester single shot .22..

  I believe I was 15 at the time, put my money down and walked out with the rifle.  It didn't have a sling attached, and I couldn't afford one anyway, so i just hand carried it..nobody got excited.

     I had to walk 5 miles to our farm..but that beautiful new rifle  didn't get heavy in the least !

[BUGEYE]

  Many a gun has been delivered from either Sears & Roebuck or Montgomery Ward..

  How many guns were sold with Ted Williams' name on them?  Failing that, you could go to The Western Auto and pick up a gun under the "Revelation" brand.

  First gun I bought for myself was bought by money earned baling hay.  I stopped by the local hardware and bought a Winchester single shot .22..

  I believe I was 15 at the time, put my money down and walked out with the rifle.  It didn't have a sling attached, and I couldn't afford one anyway, so i just hand carried it..nobody got excited.

     I had to walk 5 miles to our farm..but that beautiful new rifle  didn't get heavy in the least !

I know the feeling.
Out in the country nobody noticed me and my rifle or shotgun.
We moved to town when I was 12, and, nobody there paid any attention to me walking through the middle of town with a rifle over my shoulder and sometimes a revolver on my hip.
Times sure has changed.

[gene_225]

  Many a gun has been delivered from either Sears & Roebuck or Montgomery Ward..

  How many guns were sold with Ted Williams' name on them?  Failing that, you could go to The Western Auto and pick up a gun under the "Revelation" brand.

  First gun I bought for myself was bought by money earned baling hay.  I stopped by the local hardware and bought a Winchester single shot .22..

  I believe I was 15 at the time, put my money down and walked out with the rifle.  It didn't have a sling attached, and I couldn't afford one anyway, so i just hand carried it..nobody got excited.

     I had to walk 5 miles to our farm..but that beautiful new rifle  didn't get heavy in the least !

I know the feeling.
Out in the country nobody noticed me and my rifle or shotgun.
We moved to town when I was 12, and, nobody there paid any attention to me walking through the middle of town with a rifle over my shoulder and sometimes a revolver on my hip.
Times sure has changed.

Times sure have changed. When I was a kid I loaded the 7.7 Jap my uncle rebarreled to .308 into the basket of my bike and took it to Vego Miller to get a Miller Trigger Attachment and a scope installed. Then I header out of town (Omaha) to shoot it. Some years later when I was a new father I walked across down town Omaha with a pump Marlin (action open) to get my car from the repair shop. No problems. I'm sure it would be a problem today.

[Ranger99]

Yeah,  even small kids with poptart
"guns" get in bad trouble

[ironglow]

When I was in high school, I lived about 5 miles east of town, my hunting buddy lived on the west side of the town (about 3500 population at the time).

    At one time or another either he or I may walk or ride a bike to the other's house to do some shooting, never a problem.  ..But in those days we were dealing with civilized folks..

[gene_225]

Preaching to the choir here, but years ago many firearms (especially inexpensive ones) came without serial numbers.

  Before 1968, serial numbers were not mandatory, and we had far less crimes done with guns...DUH !

  Ghost guns, my foot !  How many of those drive-by shootings are done with so-called "ghost guns"?

   Those drive-by shootings atre done with STOLEN guns..  Restart stop-&-frisk..and start jailing the gang bangers in the big cities..where all that killing is going on !

 

Agree that most are stolen guns. The real problem, in my opinion, is that gun violations by criminals are throw away charges that can be and are often dropped in exchange for admitting guilt to some other crime. Thus, DAs and cops don't consider them real crimes unless it is an honest citizen that they can't find anything else to charge them with, then it becomes a major crime/issue.

[BUGEYE]

  Restart stop-&-frisk.

 

As a firm believer in the 4th amendment, I think it's okay for a cop to pat you down if you are acting suspicious, but he has no right to go into your pockets unless he has probable cause to believe that a crime is afoot. (and he'd better be right)
That's the law in most states except maybe NY, IL, MA, and CA.