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Clips, Mags, and the 9mm Revolver
« on: June 02, 2022, 09:51:33 AM »
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Posted on May 25, 2022 • by Travis Pike

I like my revolvers like I like my automatics — in a caliber I can afford to shoot a lot of. As such, it’s not a surprise the revolvers I own are either in 9mm or 22LR. I’m a big fan of the 9mm revolver and the Ruger LCR, in particular, is one of my favorites. I started thinking, can I use a 9mm magazine to load a 9mm revolver. Like some kind of deadly Pez dispenser?

Well, there was only one way to find out. I grabbed some Global Ordnance 9mm, my Ruger LCR in 9mm, a Glock 17 mag, and a Savage Stance mag. I grabbed different mags to see if the design difference made a difference. The idea seems silly, but I figured science demanded an answer.


The Ruger LCR 9mm revolver utilizes moon clips. These teeny tiny pieces of metal hold five rounds in a circular design, making dropping ammo and reloading pretty easy. Moon clips work exceptionally well and tend to be fairly cheap. The downside is that moon clips are flimsy, bend easily, and are kind of bulky.


Mags are longer but slimmer.

Packing extra moon clips involves some form of a pouch, which are often also bulky and make retrieving your moon clip equipped round slow. The pouches tend to print, too, though some are better than others. The Speedbeez designs are nice and are made from modern polymers. A company called Jeffrey Custom Leather makes a nice combination device to carry spare moon clips, too.


Which is easier to carry?

Most are super bulky, though, and the good ones tend to be expensive. What’s not bulky and not always expensive are the dozens of different mag pouches. You can carry mags in special pocket setups, IWB, OWB, and basically any way you want to carry one. Carrying a 17-round mag might be easier than carrying three moon clips full of ammo. Heck, carrying a ten-round magazine gives you two reloads without hardly any bulk.

The real question is, does it work?

Lighting it Up With the 9mm Revolver

To find out if it works, I went to the range with my mags, my gun, a shot timer, and some ammo. I devised a simple drill. I’d drop a full moon clip in the gun loaded with four empty cases and one live round.


Can we load a 9mm revolver with a magazine?

With the shot timer, I’d hit the go button and fire that one round. I’d then eject the empties and reload with the magazine. The drill ended when I fired one round after the guns reloaded.


Both can load a revolver, kind of.

I used a Neomag to store the spare magazine. I tried it a few different ways. First, I kept the gun in my dominant hand and reloaded round by round with my off-hand. Trying to push rounds out of the magazine and into the cylinders while spinning the cylinder proved to be less than intuitive.

Loading the LCR with the mag took some practice to master.
My first run was 15 seconds. That’s long enough to load a black powder pistol and fire, so I switched it up. I opened the cylinder and used the middle finger of my non-dominant hand to push the cylinder out of the gun. I’d transfer the 9mm revolver from my firing hand to my off-hand with my middle finger and thumb holding the cylinder.

Then I’d use my dominant hand to deposit the rounds one by one into the cylinder as I rotated the cylinder with my thumb. Once loaded, I’d close the cylinder and fire one round to end the drill. My best time broke right below ten seconds after two runs.

Does It Work?

Sure, in the fact that you can reload a 9mm revolver cylinder with a magazine. I didn’t see much difference between a double stack or a single stack magazine. I found the smaller, shorter magazine easier to grip and empty when reloading. It’s just less clumsy than the larger mag. Maybe a P365 mag would be the best of both worlds?

While you can use the Pez of death to reload your 9mm revolver, it’s not very fast. I timed my reloads with a moon clip and with loose ammo. Tossing a moon clip in takes about a third of the time with the same drill. A three-second reload isn’t that tough with moon clips.

I attempted to reload as fast as I could with a pocket full of loose ammo, and that turned out to be the slowest way to reload, unsurprisingly. Reloading from a 9mm magazine is a lot easier than loading with loose ammo. It’s more intuitive and much easier to draw a mag than a fistful of cartridges.


Ejection with a moon clip is simple and easy.

Without a moon clip, extracting empties can be a pain. Sometimes they shake out easily enough. Other times a case or two will stick enough that it takes a thumbnail or a push rod to remove. That’s certainly an issue you’ll have to deal with for multiple reloads.

But Why?

The idea that one should carry a spare mag to reload their revolver is a little silly. It works and can be intuitive, but it’s still so much slower than just throwing in another moon clip. Sure carrying moon slips can be a bit of a hassle compared to magazines, but it’s a much faster and more intuitive way to reload your gun.

I’m sure I could dream up a zombie apocalypse scenario or some wackadoo situation when my main gun goes down, my 9mm revolver is a backup, and I have to reload via magazine, but that doesn’t appeal to real life.


The rounds work without a moon clip.

With all that said, I still plan to practice a little more with the concept. Maybe toss in some snap caps and practice the motions till I’m laying 9mm down like a chicken lays eggs. Maybe the time gap will shorten, but I doubt it will do so enough to make it practical.


Without a moon clip, ejection isn’t easy.

I could deal with the bulk, but I just hate how easy it is to bend and deform moon clips. That’s a huge weakness. Especially if in the midst of a fight, you fall onto your moon clips. They’re easily bent, and when bent, they are worthless. A magazine tends to work and resist deformation. 

9mm Clips For my Ruger

Admittedly I don’t carry a five-shot J-frame when I can carry a 10-round Sig P365 that’s basically the same size, if not smaller. However, it was a fun experiment, even if the overall theory was wacky, to begin with.


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Re: Clips, Mags, and the 9mm Revolver
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2022, 10:27:51 PM »
I was into moon clip guns for a while. Had 8 of them at one time. I really like them. Much faster to reload then with a speedloader. As to clips bending. Ive never had that happen. Ive had speedloaders goof up though. It actually takes alot of abuse to bend a moon clip. You almost have to do it intentionally. Properly carried or even just in the pocket of your jacket its about impossible to bend one. If that really concerns you there are flexible plastic clips you can buy. What i liked about them most was i could take a moon clip gun to the range with 50 or so moon clips loaded. Shoot them and easily pick them up vs digging through the dirt picking up individual pieces of brass. Coolest one i had was a ruger 454 alaskan that was cut for moon clips. You could shoot 45acps with clips. Or you could shoot 45 colts or 454s with or without clips. I even showed up at a ppc match with it one day and shot a round with full power 454s. It was kind of comical. We started the round and after two shots everyone stopped shooting and stared. They ended up having me shoot it by myself because nobody could concentrate with that cannon going off on the line. I usually shot about a 295/300 average. That day with the 454 i shot a respectable 289 and easily got off all shots in the allotted time. We got a good laugh when at trophy presentation time they called me up and presented me with a baseball bat someone had in there car for a trophy.
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Re: Clips, Mags, and the 9mm Revolver
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2022, 01:42:01 PM »
Will a cast 38 work in a 9mm? I guess i can resize them in 9mm. I have cases of that stuff.
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Re: Clips, Mags, and the 9mm Revolver
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2022, 04:55:17 PM »
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Re: Clips, Mags, and the 9mm Revolver
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2022, 05:40:52 PM »
Will a cast 38 work in a 9mm? I guess i can resize them in 9mm. I have cases of that stuff.

That's a maybe. Prolly not unless you resize them. The 9mm like other such rimless pistol rounds headspace on the case mouth. Chances are a bullet at .357" or .358" isn't going to allow the round to chamber fully.

IF you resize them to .355" or maybe at .356" then they might chamber and fire but the nose shape might keep them from cycling properly. If they are round nose then prolly will function, if SWC then likely they won't. IF round nose flat tip likely they will. IF full wadcutter, forget it, ain't happening.

Also you need to consider the weight of them, 158 grains is a common weight for .38 special but is pretty darn heavy for 9mm and data to load them is gonna be hard to come by, that long bullet is gonna take up a lot of the limited case capacity and pressures will sky rocket.

If they are lighter then prolly can make them work if ya try hard enough.


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Re: Clips, Mags, and the 9mm Revolver
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2022, 10:20:52 PM »
like bill said its a big maybe. Dont expect some flat nosed bullets to feed in all guns but a round nose 38 sized right will feed just fine and some flat nosed bullets will to if the shoulder has enough slope. I have better luck shooting 9mm cast bullets in 38s then 38 bullets in 9s. Especially now that most use PC. Even a 9mm mold that casts a bit small for a 38 can be used unsized with a coating of pc increasing the size a bit or even two coats.
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