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Don't forget these RINOS in November 2022
« on: June 23, 2022, 09:38:58 PM »
The Republicans In Name Only who joined Democrats in voting for the "Bipartisan Safer Communities Act" bill (a feel good misnomer and RKBA Infringement) were:
Minority Leader Mitch McConnell
and Senators:
Lisa Murkowski, (R) Alaska
Todd Young, (R) Indiana
Joni Ernst, (R) Iowa
Bill Cassidy, (R) La.
Susan Collins, (R) Maine
Roy Blunt, (R) Missouri.
Richard Burr, (R) N.C.
Thom Tillis, (R) N.C.
Rob Portman, (R) Ohio
Pat Toomey, (R) Penn.
Lindsey Graham, (R) S.C.
John Cornyn, (R) Texas
Mitt Romney, (R) Utah
Shelley Moore Capito, (R) W.V.

Let's hope the voters remember these turn coats in November.

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Re: Don't forget these RINOS in November 2022
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2022, 12:52:24 AM »
To get elected they promise their constituents that they will vote what the people want.
They lied.
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Re: Don't forget these RINOS in November 2022
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2022, 01:07:35 AM »
  Sadly, many of them are leaving , so they will not have to answer to voters.

  Some of course, are no surprise.. Sad excuses like Collins, Toomey, Murkowski, Graham & Romney are inclined to roll over at a passing breeze..  They have a demonrat stench about them !
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Re: Don't forget these RINOS in November 2022
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2022, 04:39:33 AM »
  Sadly, many of them are leaving , so they will not have to answer to voters.

  Some of course, are no surprise.. Sad excuses like Collins, Toomey, Murkowski, Graham & Romney are inclined to roll over at a passing breeze..  They have a demonrat stench about them !

They have a Globalist stench about them. Leftists also believe in Globalism, just slightly different reasons. The problem with both parties today is, neither believe in their party platforms. The Republican party has a majority of Globalists (NWO) people leading it, and the Democrat party has a majority of Leftists  (Socialists) leading. True Liberalism and true Conservatism is almost a thing of the past.

 We get too hung up on party politics, We will vote for a stinking skunk before we vote outside the party. Voters from either party are guilty of this.
I have done it in the past. I voted twice for a stinking skunk. G W. Bush. A two faced liar of the worst kind. The Republican party tried to put other skunks in 2016 in office, but another Bush was laid waste by someone who believed in America first. Not a globalist. The very reason he was hated by his own party in DC.
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Re: Don't forget these RINOS in November 2022
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2022, 08:13:07 AM »
I'm going to withhold judgement until I actually see what's in it.  What I gathered was it's mostly about securing schools and dealing with mental health issues, which I think we've all said was what was needed.  Don't know about the rest.
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Re: Don't forget these RINOS in November 2022
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2022, 09:34:07 AM »
I'm going to withhold judgement until I actually see what's in it.  What I gathered was it's mostly about securing schools and dealing with mental health issues, which I think we've all said was what was needed.  Don't know about the rest.

Must have “gathered” that from watching msnbc... All you have to do is look at who supports this. All democrats and rino’s

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Re: Don't forget these RINOS in November 2022
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2022, 10:24:11 AM »
I'm going to withhold judgement until I actually see what's in it.  What I gathered was it's mostly about securing schools and dealing with mental health issues, which I think we've all said was what was needed.  Don't know about the rest.

Must have “gathered” that from watching msnbc... All you have to do is look at who supports this. All democrats and rino’s



Damn you are cynical.  Have you ever come to a conclusion without leaping?  I read a blurb on my phone.  I think it was the Wallstreet Journal.  In any event, if you KNOW what is in it, why don't you tell me.
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Re: Don't forget these RINOS in November 2022
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2022, 10:50:59 AM »
I'm going to withhold judgement until I actually see what's in it.  What I gathered was it's mostly about securing schools and dealing with mental health issues, which I think we've all said was what was needed.  Don't know about the rest.

Must have “gathered” that from watching msnbc... All you have to do is look at who supports this. All democrats and rino’s



Damn you are cynical.  Have you ever come to a conclusion without leaping?  I read a blurb on my phone.  I think it was the Wallstreet Journal.  In any event, if you KNOW what is in it, why don't you tell me.
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Re: Don't forget these RINOS in November 2022
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2022, 11:17:35 AM »
I'm going to withhold judgement until I actually see what's in it.  What I gathered was it's mostly about securing schools and dealing with mental health issues, which I think we've all said was what was needed.  Don't know about the rest.

Yeah their idea of dealing with mental health issues is writing red flag laws.  There is noting in the bill that will curb school shooting or gun crimes. Just like all the other gun laws written do nothing, except remove rights from law abiding citizens.
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2022, 11:26:30 AM »
I'm going to withhold judgement until I actually see what's in it.  What I gathered was it's mostly about securing schools and dealing with mental health issues, which I think we've all said was what was needed.  Don't know about the rest.

Yeah their idea of dealing with mental health issues is writing red flag laws.  There is noting in the bill that will curb school shooting or gun crimes. Just like all the other gun laws written do nothing, except remove rights from law abiding citizens.


So, you have read it?  Please post a copy.  I'd like to read it myself.
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Re: Don't forget these RINOS in November 2022
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2022, 01:44:30 PM »
I'm going to withhold judgement until I actually see what's in it.  What I gathered was it's mostly about securing schools and dealing with mental health issues, which I think we've all said was what was needed.  Don't know about the rest.

Yeah their idea of dealing with mental health issues is writing red flag laws.  There is noting in the bill that will curb school shooting or gun crimes. Just like all the other gun laws written do nothing, except remove rights from law abiding citizens.


So, you have read it?  Please post a copy.  I'd like to read it myself.
Can’t find it. Can you? How about you find and post it?

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Re: Don't forget these RINOS in November 2022
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2022, 01:47:12 PM »
I'm going to withhold judgement until I actually see what's in it.  What I gathered was it's mostly about securing schools and dealing with mental health issues, which I think we've all said was what was needed.  Don't know about the rest.

Yeah their idea of dealing with mental health issues is writing red flag laws.  There is noting in the bill that will curb school shooting or gun crimes. Just like all the other gun laws written do nothing, except remove rights from law abiding citizens.


So, you have read it?  Please post a copy.  I'd like to read it myself.

No I didn't read it, and I think you know I didn't.  Why don't you go and find a copy and read it if you want.  I find it hard to believe you know nothing about whats in the bill. Its been talked about by pro gun groups and people for the last 3 weeks. You either don't want to know, or don't care to know.  This quote from you sounds like it came from the leftist playbook.  "What I gathered was it's mostly about securing schools and dealing with mental health issues, which I think we've all said was what was needed".   It isn't about keeping guns away from anyone with mental issues. Its about taking guns away from law abiding citizens.  Courts or your pears won't get to decide if your crazy. Government will. the red flag laws will end due process. Government will not have to prove you did anything wrong. All they need is a complaint, and they can take your guns away, on the premise you are a danger. So thats how government will deal with mental health issues from this bill you seem to be all giddy about.
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Re: Don't forget these RINOS in November 2022
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2022, 04:11:15 PM »
I'm going to withhold judgement until I actually see what's in it.  What I gathered was it's mostly about securing schools and dealing with mental health issues, which I think we've all said was what was needed.  Don't know about the rest.

Yeah their idea of dealing with mental health issues is writing red flag laws.  There is noting in the bill that will curb school shooting or gun crimes. Just like all the other gun laws written do nothing, except remove rights from law abiding citizens.


So, you have read it?  Please post a copy.  I'd like to read it myself.

No I didn't read it, and I think you know I didn't.  Why don't you go and find a copy and read it if you want.  I find it hard to believe you know nothing about whats in the bill. Its been talked about by pro gun groups and people for the last 3 weeks. You either don't want to know, or don't care to know.  This quote from you sounds like it came from the leftist playbook.  "What I gathered was it's mostly about securing schools and dealing with mental health issues, which I think we've all said was what was needed".   It isn't about keeping guns away from anyone with mental issues. Its about taking guns away from law abiding citizens.  Courts or your pears won't get to decide if your crazy. Government will. the red flag laws will end due process. Government will not have to prove you did anything wrong. All they need is a complaint, and they can take your guns away, on the premise you are a danger. So thats how government will deal with mental health issues from this bill you seem to be all giddy about.


No, I have not read it.  And, I said as much.  But, I'm betting those people you speak of haven't either and are making the same assumptions as you.  I actually want to see what's in it before I start having a hissy fit.  If it is as you are guessing, I'll be just as much against it as anyone.  Plus, you don't seem to have any idea how red flag laws work.  They do have to go before a court or judge, who decides whether to issue it or not.  The "government" doesn't get to do that.  Now, I don't agree with red flag laws that allow that decision to be made without the accused's presence and chance to defend himself.  And, again I don't KNOW if this bill provides for that or not.  AND, neither do you.  And, please take this with all due respect.  Just because I don't start jumping up and down and having a hissy fit like you do anytime you PERCEIVE that something is not the way you want it does NOT mean I am "all giddy about" it.  Coming to that conclusion is just moronic.  With all due respect.
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Re: Don't forget these RINOS in November 2022
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2022, 04:13:41 PM »
I'm going to withhold judgement until I actually see what's in it.  What I gathered was it's mostly about securing schools and dealing with mental health issues, which I think we've all said was what was needed.  Don't know about the rest.

Yeah their idea of dealing with mental health issues is writing red flag laws.  There is noting in the bill that will curb school shooting or gun crimes. Just like all the other gun laws written do nothing, except remove rights from law abiding citizens.


So, you have read it?  Please post a copy.  I'd like to read it myself.
Can’t find it. Can you? How about you find and post it?


I'm not the one pretending to know what all is in it.  I just said I'm withholding judgement until I can ACTUALLY read it.  Seems like common sense to me.
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Re: Don't forget these RINOS in November 2022
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2022, 05:13:41 PM »
It's been passed in the senate and house both and sent to biden, I don't think anyone has read it yet. That alone, that it was rushed thru without giving folks in congress time to read it before voting on it by the dumocraps should tell you about all you need.

It's heavy on red flag money to states, heavy on shipping money to schools to do what no one believes will prevent deaths of students and heavy on restricting rights of under 21 year old adults.

That's as much as I've been able to glean from folks in congress who have actually had at least limited access to it and that is all even members of congress have had, very limited access before being forced to vote.

It's another of nasty nancy's "we gotta pass it to know what's in it" bills.


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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2022, 05:33:59 PM »
This is from today shortly before the house voted to pass it:

Members of the House will likely pass the Senate's bipartisan gun reform legislation, even though the legislation has not gone through an exhaustive process to iron out the issues that are causing violence across the nation, Rep. Claudia Tenney said on Newsmax on Friday.

"I'm going to vote against it," the New York Republican said on Newsmax's "Wake Up America." "It looks to me, even though I haven't seen any legislation, that it's another erosion of our fundamental right to bear arms."

Further, there has been no process to analyze the "mental health problems, the societal issues, or all the other problems that are causing the kind of violence that we're seeing," said Tenney. "The knee-jerk reaction to just blame the guns and come up with gun control is an unfortunate byproduct of this."

She added that it was "too bad" that Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas' writing on the court's ruling Thursday in the case involving a New York law requiring a concealed carry application to demonstrate a special need carrying a gun outside the home didn't come earlier.

The senators who voted for gun control Thursday, Tenney said, "didn't get to read his beautiful, clear message about why fundamental rights, like the right to keep and bear arms, must be preserved and shall not be infringed. It's a great decision and Justice [Samuel] Alito even refers in his concurrence to the fact that this gun law was in place, and it did not stop the Buffalo shooter."

Tenney said she doesn't know how many House Republicans will vote to pass the gun control legislation, except for maybe 35 people or so.

"Some of the Republicans have voted for some of these bills that have come down earlier this week and last week, but 175 members of the House joined me in my amicus brief that we sent to the U.S. Supreme Court last week supporting the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association, so those people are pro-Second Amendment," she commented.


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