I think my carry load is just under 1600fps. Even in a 4 inch 686 its hot.
You Sir are the problem according to Joe.That should only be used by the military as an anti-tank gun.
Even my 38 special loads for home defense of trail boss behind a 110 gr wad-cutter is way overkill.
LOL, I get a hard time from the younger folks that carry the nines. I always ask if they use the double tap, and they proudly say "yes"!
I then point out that a 12 round magazine is good for only 6 opponents.
With my magnum, one each is plenty.