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From a real Astronaut
« on: July 14, 2022, 10:30:21 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RkhZgRNC1k. 
Makes me want to trash some of my movies.
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Re: From a real Astronaut
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2022, 02:29:56 AM »
These revelations should not spoil your movies for you.  After all, you know they are science fiction to start with, right?

  I guess that is why I rarely dip into fiction, either in books or movies. I am continually analyzing and keeping in mind that "this is fiction".

  There are some exceptions..  For instance, with the fellow featured in the video.  He is very  learned and experienced, so things can be learned from him.  One can glean some "real time" information from him.

  If a movie has truly knowlegeable, experienced consultants and listens to them, they can make a good movie.

However, if it is just some Hollywood types dreaming up a story..forget it !
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Re: From a real Astronaut
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2022, 02:49:30 AM »
The thing is, if a person has good knowledge of the subject of the movie, you almost have to shut off that part of your brain in order to enjoy the movie.  I struggle with military movies, and shoot-em up scenes in other movies, and it all started with the movie Platoon.  I was enjoying it up until they had a scene shot from the front of an M-60 machine gun, my assigned weapon at the time.  You could clearly see the red dots in the blanks, it just ruined the rest of it for me.  They could have easily filmed it from the oblique, or at a live fire range with an unmanned camera and kept the scene, but no, they let it slide on through.  Many of these type of movies, and I am sure many other genres as well, hire experts to help with the realism, but some junk gets through, and now there is a whole sector of people looking for and exposing the flaws in many of the large blockbusters.
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Re: From a real Astronaut
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2022, 02:59:17 AM »
  I know exactly what you mean Omega, I probably over analyze too much to enjoy the show.

  ...But then again, Alec Baldwin may have tried to hard to create 'realism"..  ;)  :D
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Re: From a real Astronaut
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2022, 04:03:38 AM »
I saw a John Wayne movie that showed a jet streak in the sky behind him.  I think it was "The Cowboys".  Also the Hollywood view of an action hero shooting two guns in opposite directions and never missing.  Then, the bad guys could never hit the side of a barn. 
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Re: From a real Astronaut
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2022, 06:44:30 AM »
It’s was still interesting how that Astronaut went down a list of recent SciFi movies.  I only read about how bad AD Astra was horrible. And not worth the popcorn. I did like Passengers,Interstellar and Gravity.
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Re: From a real Astronaut
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2022, 12:53:26 PM »
My wife and I were watching gravity and I was laughing about the junk whizzing by at high speed anf ground control told the astronauts it would orbit and come by again at a certain time.  The junk was supposedly orbiting at a much higher speed.  If it had been it would have been in a much higher orbit, the only way it could have crossed their path was if it was slowing down from a higher orbit or have been dumped from a powered craft that had carried it from a lower orbit.
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Re: From a real Astronaut
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2022, 03:27:10 PM »
Quote from: ulav8r on July 15, 2022, 12:53:26 PM
My wife and I were watching gravity and I was laughing about the junk whizzing by at high speed anf ground control told the astronauts it would orbit and come by again at a certain time.  The junk was supposedly orbiting at a much higher speed.  If it had been it would have been in a much higher orbit, the only way it could have crossed their path was if it was slowing down from a higher orbit or have been dumped from a powered craft that had carried it from a lower orbit.

They were still using shuttles. They are gone and not coming back. Challenger and Columbia ended that. We sure are using Space X a lot. 
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Re: From a real Astronaut
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2022, 04:20:08 PM »
There's a good many that get
into the far out whacky stuff.
A friend really gets into the
far out science fiction, and  loaned
me a big stack of science fiction
books to read.
I really didn't enjoy any of them
at all because they were obviously
written by someone going for
volume and paychecks instead of
quality reading.
Way too far fetched scenarios like
space radiation turning astronauts
into shape shifting vampires and
interstellar werewolves, and
women scientists in space station
laboratories turning into green and
red glowing sex fiends and screwing
their male counterparts silly up
until they start glowing and kill
them, etc. etc.
Really far out mess
But that's his baby and doesn't
entertain me at all
The more absurd and far out
the better he likes it

Different strokes etc.
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Re: From a real Astronaut
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2022, 04:34:43 PM »
Quote from: Ranger99 on July 15, 2022, 04:20:08 PM
There's a good many that get
into the far out whacky stuff.
A friend really gets into the
far out science fiction, and  loaned
me a big stack of science fiction
books to read.
I really didn't enjoy any of them
at all because they were obviously
written by someone going for
volume and paychecks instead of
quality reading.
Way too far fetched scenarios like
space radiation turning astronauts
into shape shifting vampires and
interstellar werewolves, and
women scientists in space station
laboratories turning into green and
red glowing sex fiends and screwing
their male counterparts silly up
until they start glowing and kill
them, etc. etc.
Really far out mess
But that's his baby and doesn't
entertain me at all
The more absurd and far out
the better he likes it

Different strokes etc.

What the heck did you read, defiantly not my type of SciFi.  It sounds more like porn.   
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Re: From a real Astronaut
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2022, 04:42:26 PM »
Whatever paperback books they
were.  Half the people that write
paperback books these days I've
never heard of
Years ago, they would have paperback
editions of hardcover books, but
today many just write paperback junk
that wouldn't ever be suitable for printing
hardcover editions, kinda like some of
the junk movies that go straight to
video because they're too crappy to
release for the theaters
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Re: From a real Astronaut
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2022, 04:57:29 PM »
Quote from: Ranger99 on July 15, 2022, 04:42:26 PM
Whatever paperback books they
were.  Half the people that write
paperback books these days I've
never heard of
Years ago, they would have paperback
editions of hardcover books, but
today many just write paperback junk
that wouldn't ever be suitable for printing
hardcover editions, kinda like some of
the junk movies that go straight to
video because they're too crappy to
release for the theaters

I can think of a few of them. I don't even watch those. I’m picky about about my SciFi.  I just ordered the complete set of the Martian  Chronicles.  On a two disk DVD..like i did with Childhoods end.  That’s SciFi.
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Re: From a real Astronaut
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2022, 05:53:38 PM »
Martian Chronicles is a good
show. Of course, it was made
40-50 years ago before all the
CGI stuff and based off of a
quality book
I've always liked the alien speech
" Life is it's own answer.  . etc. "
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Re: From a real Astronaut
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2022, 06:04:57 PM »
Quote from: Ranger99 on July 15, 2022, 05:53:38 PM
Martian Chronicles is a good
show. Of course, it was made
40-50 years ago before all the
CGI stuff and based off of a
quality book
I've always liked the alien speech
" Life is it's own answer.  . etc. "

^^^^^This^^^^^
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Re: From a real Astronaut
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2022, 06:11:36 PM »
Poor old Darren Mcgavin watching
the earth burn up in a nuclear fire
is really pitiful even though the
effects were primitive. It's pretty sad
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Re: From a real Astronaut
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2022, 02:54:53 AM »
Why would anyone care what some astronaut's opinion of science fiction movies is? I could personally care less what their opinions on the subject are.
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Re: From a real Astronaut
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2022, 12:25:27 PM »
I’d rather listen to the Astronaut, hes been there , done that. Several times. And has been highly trained.
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Re: From a real Astronaut
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2022, 12:56:43 PM »
Quote from: Ranger99 on July 15, 2022, 04:42:26 PM
Whatever paperback books they
were.  Half the people that write
paperback books these days I've
never heard of
Years ago, they would have paperback
editions of hardcover books, but
today many just write paperback junk
that wouldn't ever be suitable for printing
hardcover editions, kinda like some of
the junk movies that go straight to
video because they're too crappy to
release for the theaters

Sunshine, it really sucked.
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