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Stop them in the Ukraine..
« on: April 30, 2022, 02:16:47 AM »
"Stop them in the Ukraine, or we will have to stop them in Poland."
    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61237519

  That's what eastern European nations are saying..especially NATO member nations.

   Such ego driven megalomaniacs do not stop on their own..they must BE stopped.
   
   Alexander, Caesar, Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin and Mao..all driven as if insane.

  ..Now we have another name to add to the lengthy list !
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2022, 03:01:01 AM »
Sounds like the, ahem ‘news” has changed. I thought he was quagmired...
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2022, 07:52:50 AM »
(censored word) wack job
Your right IG...,
These break away people in the Donbass republics should be terrorized and holocausted by US supported and legitimized neo-Nazies.
That will teach them Russkies to mess with us and the Globalist NWO.
Aaah sure, right....🤯
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2022, 07:57:24 AM »
Sadly Putin may be as living in a brutal la-la land as it is starting to look , but even in his wack-job state of mind he relaize Poland is a world apart from the Ukraine.
They have battle tested soldiers and techniques from the Afghanistan War ; they would make the Ukraine resistance look like Boy Scouts.

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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2022, 01:45:37 AM »
Stop them in Mexico!


https://nypost.com/2021/05/10/video-shows-illegal-immigrants-streaming-across-rio-grande/

Yeah I wonder who the blame will be placed on when some of the terrorists that are crossing our southern border blow some buildings up, and kill a bunch of people.  I doubt then the focus will still be Russia, Russia, Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine.
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2022, 01:59:04 AM »
Stop them in Mexico!


https://nypost.com/2021/05/10/video-shows-illegal-immigrants-streaming-across-rio-grande/

Yeah I wonder who the blame will be placed on when some of the terrorists that are crossing our southern border blow some buildings up, and kill a bunch of people.  I doubt then the focus will still be Russia, Russia, Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine.

  When that happens, which it likely will..the blame should be on Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, AOC and the rest of the Commie/Democrats...but it won't be..
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2022, 03:04:17 AM »
“If it will save just one life”
Baby’s not included...

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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2022, 03:48:38 AM »
  Just because a couple guys are having a shoot out in the street, doesn't necessarily mean that one of them is a "good guy".
  May very well be 2 drug pushers, fighting over "turf" !
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2022, 06:41:12 AM »

Oh-oh..! UP Ministry of Truth is 'triggered' to wall off any commentary not approved by the Ministry...this time blasphemously.

I think IG gets I was speaking tongue-in-cheek, however. I guess the USA is destined to become like Ukr.
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(censored word) wack job
Your right IG...,
These break away people in the Donbass republics should be terrorized and holocausted by US supported and legitimized neo-Nazies.
That will teach them Russkies to mess with us and the Globalist NWO.
Aaah sure, right....🤯
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More like Afghanistan I think.
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2022, 11:46:41 PM »
but your still here??? ;)

Oh-oh..! UP Ministry of Truth is 'triggered' to wall off any commentary not approved by the Ministry...this time blasphemously.

I think IG gets I was speaking tongue-in-cheek, however. I guess the USA is destined to become like Ukr.
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(censored word) wack job
Your right IG...,
These break away people in the Donbass republics should be terrorized and holocausted by US supported and legitimized neo-Nazies.
That will teach them Russkies to mess with us and the Globalist NWO.
Aaah sure, right....🤯
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2022, 12:16:23 AM »
Yes TM;
   No misunderstanding..I got the hyperbole.  :D     ...   But I still stick doggedly maintain that Putin's military should not be there...

  When this invasion is over...Putin should be repaying Ukrainians for damages.  Sadly, there is no way to   restore the murdered thousands to life.
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2022, 05:21:52 AM »
Putin has cancer so God may end this quicker than any man can.

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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2022, 07:48:56 AM »
Putin has cancer so God may end this quicker than any man can.

Yeah, a crazy ass dying man. Everything will be fine.  ;D
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2022, 12:55:44 AM »
IG...
If you want to stop them in Ukraine,
then you have to stop them in Washington, too.
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   ..Sure wish I could..but in recent years, we we seem have too many Dummkopf's outside the oval office, and across the country.

  Then there are the CCP votes to deal with.. hope the election sites are covered this time.
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2022, 03:47:27 AM »
IG...
If you want to stop them in Ukraine,
then you have to stop them in Washington, too.
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Difficult logic. To stop the Russians from attacking Ukraine, stop supporting the Ukrainians who are resisting the Russians.
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2022, 03:48:45 AM »
  I am almost always with Tucker, but I cannot fathom exctly what he is trying to say here;
 
  Tucker Carlson:

"So that's not their goal, saving Ukraine, saving human lives.  No, that's not their goal.  Instead, the war in Ukraine is designed to cause regime change in Moscow.  They want to topple the Russian government.  That would be payback for the 2016 election.(failure of Russia gate)"


  How in the world could ANYONE "design" a war in the Ukraine, if Putin didn't facilitate them, by going ahead with his abominable invasion of the Ukraine ?

   That spat between Biden & Putin reminds me of that confrontation between the communists and the Klan in Greensboro NC, back in 1979.
   
Let the two nut factories kill each other off !
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2022, 03:59:35 AM »
IG...
If you want to stop them in Ukraine,
then you have to stop them in Washington, too.
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Difficult logic. To stop the Russians from attacking Ukraine, stop supporting the Ukrainians who are resisting the Russians.

Illogical logic. Just blame it on Trump.
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2022, 04:04:33 AM »
IG...
If you want to stop them in Ukraine,
then you have to stop them in Washington, too.
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Difficult logic. To stop the Russians from attacking Ukraine, stop supporting the Ukrainians who are resisting the Russians.

   If Putin had stayed home...there would be no reason to send arms to the Ukraine, simple as that !

   There is a lake near Webster Massachusetts that has a very long name.  It is said to have the longest place name in America...and possibly in the world, country of Wales notwithstanding  ;) ;D

  Here is that name...and what it means:

  Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg:..... “You fish on your side, I’ll fish on my side, and nobody fishes in the middle.”

  Putin would have done well to understand what the explanation means... ;) ;D
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2022, 08:20:38 AM »

BTW, so far Russia has only deployed about 10 - 15% of their military assets in Ukr


Out of approximately 160 Russian BTG’s, 120 were deployed at the start of invasion. (75%)

Number of functional BTG’s is lower now due to losses.

Most sites return like figures. Easy to verify with a simple search.
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2022, 08:44:32 AM »

BTW, so far Russia has only deployed about 10 - 15% of their military assets in Ukr


Out of approximately 160 Russian BTG’s, 120 were deployed at the start of invasion. (75%)

Number of functional BTG’s is lower now due to losses.

Most sites return like figures. Easy to verify with a simple search.

I hope Russia ends up losing all its assets (military equipment) to the Ukraine, and Pukin dies while sittin on the toilet. Just flush and spray the Glade.
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2022, 10:03:46 PM »
Maybe with all that power YOUR SIDE might have the power to concur the world. Maybe then your opinions will matter 8) 
VaR...

I was referring to their entire military assets, which is over 1,000,000 active duty and 2,000,000 reserve totaling 3 million of which 220,000 are deployed; which is less than 10%. This is verifiable in many sources. Here's one -->

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Armed_Forces

I cannot confirm how many Russian BTG have been deployed, or killed in action. I suspect your number is inflated (like Joe's economy), but if you have reliable sources outside the official narrative metronome I'd like to see them..Thx.
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BTW, so far Russia has only deployed about 10 - 15% of their military assets in Ukr


Out of approximately 160 Russian BTG’s, 120 were deployed at the start of invasion. (75%)

Number of functional BTG’s is lower now due to losses.

Most sites return like figures. Easy to verify with a simple search.
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2022, 04:14:54 AM »
VaR...

I was referring to their entire military assets, which is over 1,000,000 active duty and 2,000,000 reserve totaling 3 million of which 220,000 are deployed; which is less than 10%. This is verifiable in many sources. Here's one -->

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Armed_Forces

I cannot confirm how many Russian BTG have been deployed, or killed in action. I suspect your number is inflated (like Joe's economy), but if you have reliable sources outside the official narrative metronome I'd like to see them..Thx.
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Not sure what source is acceptable as I don’t do Russian propaganda.

For others....

https://www.fpri.org/article/2022/04/appraising-the-war-in-ukraine-and-likely-outcomes/

“Russia has already committed three quarters of its available ground and airborne tactical units to Ukraine. It has only approximately 30-35 battalion tactical groups in reserve, and some of these must stay in Kaliningrad and the North Caucasus to leave a modicum of military power for other contingencies. Unlike the Soviet-Finnish War of 1939-1940, Russia does not have a large enough army to send in endless echelons of troops to steamroll enemy opposition. What forces it commits in the next few weeks will be its strategic reserve. For the first time in the history of modern European warfare, Russia may run out of soldiers”.

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https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-news-02-20-22-intl/h_a75912013e1a5572ef733fd4a7167d48

“According to the latest US intelligence assessment, Russia now has close to 75% of its conventional forces postured against Ukraine, a US official with direct knowledge of the intelligence told CNN.

This includes some 120 of Russia's total estimated 160 Battalion Tactical Groups or BTGs which are positioned within 60km of Ukraine, according to the official. While that figure represents 75% of Russia’s principal combat units, it is less than half of the total troops in the Russian military”.

Experience says some will discount our own Intel which has been pretty good. Both during the run up and during the war. Just ask the Russian Generals. Those still alive that is.
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2022, 12:34:10 PM »
I’m willing to fight this war to the last Ukrainian...
Since I have “no skin in this”

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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2022, 01:15:00 PM »
  It's simple....
 If Russia had not imorally and illegally attacked their neighbor..we would not even be talking about this.
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« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2022, 01:19:33 PM »
TM7. IDK. My crystal ball is a little cloudy. Seeing a fuzzy long protracted stalemate at lines yet to be defined.

Losses and resupply come into play with strength estimates. Western sources for current RF losses vary from 18% to 25%. Yet to see a number for UA losses though they must be substantial.

Russians hitting UA rail, bridges and petroleum with Ukrainians trying to return the favor dispite the lack of long range weapon systems.

Guess we have to wait for May 9th as to Putin’s future intentions.

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Fascinating read for those so inclined. The one time Commanding General of U.S. Army Europe speaking to the evolution of both RF and UA forces.

https://www.thebulwark.com/i-commanded-u-s-army-europe-heres-what-i-saw-in-the-russian-and-ukrainian-armies/
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« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2022, 02:04:06 PM »
  It's simple....
 If Russia had not imorally and illegally attacked their neighbor..we would not even be talking about this.

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« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2022, 09:40:17 PM »
if russia claims to have valid evidence it must be true. They have a history of being open and honest ::)
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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2022, 12:26:36 AM »
if russia claims to have valid evidence it must be true. They have a history of being open and honest ::)

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Re: Stop them in the Ukraine..
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2022, 08:16:23 AM »
IG talked about Russian tanks in another thread; I wonder if the Russian Army commanders will send some Armata Tanks to Ukraine and use the crew as expendable rats to see if it has avoided the faults of the old ones based on the T-60?