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Our government wants a war.
« on: May 11, 2022, 01:49:43 AM »

The beginning of the article states that Biden doesn't know what he is doing, which I agree with, but those that are pulling the strings, and writing Biden's script. Know exactly what they are doing. 


Slouching towards war with Russia: Biden's drift is getting dangerous
By Monica Showalter

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/05/slouching_towards_war_with_russia_bidens_drift_is_getting_dangerous.html

Joe Biden, the man who has been "wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades," as former defense secretary Bob Gates wrote, has nebulously put the U.S. on a path to war with Russia.  Not because he wants to.  But because he doesn't know what he's doing.

That's the consensus of foreign policy experts as diverse as Thomas Friedman, golf buddy to President Obama, and Mark Wauck, the decorated former FBI official from its pre-wokedom era.

According to Friedman, writing on May 6:

    If you just followed news reports on Ukraine, you might think that the war has settled into a long, grinding and somewhat boring slog. You would be wrong.

    Things are actually getting more dangerous by the day.

    For starters, the longer this war goes on, the more opportunity for catastrophic miscalculations — and the raw material for that is piling up fast and furious. Take the two high-profile leaks from American officials this past week about U.S. involvement in the Russia-Ukraine war[.]

Friedman cited the leaks from supposed U.S. officials declaring that the U.S. had given Ukraine intelligence to enable it to target and kill Russian generals and that the U.S. had given targeting information to Ukraine to help it sink the Moskva, Russia's Black Sea flagship naval ship.

    As a journalist, I love a good leak story, and the reporters who broke those stories did powerful digging. At the same time, from everything I have been able to glean from senior U.S. officials, who spoke to me on condition of anonymity, the leaks were not part of any thought-out strategy, and President Biden was livid about them. I'm told that he called the director of national intelligence, the director of the C.I.A. and the secretary of defense to make clear in the strongest and most colorful language that this kind of loose talk is reckless and has got to stop immediately — before we end up in an unintended war with Russia.

    The staggering takeaway from these leaks is that they suggest we are no longer in an indirect war with Russia but rather are edging toward a direct war — and no one has prepared the American people or Congress for that.

 Wauck, too, commenting on the leaks, had this to say:

    These braggadocious claims seemed to many, including myself, to be remarkably reckless and provocative. That, in turn, has led some to speculate that the Zhou administration is actually seeking to provoke open war with Russia for domestic political reasons — the Midterm Elections, imposition of authoritarian control over dissent, etc.

    Now, however, identifiable Pentagon officials — people with names, like, "John Kirby" — are walking back the claims of the anonymous "senior American officials" and "US officials". This leads to speculation that is little less disturbing than the idea that elements within the US government — carefully concealed behind deliberately vague sourcing statements — are, in fact, attempting to walk the US up to the brink of war, but that other elements, prominently in the Pentagon, are resisting rushin' to war. We have repeatedly pointed to this dynamic throughout the course of Russia's "special operation" in Ukraine.

    That the US government is so divided on the core issue of war or peace with a nuclear power is disturbing in and of itself. That one faction in the government is attempting to go over the heads of the Pentagon on the issue of a war of choice adds to the concern. The fact that the sources are identified so vaguely is further cause for concern, since it suggests a lack of military expertise. That this semi-public debate is taking place with essentially no significant input from the one constitutional institution of the American republic which has the authority to declare a war — the legislative branch — or meaningful public debate should raise our concerns to the level of alarm.

Both have pointed out that Biden doesn't really know what he's doing.

Friedman: "Boasting about killing his generals and sinking his ships, or falling in love with Ukraine in ways that will get us enmeshed there forever, is the height of folly."

Wauck: "This leads to speculation that is little less disturbing than the idea that elements within the US government—carefully concealed behind deliberately vague sourcing statements—are, in fact, attempting to walk the US up to the brink of war, but that other elements, prominently in the Pentagon, are resisting rushin' to war."

Now we see the next card come down: Biden signing a new bill to enable arms sales to Ukraine on easier, streamlined terms.  According to the Washington Post:

    "The Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act of 2022 revives this pivotal program, waiving time-consuming requirements on the president's authority to send critical defensive resources to Ukraine," she said. "It's important to note that it's about time. Time is very important when lives are at stake."

This takes us yet another step closer to direct war with Russia.

There may be "wag the dog" reasons for these decisions.  But just as likely, the Bidenites are allowing themselves to be jerked around by various sources from defense contractors eager for big contracts, to Trump-haters of the Rep. Adam Schiff variety eager to "prove" that President Trump was the bad guy on Ukraine, to the understandably compassionate Ukrainian-American émigré lobby, to lazy, cheapskate Europeans happy to get the U.S. to do Europe's fighting and secure its energy supply.  He's being jerked from all directions and doesn't know what he's doing.

But each day seems to be showing U.S. involvement in the Ukraine conflict getting closer and closer, while there is no public debate about it.  We may find ourselves suctioned into a war with Russia, with Ukraine the proxy element, and end up footing the entire bill for the problem.  What's worse, we may well be exposing ourselves to Russian cyber-attacks and Russian oil cutoffs, not just of the Russian supply, but the supplies of its proxies and allies.  Venezuela, for example, made it very clear to the Bidenites that its loyalty to patron Russia is paramount, so don't expect Venezuela to be supplying the U.S. with oil it won't produce itself.  Russia itself has warned of "consequences" to the U.S. for doling out Ukraine military aid.

Biden has signed off on this measure, which comes on top of all the aid packages he's approved, plus the leaks about killing generals and sinking battleships, and all one can wonder is what's next.  Will this be the end of it, or will there be more and more to come?  Biden is facing a shellacking come November, so it wouldn't be surprising if he leans toward getting us into a war in order to see the voters rally around the flag and president.  But on the other hand, this isn't some little third-world hellhole dictatorship; this is nuclear-armed Russia, which is a bit more than a farm with nukes.  He may well be biting off more than he can chew, making himself the equivalent of Kaiser Wilhelm II in rank stupidity — and the consequences will be on us.
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Re: Our government wants a war.
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2022, 02:11:09 PM »
They need something to distract the voters that actually show up to vote.

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Re: Our government wants a war.
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2022, 02:49:00 PM »
   We're already   knee deep in it .  Dont think Putin  wont retaliate against  the U.S.  for  supplying   intelligence  and  arms  .

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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2022, 02:59:37 PM »
Of course they do. They are getting kick backs. Even the emotional panty wetters on GBO are for this.
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Re: Our government wants a war.
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2022, 03:27:27 PM »
The republicans are every bit as nuts about Ukraine as the democrats are.  Should hear that POS McConnell talk about it. . You know, the republicans that are going to save us from the democrats in November.  Meanwhile the republicans haven't done squat to make the November election any fairer.
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Re: Our government wants a war.
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2022, 01:03:33 AM »
 ..Let's see...Biden wants a war..Putin wants the Ukraine..

  Did we ever consider they may be working in concert?  That way they each get what they want, and the supposedly alert citizens of each country go on debating the issue..

  Meanwhile, Biden puts the US in deeper debt and Vlad gets his expansionist efforts rewarded.

Why did fair-haired boy Hunter, get millions from the wife of the mayor of Moscow.?   

Was she just a conduit from Vlad to Joe ?
   
...But that would require both Joe and Vlad to be dishonest..no way that could happen!  ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2022, 04:49:23 AM »
..Let's see...Biden wants a war..Putin wants the Ukraine..

  Did we ever consider they may be working in concert?  That way they each get what they want, and the supposedly alert citizens of each country go on debating the issue..

  Meanwhile, Biden puts the US in deeper debt and Vlad gets his expansionist efforts rewarded.

Why did fair-haired boy Hunter, get millions from the wife of the mayor of Moscow.?   

Was she just a conduit from Vlad to Joe ?
   
...But that would require both Joe and Vlad to be dishonest..no way that could happen!  ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Meanwhile ,Hunter is trying to cut a deal so none of his Schrads will be made public .  And IMO ,  this story will disappear quicker that a chocolate bar in a fat kids house .   

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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2022, 07:23:43 AM »
  Meanwhile  Joe gets whathe wants..distraction plus another shot at breaking the country financially, which would please his "gang of 4" commie bosses.
 
 So Putin gets to expand by way oif Demonrats..  Does anyone think he will stop with the Ukraine, if he conquers those brave people?

    Don't kid yourself, depotic men or groups don't stop with just one, and anyone with half an active brain knows better!
  The Assyrian empire, theBabylonian empire, the Romans, the Goths, Huns, Vandals, Visigoths, Ghengis Kahn, Napoleon, Stalin, Hitler......

     Read about them..they went on until someone or something stopped them.  They conquer other countries, drain them of their wealth and resources to finance further conquests.

    Should we rather encourage and help the brave Ukrainians to stop this scourge now..or should we procrastinate...until it becomes a major, perhaps world wide war?
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Re: Our government wants a war.
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2022, 07:37:48 AM »
“Anyone with half an active brain knows better” nice way to insult any opposing opinions... I think you are totally fos on this Ukraine-Russia deal btw... There, returned the insult...

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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2022, 07:53:21 AM »
“Anyone with half an active brain knows better” nice way to insult any opposing opinions... I think you are totally fos on this Ukraine-Russia deal btw... There, returned the insult...

  Yes, that was a crude wayof speaking..although I did not single out any individual..I apologize to any who took personal offence.
 
  Such a statement sprung from frustration, since we all are able to study such tyrannical leaders and see clearly what type oif personal demons drive them.  Such information and biographies re available to any who wish.
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2022, 07:59:21 AM »
“Anyone with half an active brain knows better” nice way to insult any opposing opinions... I think you are totally fos on this Ukraine-Russia deal btw... There, returned the insult...

  Yes, that was a crude wayof speaking..although I did not single out any individual..I apologize to any who took personal offence.
 
  Such a statement sprung from frustration, since we all are able to study such tyrannical leaders and see clearly what type oif personal demons drive them.  Such information and biographies re available to any who wish.
I believe we are all very frustrated right now and the fuse is short...

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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2022, 08:37:36 AM »
Glad we don't live in a city. That’s where all the hate and crime is. People on top of each other and driving in them is hazardous. Nothing changes here, not in a hurry anyway.
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2022, 11:06:34 AM »
 working on ways to get rid of these Biden fascist bums before we're toast.

Well...We KNOW  Voting Ain't gonna Work.....

How do We get our Country Back??

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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2022, 12:16:01 PM »
working on ways to get rid of these Biden fascist bums before we're toast.

Well...We KNOW  Voting Ain't gonna Work.....

How do We get our Country Back??
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2022, 12:33:04 PM »
Of course they do. They are getting kick backs. Even the emotional panty wetters on GBO are for this.

Who are these GBO "emotional panty wetters"? :-\
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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2022, 06:02:16 PM »
Of course they do. They are getting kick backs. Even the emotional panty wetters on GBO are for this.

Who are these GBO "emotional panty wetters"? :-\

Use your special detective skills and figure it out!
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Re: Our government wants a war.
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2022, 01:55:22 AM »
Of course they do. They are getting kick backs. Even the emotional panty wetters on GBO are for this.

Who are these GBO "emotional panty wetters"? :-\

Use your special detective skills and figure it out!

Well, the line is kinda confusing with all the back and forth. I'm personally for staying out of the war, but you seem to have the "panty wetters" figured out and who they were.
My detective skills weren't ever all that special, and about all that works anymore, is my " BS meter", and even that is slower with all the use it gets here. ;D
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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2022, 05:57:03 PM »
Here's a plan that would make all involved and the rest of the world rest easier.  Joe Brandon calls for an in person summit meeting with Putin to find a solution to the mess in Ukraine.  Brandon hints that we might stop support to Ukraine as an enticement to Putin.  Putin bites, Joe is loaded with a very powerful explosive and at the summit joe blows his top and sends himself, Putin and whoever else is nearby to hell where they belong.  We win, the Russian people win,  Ukraine wins and the world is better for a while.  Maybe Kamala would attend the summit like a good little VP and hopefully she would invite Nancy P to be there too.
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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2022, 02:01:05 AM »
Here's a plan that would make all involved and the rest of the world rest easier.  Joe Brandon calls for an in person summit meeting with Putin to find a solution to the mess in Ukraine.  Brandon hints that we might stop support to Ukraine as an enticement to Putin.  Putin bites, Joe is loaded with a very powerful explosive and at the summit joe blows his top and sends himself, Putin and whoever else is nearby to hell where they belong.  We win, the Russian people win,  Ukraine wins and the world is better for a while.  Maybe Kamala would attend the summit like a good little VP and hopefully she would invite Nancy P to be there too.

FINALLY!Sumthin that makes sense.  ;D
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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2022, 03:12:32 AM »
can they please take pelosi shummer shiff aoc newsome and the whole squad with them too. It would be the greatest day in american history
Here's a plan that would make all involved and the rest of the world rest easier.  Joe Brandon calls for an in person summit meeting with Putin to find a solution to the mess in Ukraine.  Brandon hints that we might stop support to Ukraine as an enticement to Putin.  Putin bites, Joe is loaded with a very powerful explosive and at the summit joe blows his top and sends himself, Putin and whoever else is nearby to hell where they belong.  We win, the Russian people win,  Ukraine wins and the world is better for a while.  Maybe Kamala would attend the summit like a good little VP and hopefully she would invite Nancy P to be there too.
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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2022, 03:38:44 PM »
Biden has just gave the go ahead to send mobile long range rocket launchers to Ukraine.  This just after denying Zelensky's request yesterday.   
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