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This is ugly...and inhuman..
« on: May 11, 2022, 12:46:28 PM »
  Something this old tanker and none I ever knew would do.  It is just this kind of thing, which brings on hatred for Putin, his military..and anything he stands for or holds dear.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzGyPIBlPTI
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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2022, 12:51:04 PM »
Putin needs to be executed for war crimes along with his generals and the driver of that armored vehicle.
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Re: This is ugly...and inhuman..
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2022, 12:54:44 PM »
That one happened about the 1st week of the invasion. The old man in the car survived.
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2022, 01:00:14 PM »
  Amazing that he survived...no thanks to the brave Russian warriors !

  Gee; maybe he had 120mm tank gun aimed over his steering wheel !  Clear, he wasn't a "suicide bomber', since the Russian tank quite obviously swerved into him..  SAVAGES !
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Re: This is ugly...and inhuman..
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2022, 01:44:15 PM »
The driver survived, and it was revealed that it was most like likely a Ukrainian military vehicle.  To me it looked accidental as the "tank" was already skidding when it veered into the car.  This is a comment from the video:
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Actually, the armored car is not a Russian tank,
but a Strela-10 missile system. of design
and Soviet-made, from the 70s, that
system is operational by the Armed Forces
Ukrainian and does not participate in the Russian operation because it is considered obsolete.
User comment repost: Ángel Curo Cuaresma

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K35_Strela-10
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Re: This is ugly...and inhuman..
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2022, 01:58:08 PM »
Lets invoke emotions so we can send more cash to Ukraine to launder back to our politicians. The liberal way emotions over facts!
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Re: This is ugly...and inhuman..
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2022, 01:42:25 AM »
The driver survived, and it was revealed that it was most like likely a Ukrainian military vehicle.  To me it looked accidental as the "tank" was already skidding when it veered into the car. Unlike ourarmored vehicles which are generally equipped witrh rubber pads, their steel tracks will skid on pavement when cramped hard to abruptly change direction.  Note..he had no problem backing off the car. This is a comment from the video:
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Actually, the armored car is not a Russian tank,
but a Strela-10 missile system. of design
and Soviet-made, from the 70s, that
system is operational by the Armed Forces
Ukrainian and does not participate in the Russian operation because it is considered obsolete.
User comment repost: Ángel Curo Cuaresma

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K35_Strela-10


  Of course, I didn't claim that was a tank...but when crushing a small car, 26 tons works nearly as well as 50 tons.  If it were an 'accident'..why didn't they stop to render aid? ...Nice try, Ivan !

  Military car ?.. not olive drab, but shiny black, with nice mag wheels? Old man driving?

  Of course, that statement is from Russian sources....

   ..And they claim and they are not using such obsolete equipment.
 
 ..It doesn't look that way..  https://www.jpost.com/international/article-704938
 
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Re: This is ugly...and inhuman..
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2022, 01:49:39 AM »
  Amazing that he survived...no thanks to the brave Russian warriors !

  Gee; maybe he had 120mm tank gun aimed over his steering wheel !  Clear, he wasn't a "suicide bomber', since the Russian tank quite obviously swerved into him..  SAVAGES !

The driver survived, and it was revealed that it was most like likely a Ukrainian military vehicle.  To me it looked accidental as the "tank" was already skidding when it veered into the car. Unlike ourarmored vehicles which are generally equipped witrh rubber pads, their steel tracks will skid on pavement when cramped hard to abruptly change direction.  Note..he had no problem backing off the car. This is a comment from the video:
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Actually, the armored car is not a Russian tank,
but a Strela-10 missile system. of design
and Soviet-made, from the 70s, that
system is operational by the Armed Forces
Ukrainian and does not participate in the Russian operation because it is considered obsolete.
User comment repost: Ángel Curo Cuaresma

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K35_Strela-10


  Of course, I didn't claim that was a tank...but when crushing a small car, 26 tons works nearly as well as 50 tons.  If it were an 'accident'..why didn't they stop to render aid? ...Nice try, Ivan !

  Military car ?.. not olive drab, but shiny black, with nice mag wheels? Old man driving?

  Of course, that statement is from Russian sources....

   ..And they claim and they are not using such obsolete equipment.
 
 ..It doesn't look that way..  https://www.jpost.com/international/article-704938
 

Well, actually you did claim it was a tank. ;)
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2022, 03:03:46 AM »
IG.,....
I didn't see a Z on that skidding tank.
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Well these guys will believe everything the MSM tells them.
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2022, 07:02:09 AM »
IG.,....
I didn't see a Z on that skidding tank.
.

Well these guys will believe everything the MSM tells them.

I don't believe anything this government says, or the news media, along with several on this site. ;)
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2022, 07:16:25 AM »
War is ugly and inhumane, best way to fight one is to make it so ugly and inhumane for your enemy that they surrender.
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Re: This is ugly...and inhuman..
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2022, 07:38:46 AM »
  Amazing that he survived...no thanks to the brave Russian warriors !

  Gee; maybe he had 120mm tank gun aimed over his steering wheel !  Clear, he wasn't a "suicide bomber', since the Russian tank quite obviously swerved into him..  SAVAGES !

The driver survived, and it was revealed that it was most like likely a Ukrainian military vehicle.  To me it looked accidental as the "tank" was already skidding when it veered into the car. Unlike ourarmored vehicles which are generally equipped witrh rubber pads, their steel tracks will skid on pavement when cramped hard to abruptly change direction.  Note..he had no problem backing off the car. This is a comment from the video:
Quote
Actually, the armored car is not a Russian tank,
but a Strela-10 missile system. of design
and Soviet-made, from the 70s, that
system is operational by the Armed Forces
Ukrainian and does not participate in the Russian operation because it is considered obsolete.
User comment repost: Ángel Curo Cuaresma

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K35_Strela-10


  Of course, I didn't claim that was a tank...but when crushing a small car, 26 tons works nearly as well as 50 tons.  If it were an 'accident'..why didn't they stop to render aid? ...Nice try, Ivan !

  Military car ?.. not olive drab, but shiny black, with nice mag wheels? Old man driving?

  Of course, that statement is from Russian sources....

   ..And they claim and they are not using such obsolete equipment.
 
 ..It doesn't look that way..  https://www.jpost.com/international/article-704938
 

Well, actually you did claim it was a tank. ;)

  Oops! My bad..in an ungarded moment, I referred to the vehicle as a tank..
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Re: This is ugly...and inhuman..
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2022, 07:47:24 AM »
War is ugly and inhumane, best way to fight one is to make it so ugly and inhumane for your enemy that they surrender.

  It looks like there should have been a surrender last week..but there many expect that Vlad may hang on, despite his troops and equipment being wasted.

   https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/23/up-to-40000-russian-soldiers-killed-wounded-captured-or-mia-nato-says.html
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2022, 07:57:11 AM »
IG.,....
I didn't see a Z on that skidding tank.
.

  Yeah, sure  The Ukraine forces are busy going around, running over their countrymen and their cars.

  Maybe it was a new car...and somebody was jealous...
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2022, 08:37:21 AM »
War is ugly and inhumane, best way to fight one is to make it so ugly and inhumane for your enemy that they surrender.

  It looks like there should have been a surrender last week..but there many expect that Vlad may hang on, despite his troops and equipment being wasted.

   https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/23/up-to-40000-russian-soldiers-killed-wounded-captured-or-mia-nato-says.html

CNBC!  ;D ::) :P

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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2022, 02:01:18 PM »
War is ugly and inhumane, best way to fight one is to make it so ugly and inhumane for your enemy that they surrender.

  It looks like there should have been a surrender last week..but there many expect that Vlad may hang on, despite his troops and equipment being wasted.

   https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/23/up-to-40000-russian-soldiers-killed-wounded-captured-or-mia-nato-says.html

CNBC!  ;D ::) :P

The MSM lied to you about everything else but this.

  I only linked to CNBC because they were early in the list..but for anyone who keeps abreast of current events, Russian losses are obvious..

  Others, like Fox, Newsmax, Forbes and BBC, just to name a few, see the huge losses also..

  Check this one out, from the Center for Strategic and International Studies...
    https://www.csis.org/analysis/russian-casualties-ukraine-reaching-tipping-point

  When will Vlad throw in the towel...and quit attacking his neighbors?
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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2022, 04:22:03 PM »
IG.,....
I didn't see a Z on that skidding tank.
.
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  Yeah, sure  The Ukraine forces are busy going around, running over their countrymen and their cars.

  Maybe it was a new car...and somebody was jealous...
...........................,.....................

Yes.....it looked like an accident, the armored vehicle was going too fast and lost control.
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It happens, and sometimes unfortunate things happen.  Our troops actually practice to overcome these things.
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« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2022, 06:00:51 PM »
War is ugly and inhumane, best way to fight one is to make it so ugly and inhumane for your enemy that they surrender.

  It looks like there should have been a surrender last week..but there many expect that Vlad may hang on, despite his troops and equipment being wasted.

   https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/23/up-to-40000-russian-soldiers-killed-wounded-captured-or-mia-nato-says.html

CNBC!  ;D ::) :P

The MSM lied to you about everything else but this.

  I only linked to CNBC because they were early oin the list..but foe anyone who keeps abrteast of current events, Russian losses are obvious..

  Others, like Fox, Newsmax, Forbes and BBC, just to name a few, see the huge losses also..

  Check this one out, from the Center for Strategic and International Studies...
    https://www.csis.org/analysis/russian-casualties-ukraine-reaching-tipping-point

  When will Vlad throw in the towel...and quit attacking his neighbors?

Ukraine has already lost! Only you CNN junkies don't know it. 🤣
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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2022, 01:56:11 AM »
War is ugly and inhumane, best way to fight one is to make it so ugly and inhumane for your enemy that they surrender.

  It looks like there should have been a surrender last week..but there many expect that Vlad may hang on, despite his troops and equipment being wasted.

   https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/23/up-to-40000-russian-soldiers-killed-wounded-captured-or-mia-nato-says.html

CNBC!  ;D ::) :P

The MSM lied to you about everything else but this.

  I only linked to CNBC because they were early oin the list..but foe anyone who keeps abrteast of current events, Russian losses are obvious..

  Others, like Fox, Newsmax, Forbes and BBC, just to name a few, see the huge losses also..

  Check this one out, from the Center for Strategic and International Studies...
    https://www.csis.org/analysis/russian-casualties-ukraine-reaching-tipping-point

  When will Vlad throw in the towel...and quit attacking his neighbors?

Ukraine has already lost! Only you CNN junkies don't know it. 🤣

 So, you ran out of any cogent counter-point already..?   ;)  ;D
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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2022, 02:00:12 AM »
He may be stuck in the mud. He says there's a lotta GBO "panty wetters" and their depends may be full, or leaking. ;D
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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2022, 02:06:58 AM »
IG.,....
I didn't see a Z on that skidding tank.
.
.

  Yeah, sure  The Ukraine forces are busy going around, running over their countrymen and their cars.

  Maybe it was a new car...and somebody was jealous...
...........................,.....................

Yes.....it looked like an accident, the armored vehicle was going too fast and lost control.
.
It happens, and sometimes unfortunate things happen.  Our troops actually practice to overcome these things.

    Apples and oranges... icy conditions are a whole, new ball of wax..

  We had one troop who lost control during steering and damaged a parked car, but it was only a short veer off course. 
  The M47 Patton was a bit differentthan later models, in that it steered by a wobble stick, which took a bit of dexterity.  If you don't force enough, you don't steer..a bit too much force, and you veer sharply.

   I have seen that happen, but not nearly as drastic as that tracked vehicle did.  It even appears to have scuffed up the pavement.
   Later track laying vehicles..at least ours anyway, seem to have a different steering system.
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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2022, 02:19:02 AM »
IG.,....
I didn't see a Z on that skidding tank.
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  Some have  the letter Z, others the letter V, others ..no such letter..some flew commie flags, some didn't.
  Some fought, others abandoned their vehicles.. The Russian army is beginning to look like Cox's army..

   During WW2, the Russians performed some wild atrocities in Berlin..it's the waythey do their business..

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8wRcfwOLZQ
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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2022, 04:02:35 AM »
Going back and looking at the "tracked vehicle" it DOES APPEAR" that it had lost control,  and it crushed the car unintentionally.
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« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2022, 04:51:03 AM »
    Apples and oranges... icy conditions are a whole, new ball of wax..

  We had one troop who lost control during steering and damaged a parked car, but it was only a short veer off course. 
  The M47 Patton was a bit differentthan later models, in that it steered by a wobble stick, which took a bit of dexterity.  If you don't force enough, you don't steer..a bit too much force, and you veer sharply.

   I have seen that happen, but not nearly as drastic as that tracked vehicle did.  It even appears to have scuffed up the pavement.
   Later track laying vehicles..at least ours anyway, seem to have a different steering system.
Not really much different, icy roads just make it easier to happen for training purposes, we also use dirt roads for the same training.  Heavy vehicle operators must take this training prior to deployment overseas, specially if needing to operate in populated areas.  Just like an 18 wheeler, inertia will take that heavy military vehicle in weird directions depending on road conditions, track conditions (some have rubber pads) and operator reactions.  There have been plenty of accidents where our military vehicles have run civilian vehicles over, in our first sand trip a duece and a half had a head-on with a Saudi vehicle killing all aboard, we had to fly our driver home to keep him out of legal troubles even though it was the Saudi's fault (and SOFA applied).
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« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2022, 06:16:49 AM »
A former coworker and friend used to
speak every now and then of his time
spent inside tracked armor in germany,
and how every now and then the vehicle
would lurch really hard and jostle the
crew around and they'd have to stop and
get out to look behind and see what kind
of car had flattened itself on the back of
their vehicle at very high speed.
He said there'd be a compressed pile
of mercedes or bmw or whatever with
oil and antifreeze and red froth dribbling
out of the cracks. Said the delay and the
red tape involved was the biggest of
messes
18 MINUTES.  . . . . . .

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« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2022, 07:09:51 AM »
It looks like the MSM propaganda was working for the emotional folks. But when looked at rationally, it was just an accident.
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« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2022, 07:14:15 AM »
It looks like the MSM propaganda was working for the emotional folks. But when looked at rationally, it was just an accident.


I've always Wondered Why  when so Many 'Accidents' Happen...There always Video of It....

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« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2022, 07:19:27 AM »
Because everyone has a camera with them now. In eastern Europe most people have dash cams.
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« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2022, 09:37:32 AM »
That video has been on YouTube for awhile now.
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« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2022, 10:25:48 AM »
It looks like the MSM propaganda was working for the emotional folks. But when looked at rationally, it was just an accident.


I've always Wondered Why  when so Many 'Accidents' Happen...There always Video of It....
  I dont  think it was a accident myself .