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Child labor
« on: July 24, 2022, 02:06:45 PM »
This should outrage everyone in this country, especially folks from Alabama.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egULQviBlhI
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Re: Child labor
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2022, 02:08:23 AM »
I read a bit on this. What I wondered,  did this company intentionally hire minors or did these minors have false documents?
99% of all Lawyers give the other 1% a bad name. What I find hilarious about this is they are such an arrogant bunch, that they all think they are in the 1%.

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Re: Child labor
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2022, 02:18:47 AM »
  Is it possible this 'subsidiary' company hired some illegal border jumpers who lied about their age.
  ..But illegals wouldn't lie, would they? :D  ;D

  I remain skeptical, since such child labor is forbidden throughout the US.. There must be more to the story..

  1) Being a "subsidiary" company, they must produce for other manufacturers, who are they?

  2) Is Hyundai or others, responsible for what other companies do?

  3) Is this a "trap" set by competition?

  If you scroll down under the video offered, you find some replies ..  this one seems to come from somebody
  Who is "in the know".
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  david beaumont
15 hours ago
So, Steve.
I work in a "METAL STAMPING PLANT"!
 Really. I see this often. Mostly young females,  occasionally a young male. They are always, at our plant anyway, Latin American. They are also always employed and verified by the staffing agency that provides them. I think the couple points that you struggled with can be explained mostly by the way they are surrounded and protected by the older more established agency employees. Many who seem to take them under their wing and kind of keep them from having difficult conversations with others. The other part, at least where I work, is that they usually don't speak English at all and they are very shy and another is usually speaking for them. I have more than once wondered and even questioned the age of some of these Temps, but no straight answer is available. Often we have what appears to be a complete family and they support each other in keeping their situation private.
 I think ultimately the agencies,  who are desperate for help, are the most responsible for vetting the workers eligibility since very often they have a very fluent Spanish speaking staff who should be able to spot the nuances of a child who is clearly not ready to work in a metal stamping plant!
 P.S. we do, at least, have an excellent safety record.

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   Before we start saying "filthy Alabama", perhaps we may look at ourselves..  Do I wear any of those Asian made "name brand" sneakers that are notoriously made by child labor?

  Far as I know, only New Balance brand sneakers are made in USA..

  Do other companies hire illegal aliens?  Do those companies check every employees qualifications, or do they expect the employment agency to do so?

  Sorry, but this looks like a "set up" by their competition.
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Re: Child labor
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2022, 02:34:08 AM »
I got my first job at age 16. I was in 12th grade. But daddy had me working around the place mowing grass, etc long before that.

16 was the legal age to get a job in Florida back then.
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Re: Child labor
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2022, 02:42:02 AM »
  When I was just a kid... I mean starting a 8-9 years of age, during summers I picked beans, potatoes etc, for local cash crop farmers.  At 8-9 years I wasn't very effective, and was accompanied by older siblings. By time I got to be a teenager, I was a more effective picker.

  Those farmers also had folks out from the city, and others up from places like Jamaica or Puerto Rico.  THey stayed in what we called "picker shacks", then at the end of summer..all went back home.

  ...That experience didn't hurt me a bit !  In fact, if more were doing the same, I suspect there would be less gangs running around the cities.  They would be tired enough once they arrive back in the evening..that they would be ready for supper and bed, rather than running around in gangs !
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Re: Child labor
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2022, 03:17:25 AM »
  When I was just a kid... I mean starting a 8-9 years of age, during summers I picked beans, potatoes etc, for local cash crop farmers.  At 8-9 years I wasn't very effective, and was accompanied by older siblings. By time I got to be a teenager, I was a more effective picker.

  Those farmers also had folks out from the city, and others up from places like Jamaica or Puerto Rico.  THey stayed in what we called "picker shacks", then at the end of summer..all went back home.

  ...That experience didn't hurt me a bit !  In fact, if more were doing the same, I suspect there would be less gangs running around the cities.  They would be tired enough once they arrive back in the evening..that they would be ready for supper and bed, rather than running around in gangs !
Yeah, I picked strawberries as a kid, and picked up chunks (where farmers were clearing new ground and dynamited stumps) which was a dusty back breaking job but it paid good for a kid in the 1950s.

  ...And good training too..right?
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Re: Child labor
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2022, 03:49:47 AM »
First job at 12 was being a caddy. $4 to carry a bag for 18 holes. Half that if they had a cart. When you turned 13 you were allowed to carry doubles. My best day was $24. Big money!

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Re: Child labor
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2022, 12:48:57 PM »
Just don't see the problem with it as long as they are being paid appropriately for their efforts. I sure worked my butt off as a boy and didn't even get paid for most of it. Sorry don't look here for sympathy for them working and early a wage.


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Re: Child labor
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2022, 02:23:32 PM »
Just don't see the problem with it as long as they are being paid appropriately for their efforts. I sure worked my butt off as a boy and didn't even get paid for most of it. Sorry don't look here for sympathy for them working and early a wage.

I started hauling hay, and working at my grandpas' gas station when i was  about 12. I also had to mow the lawn, take out the trash ect.

Guess by some folks standards I'd a been better off playing video games and sittin on my ass. Except they didn't have video games back then.
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Re: Child labor
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2022, 03:15:01 PM »
We did. A lot of work that was dangerous growing up. I rode in the back of a pickup truck. Drank out of a hose. Mowed lawns. Helped my dad in his construction business. We had no tv until I was 12 years old. So I played in the swamp. At supper time my mother stepped out on the back pourch and blew the cow horn that we used to call the dogs to tell me to come home for supper.

Point is if kids were made to work and respect their elders and the police and to obey the law we would not be in the liberal mess were in.
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Re: Child labor
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2022, 03:26:40 PM »
We did. A lot of work that was dangerous growing up. I rode in the back of a pickup truck. Drank out of a hose. Mowed lawns. Helped my dad in his construction business. We had no tv until I was 12 years old. So I played in the swamp. At supper time my mother stepped out on the back pourch and blew the cow horn that we used to call the dogs to tell me to come home for supper.

Point is if kids were made to work and respect their elders and the police and to obey the law we would not be in the liberal mess were in.

Now that is a worthwhile point. My sister in law loaned me her son to help me do a small tear off and reroof then asked me how he did. I told her the truth. Worthless as tits on a hog...

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Re: Child labor
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2022, 05:08:48 PM »
The point here is, they are violating both Alabama and federal law by hiring kids under 18 for a stamp mill.
They are known to easily amputate fingers, hands, and arms.

Your yankee upbringing is showing again Bug. All us southerners worked as kids and it sure didn't hurt us. All the stamp presses these days have safety measures in place to avoid chopping off a finger.


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Re: Child labor
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2022, 02:03:13 AM »
  Part of the concern is about the children if young enough, are missing school.

  ..But of course, if they are illegals, they shouldn't be here in the first place..

      Then too, some of  these illegal alien kids don't need the sex education some schools are so vigorously
   pushing, since it appears many of them were given just such an "education" on the way here.

  They can thank the Demonrats for that too !
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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2022, 04:36:33 AM »
And yet, after 52+ years of living in Georgia, Georgiians still refer to him as "a damn yankee".  ;D Hmmmmm,
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2022, 09:06:38 AM »
And yet, after 52+ years of living in Georgia, Georgiians still refer to him as "a damn yankee".  ;D Hmmmmm,
I wonder why. ::)

We don't wonder, we know.


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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2022, 10:50:53 AM »
And yet, after 52+ years of living in Georgia, Georgiians still refer to him as "a damn yankee".  ;D Hmmmmm,
I wonder why. ::)

We don't wonder, we know.

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Re: Child labor
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2022, 01:18:29 PM »
Nice CHRISTian attitude there bug. I knew the real you would come out eventually.


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Re: Child labor
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2022, 01:41:36 PM »
Nice CHRISTian attitude there bug. I knew the real you would come out eventually.
This CHRISTIAN does not condone breaking the law as some southerners seem to do.

The Bible says, render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and to GOD which is GOD's.
Meaning, if it doesn't interfere with GOD's laws, we should obey them.

LOL, The Bible ALSO SAYS Teach a child the right way he should go, and when he's old, he'll not depart from it. Proverbs 22-6

The Bible also says if you don't work, neither should you eat.Acts 13-41

I'll take God's law over any yankee law that interferes with child rearing.
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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2022, 02:00:00 PM »
Hmmm, is all southerners a--holes??

Probably not, there's just some that can't get over getting their butts whipped by the better army. :)

But most southerners are part yankee, the yankee army came down here, whipped your butts, raped all the women and girls who became pregnant by those yankees, so y'all are kin to northerners. ;D

Edited to add:  I started this thread because of people breaking the law and exploiting kids.
Are those two things okay down here??

Raped the women and"girls". Well Bill,  thats pretty accurate description of a "damn yankee"Yankee, wouldn't you agree?

And the South has put up with loud "know-it-all carpet baggers" ever since.  ;)
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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2022, 04:23:01 PM »
We are to obey Caesar's law unless it interferes with GOD's laws.

But apparently some here disregard the law if the subject is brought up by a northerner.

Looks like a former cop would be FOR law and order, if he's really a former cop.

Do cops pick and choose which laws to enforce??

Well, I'm certainly not as "Hole-E" as you. Get it? Hole-E? You wanna qoute scripture,  and discuss Gods law, I can show you how little you know in about 5 minutes.
People like you, that sling out of context scripture around, and talk about folks needin to go to Hell (which you constantly do), typically are a mile wide and an inch deep, so you ain't impressin anybody here.;)

So I guess you'll just have to wonder about me, but we don't about  you. You couldn't hack it in the Air Force, and they kicked your useless yankee ass out, and yet your always talking about a fight. Which is purty much all you've ever done.

Like your plagiarism though. "Give me liberty, cause I can't take it". Waaaaahaha! ;D

Nobody regarding this topic seems to see it the way you do, and have said so. Does that not tell you anything? Likely not. Then you call Bill and myself assholes. I'm sure Bill is just as offended as I'm "not".

The old saying is: A yankee always has to have the last word. And its usually a 4 letter one, or close.

Bless your heart.

And pray for Georgia that it won't last much longer.  8)

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« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2022, 06:22:15 PM »
My Daddy always told me if you find yourself in a hole you dug, the best  thing is to stop digging……

somehow Bug you just won’t stop digging.
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Re: Child labor
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2022, 02:18:06 AM »
Steven Wayne Lehto, the maker of this video, is an ambulance chasin lawyer that has made his living sueing companies, and catering to bleeding heart liberalism.

He is "a typical northern liberal" from Eau Claire,  Michigan trying to  find ANY trash he can concerning businesses in the United States.

As boring as this video was I watched it. The underage employees were family members of several employees,  AND were actually hired through a TEMPORARY EMPLOYMENT AGENCY.

Also the only three "CHILDREN"  ;), he used for example were Guatemalan illegals. Imagine that, from a lawyer.
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Re: Child labor
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2022, 04:09:32 AM »
Peace...  How about everybody stop digging?

  Let's concentrate our energies to stop those who would ruin our country..and we aall know who they are.
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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2022, 04:17:16 AM »
Peace...  How about everybody stop digging?

  Let's concentrate our energies to stop those who would ruin our country..and we aall know who they are.

Why? Because it’s your buddy getting his ass handed to him this time of course which he deserves... I am tired of his onslaught of emotion based drivel, he sounds like the leftists I know.
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Re: Child labor
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2022, 05:15:34 AM »
Peace...  How about everybody stop digging?

  Let's concentrate our energies to stop those who would ruin our country..and we aall know who they are.

Why? Because it’s your buddy getting his ass handed to him this time of course which he deserves... I am tired of his onslaught of emotion based drivel, he sounds like the leftists I know.
Oh, you condone law breaking too??
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Re: Child labor
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2022, 08:45:14 AM »
Peace...  How about everybody stop digging?

  Let's concentrate our energies to stop those who would ruin our country..and we aall know who they are.

Why? Because it’s your buddy getting his ass handed to him this time of course which he deserves... I am tired of his onslaught of emotion based drivel, he sounds like the leftists I know.

If you haven't already, watch the video. The guy is an ambulance chasing lawyer. Only a fool would buy into his crap.
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« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2022, 08:58:45 AM »
Peace...  How about everybody stop digging?

  Let's concentrate our energies to stop those who would ruin our country..and we aall know who they are.

Why? Because it’s your buddy getting his ass handed to him this time of course which he deserves... I am tired of his onslaught of emotion based drivel, he sounds like the leftists I know.
Oh, you condone law breaking too??
Ya mean like gorge floyd did when he ingested enough fentanyl to kill a horse or the time he stuck a pistol in a pregnant woman’s belly in I believe a robbery. Real humanitarian that useless thug. Another of your emotional leftist righteous causes...

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« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2022, 03:29:44 PM »
Peace...  How about everybody stop digging?

  Let's concentrate our energies to stop those who would ruin our country..and we aall know who they are.

Why? Because it’s your buddy getting his ass handed to him this time of course which he deserves... I am tired of his onslaught of emotion based drivel, he sounds like the leftists I know.
Oh, you condone law breaking too??
Ya mean like gorge floyd did when he ingested enough fentanyl to kill a horse or the time he stuck a pistol in a pregnant woman’s belly in I believe a robbery. Real humanitarian that useless thug. Another of your emotional leftist righteous causes...
I don't like to see anyone killed while there's a chance that his soul could be saved.
But that chance was taken from him by Chauvin who defied another cop, a MMA expert, and two medical personnel who told him repeatedly that he was killing Floyd.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/21/fact-check-george-floyd-autopsy-ruled-his-death-homicide/7317557002/
Righteous causes??   I would say that it's righteous to want a persons soul to be saved.
Don't you want people to be saved??
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« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2022, 04:01:59 PM »
 :'(This horse has been in the barn for quite a while. EVERYBODY KNOWS George Floyd was a dead man walking, and that he had taken a FATAL OVERDOSE of fentanyl, plus had marijuana, cocaine, and methamphetamine in his system.
EVERYBODY that looked at the toxicology KNOWS he died of a FENTANYL OVERDOSE, and that FACT was on the news for weeks. The cops were sacrifices for the rioters.

He would have died in his recliner at home.  ::)
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« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2022, 04:12:38 PM »
Peace...  How about everybody stop digging?

  Let's concentrate our energies to stop those who would ruin our country..and we aall know who they are.

Why? Because it’s your buddy getting his ass handed to him this time of course which he deserves... I am tired of his onslaught of emotion based drivel, he sounds like the leftists I know.
Oh, you condone law breaking too??
Ya mean like gorge floyd did when he ingested enough fentanyl to kill a horse or the time he stuck a pistol in a pregnant woman’s belly in I believe a robbery. Real humanitarian that useless thug. Another of your emotional leftist righteous causes...
I don't like to see anyone killed while there's a chance that his soul could be saved.
But that chance was taken from him by Chauvin who defied another cop, a MMA expert, and two medical personnel who told him repeatedly that he was killing Floyd.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/21/fact-check-george-floyd-autopsy-ruled-his-death-homicide/7317557002/
Righteous causes??   I would say that it's righteous to want a persons soul to be saved.
Don't you want people to be saved??

If you really believe that, WHY do you continually RANT about people deserving to go to Hell?   ::)
You may all go to hell, I will go to Texas. Davy Crockett