Northern Cities Whinin Over Texas Sendin Illegals To Their Cities!

[Casull]

so then with that train of thought all thats need is biden to given them blanket citizenship or green cards and there is no longer a problem?? Fact is there are illegals in Nyc. Fact is the ones that have green cards or became citizens didnt show up here with a written invitation. We need laws that stop people from coming into this country on all our borders not just the southern border. Like i said im not so stupid as to not see the biggest problem today is the southern border but slamming it shut and leaving other places for them to come in isnt going to stop the problem it will just slow it down. I know if I was putin and wanted spys or terrorists in this country i sure wouldnt push them across the mexican border thats the center of attention today. Id put a suit and tie on them and fly them right into jfk or better yet some smaller northern airport.  I live in a VERY rural area. Town is a tourist trap though. Go through it today and i can guarantee you that you will see at least a dozen women with there towel head vails on walking through town. Michigan becomming THE place for muslims to come. Deerborn in particular. Makes you wonder who sent them and what there up too. A bit more dangerous then some stupid dirt poor mexican. But all that said i dont think id trade you for the bs going on at the border today. Seems in both cases though our government is turning a blind eye to it all.

Seems like alot of people have the erroneous notion that Northeast cities don't have many immigrants, and that the immigrant problem is mostly a Southwest issue. Having lived around the NYC area for several years I can tell you just about every other person you see in NYC was born in a foreign country......about the same in the Long Island counties. I know that's the case in Providence and Boston area, too.

Over 37 percent of New York City residents were born in another country, according to a new report, the highest percentage in over 100 years. A record high 3.07 million foreign-born immigrants live in New York City, more than any other city in the world.Dec 19, 2013 Huffington Post.

And more than the entire population of Chicago.
So this is a nationwide issue created by both parties pandering, and ignoring immigration regulations. And the Globalist want a One Brown World......and a reduced population by 90%. They certainly don't care about you.
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All you mention is people born in a foreign country.  But, are they here ILLEGALLY?  If not, then they are US citizens or otherwise have the legal paperwork to be here.  If so, then you have NO problem.

Lloyd, I in no manner support amnesty or illegals.  All I was talking about was TM7's rant about the "foreign" born.  IF they came here legally and became citizens, or IF they came here legally to work with a green card, then I have no problem with them.  They are NOT illegals.

[Lloyd Smale]

I honestly think were to a  point in this crazy world that for security we should stop all green cards. There may have been a time in history where we needed immigrants like up here in the `1800s to work the mines ect. But today we dont need more people that for the most part either take welfare or take jobs Americans could do and even get preferential treatment when hiring. Im tired of paying my taxes to support people that dont benefit us. We have enough of that bs in our welfare system from born Americans. Same with health. Its no wonder its so expensive for you and I when they give it free to millions and someone has to pay those doctors. Problem we have now is even if they made a policy like that and made it so illegals got punished. We still pay to find them and send them back or we pay to house them in jails. Biden has let a crap storm of them into this country. So many that i dont think we could ever get rid of them. No doubt a planned thing. Towel heads i deerborn are going to be even tougher to get rid of. There more educated, have money and even have there own political strength in office now. I dont think anything short of a nuke stops that About the best case sernerio now is to stop more imigrants from comming in, stop handing out greencards!! I think were sadly  screwed for the ones already here

[Casull]

Don't really disagree with either of you.  However, we are a country of laws and it makes a big difference if they are here legally or illegally.  But, I agree that we are getting full and should just stop the immigration, or at least cut way back on it.

[Casull]

There's alot of things called legal, that are just plain not good for anyone.
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Agreed.

[ironglow]

Not to say that there aren't "yankees" concerned about our border problem but not enough of them are at this point. Give them a good dose of wetbacks and maybe enough will wake up to get something done, like maybe voting for a someone that is concerned rather than the same do nothing professional politicans that only concerned with staying in office to line their pockets more. Really we are just preaching to the choir here as most all agree about the problem.

  OK, so we have clearly  understood the problem and commiserated with our southern brothers.  We also vote as much as possible for patriotic, conservative, American candidates..  Now please tell us what more we should do..

  What are we not doing about the problem, that you folks are doing?  Please list below..

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[oldandslow2]

IG, it isn't what you are doing that is the problem. I understand that "some" northern dwellers like you and Lloyd to only name two understand what this invasion, and that is what it is, is doing to our country. What I am hoping is that enough norther dwellers that have not been concerned will wake up and understand the problem when it appears right in their face and change their attitude instead of passing it off as "it's a border state problem, let them deal with it". It is the whole country's problem and the sooner people wake up to that fact maybe the quicker the demand to take care of it will grow big enough that something will finally get done. The country already has more people that live off the taxpayers than it can support.

I think every time I go to town anymore that I am in Old instead of New Mexico because Spanish is 90% of what I hear spoken and our little idiot in Santa Fe says we have no problem. They probably don't because they are all down here.

[Dee]

While our "northern brothers"    were railing about Pootun CROSSING THE UKRAINIAN BORDER, AND INVADING THE UKRAINE, and how unjust and despicable it was, we in Texas were pointing out that thousands of border jumpers were invading Texas. Not many here showed much interest (including ironglow), the defender of Ukraine, posted dozens of arguments on why the United States should defend the Ukraine.

But he had little to say about Texas, and our Southern Border invasion. But alas, now New York City, and and New York state are receiving courtesy shipments of border jumpers, and now good ole ironglow wants to promote "himself" as the voice of reason. We're all in this together he says.

No we're not all in this together. You don't have a clue what its been like down here, and didn't care until we started shipping'em up there.

Pathetic! Enjoy your border jumpers ironglow. No need to thank us. We're happy to ship'em up there. With any luck you'll have a border jumper on every corner in your little "northern hamlet".

[Lloyd Smale]

Dee im afraid its mostly a waste of time. Sending mexicans and south americans to NY or MI where its below zero in the winter?? First winter there heading back south. Guaranteed. Its one of the head scratchers with the towel heads in michigan. Why did they take over deerborn? Whats there? Who told them to settle there and why? They sure arent there for the scenery or beautiful weather. That little community should make everyone nervous and its not even talked about. If you do your racist. It isnt the fault of the south there here. Just like your invasion isnt the fault of the north. Its the fault of this socialist government that sees them as future votes. Sad thing is theres even a majority of democrats in this state that wont open there eyes and even in texas there are A LOT of democrats still democrats after seeing this mess. Thats what i dont understand.

I think its fair they get spread around equally among the states. but that said it makes me nervous that the government is helping the criminals disappear into our society. Shipped across the county and forgotten before there even exposed. Think about it. If i am a criminal and i get across that border im the first one thats going to volunteer to hop on a bus or plane that gets me as far away from the border as i can get. I think this actually plays into bidens plan and its why he hasnt even tried to stop it. If there not there to get caught they dont exist. There not added to the number or criminals that are caught. Shipping them around isnt curing it. Only stopping it cold will cure it. If there was a cure other then a move by the federal government to shut it down i think the texans would have put it into play already.

 Whole thing makes me wonder if the liberals didnt crash the economy on purpose and let biden knowingly sacrifice himself and be the fall guy. The border was a mess. Then afaganistan. They had to make people not to be concerned about them so crash the economy. It not only deflects from those problems but it falls right into the socialist agenda by making people more dependent on the government. We bought it hook line and sinker. Running to the bank to cash those checks that brought us even more inflation. I have wonder if he isnt working with china and sweeping the front porch for them to come on in. Maybe following a step by step plan handed to him by china. What were hunter and joe really doing in china?

No doubt theres people from then north that dont care as much as they should. But theres people from FL LA OK SC GE AL and other southern states that are no different because there not walking through there yards. Problem is what do we do? Tell us the cure. Only thing i see that will work is elections. Even your own governor cant stop those socialists without voting them out. You know come election time my vote will be on your side. Probably iron glows too and everyone on here except for guzzi.

[ironglow]

While our "northern brothers"    were railing about Pootun CROSSING THE UKRAINIAN BORDER, AND INVADING THE UKRAINE, and how unjust and despicable it was, we in Texas were pointing out that thousands of border jumpers were invading Texas. Not many here showed much interest (including ironglow), the defender of Ukraine, posted dozens of arguments on why the United States should defend the Ukraine.

But he had little to say about Texas, and our Southern Border invasion. But alas, now New York City, and and New York state are receiving courtesy shipments of border jumpers, and now good ole ironglow wants to promote "himself" as the voice of reason. We're all in this together he says.

No we're not all in this together. You don't have a clue what its been like down here, and didn't care until we started shipping'em up there.

Pathetic! Enjoy your border jumpers ironglow. No need to thank us. We're happy to ship'em up there. With any luck you'll have a border jumper on every corner in your little "northern hamlet".

  Unfair!  I have in during this whole border invasion, spoke of the injustice of it all.  If you look back into past posts on GBO, you will find that to be true.  Surely I do not recall ANYONE here making light of the border situation !

  Sure, I believe the invasion by Russia of the Ukraine, is unwarranted, unjust and indecent...same as I believe
  the Biden sponsored invasion of our southern border is unwarrented, unjust and indecent. 
 
    Heaven forbid that we should become a people who can consider only one injustice at a time !

  Now, perhaps you can tell us what more we can do about it..list below.

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   What more have you done about it, than we have; .. please list below:

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  Now perhaps, you can see that we are ALL in a sad situation, and the ballot box is our only present hope for  relief..

[Dee]

Actually it was the Northeastern cities and SoCal that first experienced the mass migration waves decades ago. In those early years there was plenty of people who protested and questioned the wisdom of mass migration. In NY harbour they even erected a national monument welcoming the teeming masses. The 'grooming' of indigenous Americans to accept mass migration has been ongoing ever since.

When NYC, Boston, Providence and SoCal was being invaded we didn't hear much from Southerners about the foreign invasion sponsored by our very own government.

Now that the foreign invasion has shifted in mass to the Tex-Mex border we're all suppose to do something. Ok.....just tell us what you want us to do. IG has asked twice what you're doing about the problem, and what you want us up country to do. Just crickets!.  Voting doesn't work...the swamp does what it wants.

Abbott or others shipping migrants around the country just compounds the problem and ultimately helps the Demonazi Party further groom the country into their 3rd world dystopia.

Why doesn't Texas just take control of their own borders and shut off the flow of migrants.? Why doesn't the Texas AG go after those sponsoring the breaking of US and Texas laws, like Soros, and prosecute them and sue for damages?

Well TM, there has never been in our history, the number of illegals crossing our borders as there is now, so right off the bat, that part of your statement isn't factual.

As to what our Governor is doing, and trying to do, you should jump in and  do more research, as you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

An example is my thread of July 7 which is about the DOJ accusations of Texas violating Mexican Civil rights.

[Dee]

Millions upon millions of immigrants arrived in NYC during the the great shipping era.Today millions fly in to the 5 or 6 area airports.

"As to what our Governor is doing, and trying to do, you should jump in and  do more research, as you obviously don't know what you're talking about"
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I'm doing my research here. Since you always know what you're talking about and reside in Texas and are involved with the problem, why don't you pleasantly inform us what you and Abbott are doing to solve the migration problem _ _ without being triggered into pizzing contest.
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I've been posting what's been happening down here on the border for months, while you were railing about Russia and the Ukraine, in which all sources other than your own were wrong. 

[Ranger99]

This state could handle the border
problem were it allowed to do so.
They did it in Bill Jordan's day and
in Charles Askins day.
Many would not like what it would
take to handle it.
If the citizenry were allowed to
take an active role in border security,
the problem would be greatly diminished

[Dee]

"I've been posting what's been happening down here on the border for months, while you were railing about Russia and the Ukraine, in which all sources other than your own were wrong.  "

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Oh-oh.   Triggered. Dee's nasty alternate ego is coming out.

So, if you've been obsessively posting on border issues for months (mostly whining about it as I recall); then it should be easy to post what you and Abbott have done to solve your immigration problem, besides shipping the problem to other states. Here just tell us -->

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LMAO! Ego? That's a good one comin from the Russian borders expert.

You and ironglow should combine your what to do list. Together you might make it to ten.

[Lloyd Smale]

you have to take into account that hes living it. Not just something wrote in the history book but in his back yard today. What is he doing about it personaly. Probably nothing because theres nothing he can do other them complain. It isnt a whole lot different for Abbott. Imigration is a federally controlled thing. Not a state controlled. Is that right? NOPE but its a fact of life. What can we do about it? The same thing he can VOTE. What is he doing to help? Hes (censored word) posting about every day so people who dont have them in there back yards dont forget and dont forget that the only differnce between him and us is it is in his back yard. Its a problem WE ALL HAVE AND IT EFFECTS YOU EVERY DAY. Who do you think is paying for all of this. How many millions or billions of tax dollars have been spent just to fly these people around. Air lines arent giving free tickets out. How many millions of dollars to feed them shelter them clothe them school them. How much money are we wasting on border patrol and police that are overwhelmed. All that money could be used to build our military up so were not lame sitting ducks for china and russia to come shoot!! Thats the only argument i have with him. This is not just a texas or Az problem. It effects all of us. Id say before he singles out people from the north for not caring he should be shouting at the doors of the idiots in his home town that voted democrat because there is NO DOUBT some of them. If not a trip to dallas or any big city there would give him plenty to yell at. I know im not his enemy. I sure dont disagree with him of the core problem. Do i get as personaly invested in this? Nope probably not but i would have to bet if the problem was here on the canadian border and my back yard he would care but not be near as conserned as he is now. 

"I've been posting what's been happening down here on the border for months, while you were railing about Russia and the Ukraine, in which all sources other than your own were wrong.  "

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Oh-oh.   Triggered. Dee's nasty alternate ego is coming out.

So, if you've been obsessively posting on border issues for months (mostly whining about it as I recall); then it should be easy to post what you and Abbott have done to solve your immigration problem, besides shipping the problem to other states. Here just tell us -->

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[DDZ]

Some bus loads need to be sent to Martha Vineyards also. So the Obamas can experience what they have been wanting. They can send a bunch to Rehoboth beach in Delaware too, where Dementia Joe spends most of his time. then why not a bunch to Philly, and Chicago? the illegals would fit right into those two cesspools.

[oldandslow2]

IG, I posted a reply to your questions when you quoted my post. Evidently I didn't hit the post button because it isn't here. Just read Lloyd's post right above this one. He gets the problem and there is no need for me to repeat what he said. You would understand if every time you went to town you felt like you were in Old instead of New Mexico. About 85 or 90% of the language I hear is Spanish, toddlers to geezers.

[Casull]

Millions upon millions of immigrants arrived in NYC during the the great shipping era.Today millions fly in to the 5 or 6 area airports.

"As to what our Governor is doing, and trying to do, you should jump in and  do more research, as you obviously don't know what you're talking about"
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I'm doing my research here. Since you always know what you're talking about and reside in Texas and are involved with the problem, why don't you pleasantly inform us what you and Abbott are doing to solve the migration problem _ _ without being triggered into pizzing contest.
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What's Abbott doing?  He's making it a front page issue.  He's making Texas' problem a DC problem.  And, if I'm not mistaken, his AG sued the feds over immigration policy.  Sounds like he's keeping busy.

[Dee]

Millions upon millions of immigrants arrived in NYC during the the great shipping era.Today millions fly in to the 5 or 6 area airports.

"As to what our Governor is doing, and trying to do, you should jump in and  do more research, as you obviously don't know what you're talking about"
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I'm doing my research here. Since you always know what you're talking about and reside in Texas and are involved with the problem, why don't you pleasantly inform us what you and Abbott are doing to solve the migration problem _ _ without being triggered into pizzing contest.
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What's Abbott doing?  He's making it a front page issue.  He's making Texas' problem a DC problem.  And, if I'm not mistaken, his AG sued the feds over immigration policy.  Sounds like he's keeping busy.

True, some folks have been paying attention, and some haven't.

[Lloyd Smale]

hes doing all he can and more then about any other governor but its sadly not going to change much. Only change comes if we get the right people in the white house. If he really wants to fix this run for president. Hed get my vote. But to do that hed be risking leaving texas to someone not as dedicated as he is.

[ironglow]

FromDee..
   " LMAO! Ego? That's a good one comin from the Russian borders expert.

You and ironglow should combine your what to do list. Together you might make it to ten."
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  We are still patiently waiting for you to-do list! 

Remember please, YOU are the one who ACCUSED US of not doing enough !
 
  So naturally, we furnished a complete, numbered opportunity for you to tell us how we are failing.

  Then if you so  desire, you can put us to shame by listing the various things YOU are personally doing, that WE are not doing...

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[Dee]

FromDee..
   " LMAO! Ego? That's a good one comin from the Russian borders expert.

You and ironglow should combine your what to do list. Together you might make it to ten."
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  We are still patiently waiting for you to-do list! 

Remember please, YOU are the one who ACCUSED US of not doing enough !
 
  So naturally, we furnished a complete, numbered opportunity for you to tell us how we are failing.

  Then if you so  desire, you can put us to shame by listing the various things YOU are personally doing, that WE are not doing...

  1)

 2)

 3)

I didn't accuse you of anything other than continually trying to play the wise old owl.

And what's this "we" stuff? "We" ain't waitin on anything. Everyone here except "you " pretty much agrees with Governor Abbott and myself. 

Enjoy your border jumpers, there's more coming your way. In fact another load arrived this morning. 

[ironglow]

From Dee;
    " I didn't accuse you of anything other than continually trying to play the wise old owl.
   
   I'd much rather be wise than otherwise..

  And what's this "we" stuff? "We" ain't waitin on anything. Everyone here except "you " pretty much agrees with Governor Abbott and myself. 

  "We" are those ugly, despicable "northerners" you are continually disparaging
    That conflict that started in 1861, was more than one and a half centuries ago, get over it !

   ... And BTW, I also tend to agree with the governor.  If you don't think so..just go ahead a cut/paste any
  statement I said to the contrary.

  Enjoy your border jumpers, there's more coming your way. In fact another load arrived this
  morning."

  Let them come..and let the lefty cities welcome them with open arms!  ...But, let's not help the
   lefties to divide us, north, south, east or west..let's keep it the UNITED States !

[Dee]

From Dee;
    " I didn't accuse you of anything other than continually trying to play the wise old owl.
   
   I'd much rather be wise than otherwise..
And what's this "we" stuff? "We" ain't waitin on anything. Everyone here except "you " pretty much agrees with Governor Abbott and myself. 

  "We" are those ugly, despicable "northerners" you are continually disparaging
    That conflict that started in 1861, was more than one and a half centuries ago, get over it !

Enjoy your border jumpers, there's more coming your way. In fact another load arrived this morning."

  Let them come..and let the lefty cities welcome them with open arms...

Ah, we got the red ink out. It's gettin serious now.

You can harp on that civil war BS all you want, it doesn't fit in this topic, but when you ain't got nuthin else I guess you go with what you got. Whichis nuthin.

I'll talk to Governor Abbott and see if he can send you some  border jumpers from "northern" Columbia. Maybe some Cartel members fr "northern Mexico. More on the way.😉

[ironglow]

From Dee;
    " I didn't accuse you of anything other than continually trying to play the wise old owl.
   
   I'd much rather be wise than otherwise..
And what's this "we" stuff? "We" ain't waitin on anything. Everyone here except "you " pretty much agrees with Governor Abbott and myself. 

  "We" are those ugly, despicable "northerners" you are continually disparaging
    That conflict that started in 1861, was more than one and a half centuries ago, get over it !

Enjoy your border jumpers, there's more coming your way. In fact another load arrived this morning."

  Let them come..and let the lefty cities welcome them with open arms...

Ah, we got the red ink out. It's gettin serious now.

You can harp on that civil war BS all you want, it doesn't fit in this topic, but when you ain't got nuthin else I guess you go with what you got. Whichis nuthin.

I'll talk to Governor Abbott and see if he can send you some  border jumpers from "northern" Columbia. Maybe
some Cartel members fr "northern Mexico. More on the way.😉

      Have you forgotten your meds again ?

[Dee]

From Dee;
    " I didn't accuse you of anything other than continually trying to play the wise old owl.
   
   I'd much rather be wise than otherwise..
And what's this "we" stuff? "We" ain't waitin on anything. Everyone here except "you " pretty much agrees with Governor Abbott and myself. 

  "We" are those ugly, despicable "northerners" you are continually disparaging
    That conflict that started in 1861, was more than one and a half centuries ago, get over it !

Enjoy your border jumpers, there's more coming your way. In fact another load arrived this morning."

  Let them come..and let the lefty cities welcome them with open arms...

Ah, we got the red ink out. It's gettin serious now.

You can harp on that civil war BS all you want, it doesn't fit in this topic, but when you ain't got nuthin else I guess you go with what you got. Whichis nuthin.

I'll talk to Governor Abbott and see if he can send you some  border jumpers from "northern" Columbia. Maybe
some Cartel members fr "northern Mexico. More on the way.😉

      Have you forgotten your meds again ?

Waaaahahaha! "Forgotten my meds again", Waaaaahahah! Thats a good'un! Waaaaahahah! Your so witty, how do you think of that stuff? Waaaaahaha!

You Yankees quack me up! Get it? "Quack" me up?